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cacofonix
14-11-2005
Hi, I've been lucky, recordings with sound, clock fine etc, but I suddenly noticed last night I don't have Channel 5 listed, nor do I have BBC Radio 3 or 4, and there is a mysterious 8 in the list...how do I get the system to see the channels I'm missing, and if it means getting a new o/s will I loose the sound on my recordings?
redrob2
14-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“Hi, I've been lucky, recordings with sound, clock fine etc, but I suddenly noticed last night I don't have Channel 5 listed, nor do I have BBC Radio 3 or 4, and there is a mysterious 8 in the list...how do I get the system to see the channels I'm missing, and if it means getting a new o/s will I loose the sound on my recordings?”


I would suggest a full retune, I have no idea why you would lose some channels and gain number 8 (I think that's a data channel).
cacofonix
14-11-2005
err will I loose recordings done and scheduled with a full retune? is a full retune as simple as powering off and powering on the box with the switch (leaving a minute in between)?
marcdavis
14-11-2005
Is there a way to check favourites or toggle it on or off in case this is whats on?

Also, I think you can go into the list of channels somewhere in settings and select what channels you want to see and what channels you dont want to see on the box - without doing a full retune?
cacofonix
14-11-2005
thing is I haven't deselected anything so I don't know how Channel 5 could have gone missing in the first place, but I'll check anyway.
marcdavis
14-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“thing is I haven't deselected anything so I don't know how Channel 5 could have gone missing in the first place, but I'll check anyway.”

Absolutely - how/why did that happen in the first place? Would you consider sending the same message to Humax and seeing what they say about it - they may know - and I'd be very interested to know what they say about it.
michaelporter
14-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“Hi, I've been lucky, recordings with sound, clock fine etc, but I suddenly noticed last night I don't have Channel 5 listed, nor do I have BBC Radio 3 or 4, and there is a mysterious 8 in the list...how do I get the system to see the channels I'm missing, and if it means getting a new o/s will I loose the sound on my recordings?”

5, radio3 and radio4 are all on the same MUX. I had a similar "funny" in that I get signals from both Hannington and Crystal Palace and when I tuned the 9200 it picked up both versions of BBC1/2 and ITV but only stored one copy of the 5 and BBC radio signals which were the Hannington signals. When I did a manual re-scan of the Crystal Palace MUX I found an awful signal (48% vs 60% strength and 80% vs 100% quality on the other Crystal Palace Muxes) so that might be the reason for your receiver not picking up a signal - try a manual rescan on channel 32 to see what it finds.
Details of which mux is on which channel is at
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/transmitters.html
Detail of which service is on which Mux is at
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/dtt_channels.html
cacofonix
14-11-2005
thanks, I'm about a mile from Crystal Palace in Dulwich, only prob is not sure how to do a manual rescan on channel 32
michaelporter
14-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“thanks, I'm about a mile from Crystal Palace in Dulwich, only prob is not sure how to do a manual rescan on channel 32”

As you are in this Forum I assume the hopefully on your profile is now an actually for the 9200.

The details are on pages 61/62 of the manual.
Go to the manual search screen. To enter the correct channel navigate to the channel number already displayed, which seems to be the last one tuned into to watch a programme, press the right arrow alongside OK on the remote which will open a drop down list and then navigate that list using the up and down buttons by the OK key on the remote. Once you've got the desired channel hit OK and it will search that channel and give you a list of what it has found together with data on signal strength and quality. You can then decide whether to store or ignore and so far as I can tell nothing gets buggered up.
cacofonix
14-11-2005
thanks, will report back on this tomorrow.
cacofonix
15-11-2005
Well I tried a manual retune on channel 32, and got nothing, even though we live in the shadow of Crystal Palace. I also got my first recording without sound, QI on Friday BBC2, also my recording of Rome came with voiceover rather than the actors voices, made it completely wathcable, not sure if that was the box though, I suppose it's time for a call to Humax.
youngbaz
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“Hi, I've been lucky, recordings with sound, clock fine etc, but I suddenly noticed last night I don't have Channel 5 listed, nor do I have BBC Radio 3 or 4, and there is a mysterious 8 in the list...how do I get the system to see the channels I'm missing, and if it means getting a new o/s will I loose the sound on my recordings?”

Have you ever had Ch5 on the Humax? I had a similar thing some time back in that Ch5 was available fine via my VCR tuner, but my TV tuner just would not pick it up. Some very helpful people on this forum pointed out that there is often conflict between the UHF output (I think that's it!!) channel from the VCR and the channel that 5 is transmitted on. I manually changed the output channel on my VCR and that fixed it with regard to the TV. So, what other equipment do you have chained into the TV and HUmax? Check that there's no conflict. Since you can't change the frequency of the incoming transmissions, manually change your outputs.

