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Old 14-11-2005, 08:35
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'I made the wrong decision. If I'd have had five minutes more to think about it, I would have sent The Conway Sisters home.

'I acted out of loyalty, but this show is about talent. Maria should have stayed. The Conways don't have a chance of winning this competition'
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Old 14-11-2005, 08:45
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but they DO have a chance now don't they Simon?

I won't be watching the XFac again - it was an outrage on Saturday - those unattractive old, caterwauling bints against Maria yes.... wasn't it a hard decision .

At this rate Brenda will be voted out next week and do you know who will win?.......CHICO!!!!!!

Was I angry? - just a bit - Louis is a sad old lonely man and Simon - well words fail me. I was very glad to see Simon's sheepish look after he voted Maria off.

If she had been single and he would have had the chance of a shag he would have kept her in
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Old 14-11-2005, 08:46
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I think the Conways bullied Simon into voting out Maria with their 'Death Stares'
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Old 14-11-2005, 08:51
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Are they still there then?
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Old 14-11-2005, 08:54
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Yes he should have voted them out. The conways are utter rubbish
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Old 14-11-2005, 08:56
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Originally Posted by scaryspice
I think the Conways bullied Simon into voting out Maria with their 'Death Stares'
Never underestimate the power of four Irish troubadours....


...Simon never stood a chance!
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:11
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Originally Posted by ShowbizGosQueen
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'I made the wrong decision. If I'd have had five minutes more to think about it, I would have sent The Conway Sisters home.

'I acted out of loyalty, but this show is about talent. Maria should have stayed. The Conways don't have a chance of winning this competition'
like you just ruin the girls chances...uh ok
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:14
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Originally Posted by Dancing Queen
but they DO have a chance now don't they Simon?

I won't be watching the XFac again - it was an outrage on Saturday - those unattractive old, caterwauling bints against Maria yes.... wasn't it a hard decision .

At this rate Brenda will be voted out next week and do you know who will win?.......CHICO!!!!!!

Was I angry? - just a bit - Louis is a sad old lonely man and Simon - well words fail me. I was very glad to see Simon's sheepish look after he voted Maria off.

If she had been single and he would have had the chance of a shag he would have kept her in
I totally agree, I was so angry on Saturday, it makes a mockery of talent, Maria may not have won the whole show but she deserves to be there, she is streets ahead of The Conways. I won't be watching again either.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:16
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Anyone find this part of the Daily Mirror article interesting?

"You've got to realise what it's like in Ireland. He wouldn't have been able to walk down the street, he'd have been ripped apart if he hadn't saved those girls."
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:20
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How much experience do Simon and Louis have in the industry? How difficult was that decision on Saturday? These are experienced men who have a ton of years experience and canyness in the music industry. The fact that they made the wrong decision when the answer was so blaringly obvious is laughable. It does neither of them any favours in the credibility stakes and their reputations for impartial and fair critique has been blown out of the water. The cynically minded may be forgiven for believing that both used the opportunity to get rid of one of the front runners to make the path easier for their own acts.

I just think Simon has realised he has lost the dream package that was Maria.. lol I was meaning he has lost the ££££££ that Maria could have brought him....

At least she will hopefully not be signed to someone so she can sell unchained melody or some soppy covers.....

Got to feel sorry for the Conways.. they are swimming against the tide in waters too deep for them.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:20
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Originally Posted by alexfao
Anyone find this part of the Daily Mirror article interesting?

"You've got to realise what it's like in Ireland. He wouldn't have been able to walk down the street, he'd have been ripped apart if he hadn't saved those girls."
Instead he'll get ripped apart when he walks down the streets of England. I have never had a good opinion of Louis Walsh, and my opinion of him has plunged to new depths after Saturday, he should be sacked.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:26
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I agree about everything ye say about Louis Walsh,i never had a good opinion of him either,to be honest i cant stand the man.
I think though that Simon was genuinely shocked that Louis voted Maria off,i reckon he voted for the conways thinking Louis was going to save Maria,i think he was gutted when he realised what Louis had done.
Maria isnt my favourite on the show but she definately didnt deserve to go,the conway sisters should have gone weeks ago.
Two acts have now left the show that shouldnt have gone,while i wouldnt put 4tune in the same league as Maria they definately should not have left when they did either.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:31
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Originally Posted by alexfao
Anyone find this part of the Daily Mirror article interesting?

