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Old 10-07-2002, 16:44
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Originally posted by dicey
Have you seen the poll on this website as to who is favourite in week 7, it's only Jonny that's in the lead. I am flabbergasted
http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/pollres.php

He has been most popular in week 7, 6, 4 and 3
Second most popular in week 5 // Why was Kate was so popular that week ?
He has survived three evictions.

The big question is why is he popular ?

Whenever anyone responds, it's just because he's a nice bloke from the North East, and everyone who calls BBLB with a geordie accent wants him to win. Flabbergasted as well!
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:48
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Not a big Johnny fan myself: irritates me the way he interrogates people about what they've been doing when he wasn't in the room. As for banging on about his poor family travelling to London for eviction night - it's like he's begging the other hm's not to nominate him.
Originally posted by ArrGee

I think he will win, but like Craig in the first Big Brother, I'm not sure why.
I'm inclined to agree.

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As for the reason why: just think about how stupid the average person is, and remember that by definition half the population are even more stupid than that.
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Old 10-07-2002, 17:05
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Originally posted by chr1sb
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As for the reason why: just think about how stupid the average person is, and remember that by definition half the population are even more stupid than that.
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Ah, that explains why Craig won! Especially when you consider the half of the population most likely to vote anyway!

Looks like I'm jumping out of that frying pan with you
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Old 10-07-2002, 18:10
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anyone see that pic of Jonny on BBLB last night?
craning his neck to get in the picture and putting on the worlds' FAKEST smile.
sums him up.
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Old 10-07-2002, 18:56
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I have been reading the reasons people give for him to be a favourite in this and other sites and what I have found out boils down to:

1.- He is a fireman
He saves lifes
His works is not well paid
He is a hero in the same way as the firemen involved in Sept 11th
He represents the working class
Women feel atracted to men in uniform

2.- He is a simple and honest man from the North East
He cares about his family
He doesn't backstab or dislike others for not reason
He embodies geordie/northern culture

3.- He is funny
His antics with Kate
Drinking games, humor, entertainment value

Some of the reasons has nothing to do with how he has behaved in BB at all. Personally I don't find his profession a reasonable criteria,. I have never considered Jonny as the embodiment of the Fire Brigade and all professions deserve respect. In the same way that they are priests that don't honour their position, being a fireman is not proof of sainthood.

Salary is not a reason to consider who should win or not. BB has never been promoted as a charity instituion.

Some NorthEastenders don't feel confortable as beein portraited as Jonny, in the same way Sandy can not be seen as every Scotsman. It's their individual values that should count, not whether they were born. The same goes for class values.

I don't doubt Jonny is very fond of his family, I assume everybody in the BB is. The problem is him constantly mentioning them has became annoying and an irrational justification for him not to expect nominations from other HM. He knew this could happen. He can not expect everybody liking him. He himself has shown dislike and has nominated others. It seems more a case of double standards. BB is an exercise in how to deal with rejection and it has always been.

If something can define this BB is how backstabbing and bitching has reached new levels. The producers wanted this and every single HM has been at it. It has been the editing, bias and how this was carried out that has helped some of them to appear no so much involved.

As for his funny side, well it was funny the first time but after seing the same again and again, it becomes boring, basic and predictable. HIs funny moments are far from been spontaneus and natural. He tries to hard and it's clear he likes to see himself as the funny man of the bunch. If you compare him to Brian last year you will have to conclude that what was second nature to Brian, is anything but forced in Jonny. Brian could laugh about the others and himself and he showed quick wit and was pathetically funny even without trying. I can not say the same about Jonny.

The person we have seen in BB has shown not so many qualities that I would consider a reson for him winning and the more I see of him the less he comes across in a good light: He comes across as a progressively embittered man trying to hard.. That is going to be his downfall as the final approaches and his more unpleasant side starts to be evident. The fact is many people (even some of his fans) are growing tired of him.

If that is the person you want to win.. go for it. I have other preferences.
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Old 10-07-2002, 20:55
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the amount of people that read on this forum is 2 small to change the votes in a big way. I hope jonny wins but if not definatly not alex, i cant stand him.. Kate or Jonny 2 win!
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:00
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JOHNNY OUT - ALEX WILL [SIZE=4]WIN[/SIZE]
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:00
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I have to say.

