In the real world, which does not include Walford , the best Peggy could get would be a ' Protection order' which would allow her to trade but not put her name above the door. A formal transfer of the licence would take at least a month.

Also in the real world, which does not include Walford, the exact ownership of the Vic would be very much in doubt and couldn't just be sold

How did Ian ever hope to make a profit out of that garage. He would be best selling it for the best price he can get.

Nice to see that the Mitchells are talking to and even employing the Slaters even though their lies did keep Sam in Prison for 4 months.

Nice to see Sam apologise to Tracy who had a big speaking part tonight

cigar on it's way to drifter

All i can say is D'oh!!!

after all the speculation on who the mystery visitor I was stunned to see it was Sam after all. must have wasted a good 60 minutes thinking hard about that one. and now theres the "mystery" on who is brown bread. I'm sticking to my guns and saying its the rickman, but then i'll probably see a pic of dennis there at the funeral and will blow that theory to pieces. (if it is chrissy who is dead do you think sharon would be so cruel to bury her with Den? hence sharon on her knees looking down at the coffin?...then again scratch that, he's buried with angie isn't he. den would be seriously miserable wherever he is stuck with them two for an eternity. hohoo...

was it me or was Phils sign fitting just a bit on the rubbish side. that sign was hardly on there. it'll probably fall off and send Mr Rickman to his early grave....whoops!!!

what bothers me is the fact Phil seems all too friendly with dennis now. ask yourself, would you forgive someone who A) tried to shoot you B) helped set you up C) helped your estranged ex girlfriend escape with your beloved child D) sleep with your wife E) marry your ex lover. nah, i'm not falling for it. something tells me phils not done with him yet. don't think he's capable of cold blooded murder though....unlike the gangster formally known as Beech.

ian is glutton for punishment, laughed my bottom off when he revealed he offered a measly 5grand for the vic. the cheek! serves him right. i wonder who will find the money when nana moon chucks it out with the rubbish. if of course GUS discovers Ian has lost 5 grand, and Gus finds it whilst cleaning the square, i reckon he will keep it for himself, especially as the two are about to clash regarding wellard.

nice to see Tracy getting a speaking role. she must have got a bit extra for that. thats another thing that bothers me, the residents of walford are far too forgiving. sharons cool with sam, even if she did bury her dad and failed to tell the police until months later. obviously the same with phil and dennis. kat and mo forgiving alfie for being a two timing chappy. then theres peggy forgetting that pat nicked her husband all them years back, ruby forgetting that her dad probably has some skanky prostitutes pinky in his safe....sheesh, apart from the slight midsomer murder esque death toll and the severe lack of decent totty over the age of 20, i should live there, be a serious bada** and be redeemed months later.

eastenders has been much better the past year though, and corrie seems a bit poor in comparison. sorry corrie lovers!!! i'm a big fan of corrie but since the dodgy status quo wedding i've not enjoyed it as much. now i look forward to EE like i used to all them years back when steve owen had poor matthew rose under his thumb. top class stuff all the way.

The thought crossed my mind. When he was talking to her it sounded like he was whinging about "the other half"

I'm working on making *their* after-lives a misery.

The sign must have been from when Peggy was the licencee previously. The Mitchell`s have been in the pub a couple of days. They would have to be the legal owners before Peggy could apply for a licence and that would have to be agreed by a magistrate. They are running the Vic illegally. But that is just part of the sloppyness of EE these days.
Ian wouldn`t have bought the Vic for £5000, we don`t know how much but Chrissie asked for as much as possible in cash. If it had all been paid for by cheque Ian would have just stopped the cheque so they had to have some way of him losing money.

I'm going to say this most delicately....

Garry doesn't realise how much of a couple he and Minty have become - but we all have

Poor Garry when he discovers that gay people can also be famale.

Why so much confusion about how Peggy got the vic?! Chrissie told sharon the vic isn't legally hers, she faked the signature and the date (1stMarch - Den died 18th February). Therefore Den still owns the Vic, but he's dead so it auto matically (providing theres no will) would fall to either Denis or Sharon as next of kin because theres no one else. Sharon then offered the vic to peggy because she didn't want it, maybe they haven't paid for it yet? And the license peggy put up over the door is the same one she had from before, so she could just put it up straight away.

And i really dont think it will make such a huge difference to Gary whether Naomi is gay or not, he said himself to Minty they were just friends, and Gary has never before been portrayed as a homophobe. He may be shocked and find it a bit weird but i think the producers are using it as a way to intergrate Naomi more (as sonia and Martin have patched things up.....for now) and some other company for Gary (as minty has Phil back)

Greatto see the Mitchells home in the Vic, excellent episode tonight!