"You've got to realise what it's like in Ireland. He wouldn't have been able to walk down the street, he'd have been ripped apart if he hadn't saved those girls."
So what are the producers doing allowing an Irish judge, ruled by mob intimidation, to preside over a competition including Irish acts? By definition, the X-Factor has racial bias, is unfair and has nothing to do with talent. If Mrs O continues with this farce, her credibility is gone. The show is pathetic.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:34
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I guess this situation has brought into the open what most people have suspected for a long time that the show is 'fixed' and talent has nothing to do with it. It's all about the money!!!
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:35
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Originally Posted by nathanbrazil
So what are the producers doing allowing an Irish judge, ruled by mob intimidation, to preside over a competition including Irish acts? By definition, the X-Factor has racial bias, is unfair and has nothing to do with talent. If Mrs O continues with this farce, her credibility is gone. The show is pathetic.
actually racial discrimination is bad be it black/white, catholic/protestant whatever.......I realise now what is going on. Sharon should walk
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:38
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Why are you all blaming the judges? Maria was in the bottom two anyway so the public can't like her that much. I certainly don't. I don't like the Conways much either but I have enjoyed their performances more. If my favourite act, Journey South, are in the bottom two they will almost certainly be voted off by the judges so I just have to face facts.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:42
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Originally Posted by alexfao
...most people have suspected for a long time that the show is 'fixed'...
Rightly or wrongly Louis made a decision. As far as I am still aware the whole idea of voting is that it's a democracy, which entitles him for whatever reason to select whoever he wants. Plus, as I've stated on other threads, maybe you should point the finger at yourselves for not voting and putting her (Maria) in the bottom two in the first place.

Personally I think this was a brilliant bit of staged TV that has done its job in causing a hell of a lot of publicity and a controversial talking point.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:43
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The mans got b**ls to admit he made a mistake, especially as he may get lynched for it. I just wonder where his relationship with the Conway’s goes from here, considering they were very strained before this fiasco.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:49
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Originally Posted by ShowbizGosQueen
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'I made the wrong decision. If I'd have had five minutes more to think about it, I would have sent The Conway Sisters home.

'I acted out of loyalty, but this show is about talent. Maria should have stayed. The Conways don't have a chance of winning this competition'
I can see that Simon was in a difficult position; no judge really should ever be so disloyal to their own act to vote them off, but he has always gone on about how impartial he was going to be and how he would judge everyone on talent. There is NO WAY The Conways were better than Maria.
I really thought, of all the judges, Simon would be honest about who had the most talent; I would have respected him a lot more if he had sent The Conways home.
He even had more grounds than usual to do so, having fallen out with them big time and publicly almost washed his hands of them regading their performance that week; "I'm sorry girls, you took a gamble on your own and it didn't work, Maria was better tonight"
This yet again highlights the biggest flaw in the competition, ie the judges and the mentors being the same people. The feuding and squabbles make interesting TV but it really isn't right that people's talent and future careers can be trashed not because thay weren't good enough, but because of petty rivalry.
Let the acts sing, let the mentors comment, let the public vote, then the final say should be either the public or an impartial judge/judges.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:50
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Originally Posted by Dark Drums
Rightly or wrongly Louis made a decision. As far as I am still aware the whole idea of voting is that it's a democracy, which entitles him for whatever reason to select whoever he wants. Plus, as I've stated on other threads, maybe you should point the finger at yourselves for not voting and putting her (Maria) in the bottom two in the first place.

Personally I think this was a brilliant bit of staged TV that has done its job in causing a hell of a lot of publicity and a controversial talking point.
I could not agree with you more. If anyone was robbed it certainly wasn't Maria it was the people that spend their money on voting.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:50
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None of that changes the fact Maria was at the very least the second most unpopular act on saturday. All the excuses, blame and 'talent' in the world cannot change that? If people want to keep their favourite in then vote for them.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:52
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The rules are that the two who receive the lowest phone votes are in jeopardy of going out.

If all those supporters of Maria who are now complaining about her departure had voted for her instead of thinking she was automaticaly through to next weeks show, only have themselves to blame.

I personally agree that Maria is far more talented than the Conway Sisters, but the poor song choices suggested by her 'mentor' put her under threat. Sharon thought Maria was 'as safe as houses' whatever she sang, how wrong she was.

Maria's rendition of 'Beautiful' on the previous weeks show was outstanding, in my opinion, a competition winning performance. This weeks 'Brown Sugar' was a ridiculous song choice, with her know-all mentor only offering 'Satisfaction' as an alternative. A ridiculous decision by Sharon and co. which has ultimately elimated Maria from the X-Factor - Sharon should feel utterly ashamed of herself.

Although I wouldn't pi$$ on Louis if he was on fire, he has every right to make his own decision, whatever his reasons.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:58
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I don't think the outcry is so much that Maria was in the bottom 2, I think it's the fact that a judge obviously overlooked talent for other reasons.
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Old 14-11-2005, 09:58
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Originally Posted by Kiss & Tell
The mans got b**ls to admit he made a mistake, especially as he may get lynched for it.
I agree, must take some guts to admit he were in the wrong!! Everyone makes a mistake and the pressure he was under i dont blame him!!
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Old 14-11-2005, 10:01
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Originally Posted by alexfao
I don't think the outcry is so much that Maria was in the bottom 2, I think it's the fact that a judge obviously overlooked talent for other reasons.
SHaron did it with Chenai over 4tune based on her being a women. For her to harp on about it is complete double standards. What about Simon saving Chico because he thought the public liked him(after saying he only voted on talent) over Phil(admittedly not especially talented). This outcry seems to be based on the fact that Louis went with someone of his own nationality whom he likes and has a history with, since Sharon has kicked up a fuss about it. This is no exception it is the rule. What makes it ironic is the fact that Sharon could have saved Maria by giving her a decent track instead of playing up to her 'I know best' expert judge persona. If anyone comes out of this with no credit it is her.
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