The feedback we're getting from the Radio 1 listeners is OVERWHELMINGLY Jonny to win (and that's not just because Chris Moyles likes him).

Monitoring the BB e-mails we got Alex was the clear favourite for the first couple of weeks, Jonny is now the clear favourite however, Kate is starting a REAL surge and if she goes on like this could win the series as far as the Radio 1 listeners go(providing she's not voted out this week!)

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Old 10-07-2002, 21:11
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okay - list a redeeming feature Jonny has (having a face you'd love to punch doesn't count!)
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:21
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ok, (but remember these aren't my opinions but the ones that come across in the e-mails):

He comes across as a genuine guy who enjoys having a laugh
When he is funny - he's very funny (especially the games and impressions with Kate)
He seems quite down to earth (Craig from BB1 style) which means it would be good for him to win unlike Alex who's so obviously trying to use this for his modelling career!
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:23
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Originally posted by R1_BBAled
which means it would be good for him to win unlike Alex who's so obviously trying to use this for his modelling career!
And Jonny has an equity card for what reason then?

And the fact that Jonny is in a band is purely co-incidental?
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:26
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Originally posted by R1_BBAled

He seems quite down to earth (Craig from BB1 style) which means it would be good for him to win unlike Alex who's so obviously trying to use this for his modelling career!
Alex has mentioned that BB will be bad publicity for his modeling career in Britain.
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:40
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Originally posted by Sazz


And Jonny has an equity card for what reason then?

And the fact that Jonny is in a band is purely co-incidental?
Sure, he has an equity card AND is in a band, but it's really coming across that he seems entertaining because he's funny not because he's trying to do what will win the game! In other words people like him because he's an entertaining guy.

I've spoken to his wife and she backs that up. he's like that 24/7 and people warm to that.
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:41
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Originally posted by R1_BBAled


Sure, he has an equity card AND is in a band, but it's really coming across that he seems entertaining because he's funny not because he's trying to do what will win the game! In other words people like him because he's an entertaining guy.

I've spoken to his wife and she backs that up. he's like that 24/7 and people warm to that.
And is wife is not in anyway biased.......
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:42
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Originally posted by tamara


Alex has mentioned that BB will be bad publicity for his modeling career in Britain.
He may have said that, but I don't believe for a second that he means it. He wants to be a model very badly, that comes across on TV, if he really thought he was coming off badly and it was ruining his career he'd go the way of Sunita and walked.
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:44
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Originally posted by R1_BBAled


He may have said that, but I don't believe for a second that he means it. He wants to be a model very badly, that comes across on TV, if he really thought he was coming off badly and it was ruining his career he'd go the way of Sunita and walked.
His modelling is mainly abroad anyway so why shouldnt he mean it, have you ever considered hes just in it for the money and the experience?
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:50
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Originally posted by R1_BBAled

he's like that 24/7 and people warm to that.
How can you say that when Jonny is the most emotionial up & down character ever to enter Big Brother?
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:52
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B]I've spoken to his wife and she backs that up. he's like that 24/7 and people warm to that.[/b]

What do you mean wife? I didn't know Jonny was married, I thought he was engaged?

And by the way, after all the answers I have read today I still don't understand why Jonny is so popular.
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:53
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Originally posted by Sazz


And is wife is not in anyway biased.......
Of course she's biased, but when asked is he being himself in the house, being biased doesn't mean she answers yes does it!

It makes no difference to her whether he's louder in the house than normal or more O.T.T. Her exact words were "oh, yes, he's always like that life and soul of a party". All I'm saying is not that he's not an attention seeker (he clearly is) but people like the fact he seems genuine.