Also, when I first tuned my 9200, all my ITV channels were missing. When I did a manual tuning check, the frequency for that mux had been set ex-factory to 'disabled'. Check via your on-screen menus whether that's happened to you - if so, toggle to 'enabled' and do a fresh autotune.

To answer your later Q ... doing a complete re-tune won't affect your recordings at all. You'll only lose those if you re-format your hard drive.

Barry
cacofonix
15-11-2005
thanks, our TV is a video/tv combi, other than that there's nothing. Humax tech support were not able to help, because I was not in front of the TV, they did say it could be the aerial given that I don't know anything about our aerial which was on the house when we moved in 4 years ago.

The other confusing thing is the soundtrack to the 2nd episode of Rome, the actors were all there on screen, but the voiceover was like a plot summary, but for the whole programme.

I will check the mux enable/disabled switch when I get home, then call Humax, not that easy by 6pm
CJL
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“The other confusing thing is the soundtrack to the 2nd episode of Rome, the actors were all there on screen, but the voiceover was like a plot summary, but for the whole programme.”

That's a feature (like subtitles for deaf) that's provided for the blind/poor sighted. It's a fairly new idea and mainly seems to be done on Channel 4 programmes at the moment (you may remember they ran some adverts with a suitcase full of money on a bed and a voiceover by Joannan Lumlely? No? Personally I remember ANYTHING that Joannan Lumley has done myself!! )

Anyway, you should be able to switch audio tracks while watching a program to get either the "normal" audio or the "commentary" audio.

However it's clearly a fault if your box recorded the wrong one.

But having said that, as noted in the manual on page GB12, button description "k" is the one to select SOUNDTRACK and if you had used this before the recording was made this might explain why you got the wrong audio.

I think it's possible that what happened was that you pressed the button on a channel that didn't have second audio so nothing immediately appeared to happen but maybe the box remembered this setting for the later recording that DID have secondary audio so it used that?

Cliff
youngbaz
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“thanks, our TV is a video/tv combi, other than that there's nothing.”

I presume that means a VCR/TV combi? Not being a techie I can't say for sure (come in Cliff!) but I guess the VCR bit must still, as it were, 'transmit' on a UHF channel in order for the TV to screen its output. If this is true, does the TV/VCR manual show how to change its channel (away from any Ch5 conflict).

Barry
CJL
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by youngbaz:
“(come in Cliff!)”

Barry

VCR/TVs are a bit before my time (I've only ever been involved in things digital) but AFAIK you're right that it is just two "separate" things that happen to be built into the same cabinet but the wiring is effectively the same as you'd have if they'd been separate.

Cliff
cacofonix
15-11-2005
thanks for this, this suggests I have to retune the output of my VCR before manually retuning the 9200T on channel 32 to get signal from MUX A? just got to find the manual (it's a 14in Philips VCR/TV combi (probably made by Funai) if anyone's know an URL for the manaul)).
youngbaz
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“thanks for this, this suggests I have to retune the output of my VCR before manually retuning the 9200T on channel 32 to get signal from MUX A? just got to find the manual (it's a 14in Philips VCR/TV combi (probably made by Funai) if anyone's know an URL for the manaul)).”

My VCR's a different make, but to change the channel I have to keep the Menu button depressed for more than 5secs, whereupon a new menu appears (or perhaps it's on the LCD display) showing the ouptut channel. You then use the numerical buttons on the RC to tpye in a new channel (a nice low one like 22 is usually safe) and hit OK.

Barry
cacofonix
15-11-2005
thanks, presumably I try this whilst playing a video?
Last edited by cacofonix : 15-11-2005 at 17:10
youngbaz
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by cacofonix:
“thanks, presumably I try this whilst on Channel 5”

No, it doesn't matter what channel you're on while you're doing this bit - you're just changing the channel your VCR is outputting to the TV on, just in case it's conflicting with the channel the TV would otherwise be receiving Ch5 on - it might not be the answer of course!
What you will need to know, in case a fresh autotune on the Humax after you've done this doesn't do the trick - is what channels/frequencies your local transmitter is using. Then, yes, use the RC to tune to the number you want to see the missing prog on, and do a manual tune. (Don't forget to check that the factory haven't disabled any of your channels for tuning.)

I do hope something works. The peeps who know about these things really helped me sort my tuning probs out when I first started following the DS Humax forum - even tho' those helping got their knuckles rapped a bit by the board monitors for being OT. :yawn:

Barry
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