DS Forums

 
 

Jade Last Night!!!!


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-07-2002, 13:53
BB3no1Fan
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1
[SIZE=4]Oh my god! Is anyone else traumatised by the entire viewing?[/SIZE] :'( [COLOR=crimson] I don't think I'll ever tune in live after midnight again![/COLOR]
BB3no1Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 10-07-2002, 13:54
NoDOGs
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Cyberspace
Posts: 1,142
Perhaps we'd all need to be blind drunk ourselves in order to judge the scene fairly, otherwise it's all too easy to get on high horses and say so-and-so is to blame and should have done whatever to stop it.

In fact, why not blame Tim as he definitely wasn't drunk - he spent most of the time just pretending to drink from his glass - whilst the others were all off their faces. So he could have been the one to think about stop the game, but didn't.

I didn't see the C4 version. Did they show Jade trying to physically remove Alex's clothes? Who's the bully and victim there then? nd
NoDOGs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 13:54
Dee Girl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 82
Although I agree that the personal attacks are vile she does seem to get herself into a nasty bother a lot of the time doesn't she - that one hasn't even been touched up or edited - glad its not me that's all I'll say...

Has the press ever been this hateful towards one contestant? I don't remember the "Nasty Nick" thing being this vindictive??
Dee Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:00
spearish
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: northern lass living in Midlan
Posts: 2,275
Originally posted by NoDOGs
Perhaps we'd all need to be blind drunk ourselves in order to judge the scene fairly, otherwise it's all too easy to get on high horses and say so-and-so is to blame and should have done whatever to stop it.

In fact, why not blame Tim as he definitely wasn't drunk - he spent most of the time just pretending to drink from his glass - whilst the others were all off their faces. So he could have been the one to think about stop the game, but didn't.

I didn't see the C4 version. Did they show Jade trying to physically remove Alex's clothes? Who's the bully and victim there then? nd
Who did what isnt the case anymore ...NO ONE deserves to have a picture like that printed in a national newspaper simply for taking part in a TV show
spearish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:00
SkyeL1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 242
Jade may have the body of a 21 year old but she has the mind of a child. I first thought she was putting on an act but she's not, she really is a very immature person who is well out of her depth in that house. Jade does not fit in with the other HMs but she desperately wants to. She will do whatever it takes to please them because she so wants to be liked. She hasn't the intelligence to figure out that doing whatever people want won't make them like you.

What happened the other night was a setup by the other HMs. They made sure Jade would lose so they could take the p*** out of her. The rest were sitting fully clothed while Jade was naked, yet they had also broken the rules. Had the rest been playing by the same set of rules, they too would have had less clothes on and it might not have seemed so bad but they were not enforcing the rules upon themselves, only upon Jade.

I would ask anyone who found that funny, if it had been a 10 year old, would you still have found it funny? The reason I ask is because most 10 year olds I know are more mature than Jade.
SkyeL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:01
KimWim
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bermondsey
Posts: 127
Originally posted by spearish


Who did what isnt the case anymore ...NO ONE deserves to have a picture like that printed in a national newspaper simply for taking part in a TV show
Totally agree!!
KimWim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:04
BBbabe
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 82
Originally posted by KimWim


Totally agree!!


Me to, although I do find it quite amusing, I feel they are being totally unfair to Jade with all the picture on the newspapers and the emails going round!

She is gonna have such a hard time when she comes out ya know!
BBbabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:08
Dee Girl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 82
Originally posted by SkyeL1
Jade may have the body of a 21 year old but she has the mind of a child. I first thought she was putting on an act but she's not, she really is a very immature person who is well out of her depth in that house. Jade does not fit in with the other HMs but she desperately wants to. She will do whatever it takes to please them because she so wants to be liked. She hasn't the intelligence to figure out that doing whatever people want won't make them like you.

What happened the other night was a setup by the other HMs.
If you saw the fight with PJ you will see that each of Jade's actions are carefully orchestrated - she begins with tears which PJ has see before and comments on as being ineffective upon hearing this her tears miraculously stop,

If I genuinely cry I know that it is impossible to turn off the tears at a moments notice yet Jade manges to do just that and resorts to her next form of manipulation in this case shouting over PJ so that none of his argument can be heard - if she were truly childlike she would have cried until he left her alone instead she was angered by the ineffectiveness of her tears.

As for the getting naked bit - she wanted to get naked - no one forced her to and lets face it no one actually wanted her to. Its not a case of one set of rules for HM's and another for Jade its merely a case of HM's not wanting to take their kit off and Jade wanting to ensure her 3min airtime on C4 highlights...
Dee Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:10
Shatmaself
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Rugby
Posts: 110
I watched what happened on E4, but the one thing I seem to have missed is when Kate ripped the clothes from Jade's person ?!
It did happen didn't it ? a lot of people in this thread seem to think Kate had a lot to do with Jade disrobing her 4 items of clothing, maybe I blinked & missed it !?
I don't know what channel people were watching, obviously not the same as me, but I saw Jade, laughing, giggling, smiling & having a bucket load of harmless fun last night & for once getting the happy laughs & attention she has been seeking.
If Jade, as an adult, didn't want to strip, she would have made, annebriated or not, an adult decision to keep her clothes on.