Brian was WAY more of an attention seeker last year, but people believed he was being himself and is naturally funny so they voted him to win.
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Old 10-07-2002, 21:59
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I am definately not a Jonny fan and would love him to be voted out NEXT..the others , Tim etc can wait.
I know I'm only dreaming, but has anyone noticed how everyone on BBLB smiles fondly when they talk of Jonny, and if he gets up to anything in the house he is refered to as a "cheeky chappie" on E4's ticker.
Hitting the girls too hard, starting the drinking games in the hope they will lead somewhere etc etc never appear on C4 summary..
Just a sentence about how worried he was about his Dad when he was ill seemed to be his main contribution last night.
No wonder he has such a big fan club out there!
I'm going to watch tonights prog now to see how good 'ol Jonny 2 shoes' has been getting on.
Oh, and I musn't forget to watch his all seeing eyes darting about, weighing everything/body up. I am waiting to see if they evr synchronize with his mouth and laugh too!
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Old 10-07-2002, 22:00
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Originally posted by R1_BBAled

I've spoken to his wife and she backs that up. he's like that 24/7 and people warm to that.
hang on a minute... Jonny ain't married? he still lives with his mummy and daddy doesn't he, tho' he has been going out with his bird for 4 years...
so what is this about?
I've also heard as have we all that he has a terrible temper, and we have seen him moping round the house every day for weeks on end. You call THAT entertaining? I think that is much closer to the REAL Jonny, not the invented for BB Jonny, whom I call a total idiot at best, and a slimey crawley ughhhhh worm thing at worst.
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Old 10-07-2002, 22:20
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Originally posted by johnno

hang on a minute... Jonny ain't married? he still lives with his mummy and daddy doesn't he, tho' he has been going out with his bird for 4 years...
so what is this about?
I've also heard as have we all that he has a terrible temper, and we have seen him moping round the house every day for weeks on end. You call THAT entertaining? I think that is much closer to the REAL Jonny, not the invented for BB Jonny, whom I call a total idiot at best, and a slimey crawley ughhhhh worm thing at worst.
Sorry, I assumed it was his wife, I may be jumping to conclusions, they could still be engaged. Sorry if I jumped the gun.
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Old 10-07-2002, 22:43
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Earlier tonight Jonny said:


"Jonny ups the ante in the 'childhood prizes' stakes by saying his family won four of the five prizes when they went to Butlins; Jonny himself won the Fancy Dress and Art competitions, and her sister won the Dance competition; in the fancy dress competition, Jonny was dressed like 'Fag Ash Lil'."


<snob> Can we seriously allow an unfunny, repetitive common git who's family went to Butlins and entered all the competitions, to win BB? </snob>

Please no!!!
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Old 10-07-2002, 22:54
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Originally posted by TSR
Earlier tonight Jonny said:


"Jonny ups the ante in the 'childhood prizes' stakes by saying his family won four of the five prizes when they went to Butlins; Jonny himself won the Fancy Dress and Art competitions, and her sister won the Dance competition; in the fancy dress competition, Jonny was dressed like 'Fag Ash Lil'."


<snob> Can we seriously allow an unfunny, repetitive common git who's family went to Butlins and entered all the competitions, to win BB? </snob>

Please no!!!
What is Butlins?
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Old 10-07-2002, 22:59
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Originally posted by TSR
Earlier tonight Jonny said:


"Jonny ups the ante in the 'childhood prizes' stakes by saying his family won four of the five prizes when they went to Butlins; Jonny himself won the Fancy Dress and Art competitions, and her sister won the Dance competition; in the fancy dress competition, Jonny was dressed like 'Fag Ash Lil'."


<snob> Can we seriously allow an unfunny, repetitive common git who's family went to Butlins and entered all the competitions, to win BB? </snob>

Please no!!!
The more i read these sort of posts about Jonny, the more times im tempted to vote in his favour.
The Jonny haters are generally those who align themselves with the snobby end of the household and probably share many of the views of Tim.
I live in the north-east but dont origninate from here. I think im able to mix with people from all backgrounds. I have friends who are ponsy like Alex and earthy types like Jonny but dont judge the HM's on their class or background. My views of the HM's are based on whether they come across as decent people and people I would be happy to know. My views have changed somewhat as BB has progressed but the 2 I have consistently liked are Jonny and Kate, but Alex is starting to grow on me, especially now he is chilling, whereas now the real PJ has emerged ive gone off him.
Most of the views here are simply based on snobbery, and a lack of understanding of why people present in the way they do.
Jonny and Kate are both pretty ordinary, not particularly well educated, but basically decent people in my view, and fortunately most of the country can see that!
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