Poor Sam. Her happiness won't last long though. What are these outstanding charges that the lawyer mentioned to Phil.

1. Accessory to murder/ Manslaughter

2. Hiding a dead body this thwarting the Coroner

3. Damage to Cellar floor

4. Kidnapping Tracy

5. Assault on Tracy

Shouldn't be too difficult to get rid of the last two

Den legitimately signed over half of the Vic to Chrissie.

Great episode tonite, glad Sam's back,and the Mitchells back behind the bar is a good luck. Johnny definately doesn't plan to let the Mitchells get over on him as we saw on tonite's episode helping Ian out ot phils nose outta joint. Rubes was quality tonite,though still don't see her ending up with Juley,how old is he?!! And i'm thinking it was Kat that chucked Ian outta the pub and not Sam.

Roll on tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you've never had to deal with the joys of probate even when it's straightforward. This stuff takes MONTHS. Den owned half the Vic, Chrissie owns half. In the normal run of things, as his wife she inherits his half. Until she's convicted, her right to his half isn't resolved. Once she's convicted (and her "putting 'er ahhhhnds ap" in a police cell doesn't count), they'd go to a will to see how Den divided his assets between his children. If there's no will, then this has to be resolved through lawyers and courts acting for his biological and adopted children. Even when that's all resolved, Chrissie still legally owns half of the Vic from before. It could have made for an interesting slow boil story instead of this ridiculous soapland legal system nonsense: it smacks of "Of we're just bored of this now lets wrap it up, the viewers are too stupid or shallow to care about the detail".

Missed last nights episode, can somebody tell me what Tracy said?

Agree about the points raised here with Jane, Id like for her to interact with more stong females.

Great episode last night. Thats why EE is number 1 in the ratings.

It so was!!

No he bought it for a knock-down price for which Chrissy demanded as much of it in cash as he could get his hands on. As a result he gave her £5000 from the various safes from his businesses. Incidentally, Ian's £5000 now appears to be hidden under the stairs in the Moon's house (that's what Jake was hiding at the start of the episode).

I'm guessing we are meant to believe that Chrissy signed over her half to Sharon and that Sharon inherited Den's share - hense why Sharon then had the powers to sell it to Peggy.

Peggy does not have a criminal record so she can hold the licence for the vic. I'm also guessing that the sale hasn't yet been finalised, but have probably agreed to run the vic until the sale officially goes through, with Sharon being absent (again - how many holidays can that women afford?) the Mitchells now run the pub.

As for where they get the money to hire a top-class lawyer, buy the pub and put in an offer for the arches - now that is a mystery!

In spite of all of my bitching, I did enjoy it.

Even though there are so many plot-holes you really could drive a double-decker bus through them.

The only downside (for me) is that the Mitchells get back the pub :yawn: (and it looks like Phil's set to get back the Arches.)

You're right, b&g - the Vic sale hasn't been finalised yet. Dennis stressed they will accept a fair price for it on their return from holiday, should the Mitchells want it.

So Peggy hasn't got her licence renewed - she's jumped the gun and is using her old name-plate.

But since when did Chrissie have a licence? Peggy said she wasn't opening up with that "murdering cah's" name above the door.

As for where they got all of their money from, I'm tired of asking that question.

It looks like we may well have seen the last of Marcus.

Unfortunately.

Him returning most of the Mitchell fortune would have been a fairly credible way of explaining how they could pay for the Vic etc.

Sorry Trixie but that made me choke on my breakfast. Try reading the (now closed) Shane Richie's performance thread on TW! (I post over there, but it isn't all hearts and flowers ).

Yeah but with Chrissie in Prison for life, I doubt she will have the power to get it back while inside.

Absolutely agree, this really aggravates me. Even if there IS a Will, the estate would still have to go through probate and the simplest case takes months. Until it is established who owns the pub after Den's death, it can't be sold. That's if we conveniently forget that Chrissie owns half anyway. The writers could have made a great plot out of 'who owns the Vic' but instead they just assumed all our brains have collapsed like souffles and they needn't bother.

And where exactly are Phil and Peggy going to get the money anyway? They can't possibly have half a million+ in cash, and neither of them would get a mortgage for that amount as they have no income.

She doesn't have to 'get it back' - she still owns it. And there is nothing to stop you owning property while you're inside. The writers could at least have bothered to have Chrissie 'give' her half to Sharon out of guilt, but they haven't.

spoilers suggest that Chrissy will be around in a few weeks time as she has meetings with her solicitor.

It was also mentioned on here aboout 2 months ago that the mitchells would get the pub back - but it wont be as straight forward as it seems - so maybe we havent seen the last of this situation??