Jade was having fun, regardless of what anybody else thinks.
Shatmaself is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:17
Dee Girl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 82
Originally posted by Shatmaself
[

Jade was having fun, regardless of what anybody else thinks. [/b]
I agree she wasn't in the least upset and I say "good on her" I couldn't get naked but maybe I'm not as comfortable with my person as she is...

Something to consider methinks!
Dee Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:19
NoDOGs
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Cyberspace
Posts: 1,142
Originally posted by spearish


Who did what isnt the case anymore ...NO ONE deserves to have a picture like that printed in a national newspaper simply for taking part in a TV show
I was not, and will not, defend the actions of newspapers. I agree with you on this point. nd
NoDOGs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:27
Dancing Cloud
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1

I don't know what all the fuss is about, concerning Jade getting naked. It is only a human body. She is proud of her body, and I don't see why everyone is so shocked. She isn't ashamed, is she?
Dancing Cloud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:35
spearish
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: northern lass living in Midlan
Posts: 2,275

Wether she DID or DIDNT have "fun" !!
Wether she was pushed or chose to do it herself ...
THIS is a young woman who in years to come may have a family ...


.http://www.thesun.co.uk/section/0,,2,00.html

WOULD ANY HUMAN BEING like THAT photo to be on their "record" .
THAT is the most degrading photo of a human being ...taken without their knowledge .....
Even if Jade chooses to take her clothes off in other magazines she does have a CHOICE at least .
spearish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:39
SkyeL1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 242
Originally posted by Dee Girl


If I genuinely cry I know that it is impossible to turn off the tears at a moments notice yet Jade manges to do just that and resorts to her next form of manipulation in this case shouting over PJ so that none of his argument can be heard - if she were truly childlike she would have cried until he left her alone instead she was angered by the ineffectiveness of her tears.

As for the getting naked bit - she wanted to get naked - no one forced her to and lets face it no one actually wanted her to. Its not a case of one set of rules for HM's and another for Jade its merely a case of HM's not wanting to take their kit off and Jade wanting to ensure her 3min airtime on C4 highlights...
Most kids, between 3 and 5 years of age, when they can't get their own way will cry and when that doesn't work, they scream. I've never met anyone who can't stop crying at a moment's notice. Have you never cried and when someone walks in, just stop yourself and even try to hide the fact you were crying? The most manipulative people in this world are young children.

It was one set of rules for Jade and another for everyone else. They insisted Jade stick to the rules they made up whilst they themselves broke the same rules but didn't strip. Jade got naked because they told her she had to and in her immature brain, she figured it would make them like her.

The girl definately has problems and needs counselling badly.
SkyeL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:41
Fudge
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 1,510
I have to say that this whole incident confirmed me in my belief that I couldn't care less about any of them. It is like watching the activities of a bunch of under tens, moving from bullying one person to the next, then its the turn of the dimmest one who is entirely nasty herself and so anything done to her is quite justified. What a horrible bunch of people.

So why do I watch? Well I hadn't watched BB3 for days, after being completely hooked on BB2 at the same stage last year, then I did once more. Big mistake, not to be repeated.
Fudge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:44
Dee Girl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 82
Originally posted by SkyeL1


Most kids, between 3 and 5 years of age, when they can't get their own way will cry and when that doesn't work, they scream. I've never met anyone who can't stop crying at a moment's notice. Have you never cried and when someone walks in, just stop yourself and even try to hide the fact you were crying? The most manipulative people in this world are young children.
JADE IS NOT 3 SHE'S NOT 5 SHE'S A 21 YEAR OLD DENTAL NURSE!

WHY THE COMPARISONS THEN GET OVER IT SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING...
Dee Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:50
Shatmaself
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Rugby
Posts: 110

Originally posted by spearish
WOULD ANY HUMAN BEING like THAT photo to be on their "record".
Myself, if in fun, then not bothered. As for Jade, I don't think anyone can jump to assumptions.
THAT is the most degrading photo of a human being ...taken without their knowledge .....
Overreacting a tad !?
Even if Jade chooses to take her clothes off in other magazines she does have a CHOICE at least .
In magazines, yes she does have a choice. But any contestant entering BB virtually signs away all rights whilst in the BB house. Where did the picture come from ? Would The Sun have been able to print without permission ?
It seems to me that BB is exercising it's copyright & any HM will/does/has to understand what is involved within that copyright.
Shatmaself is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:51
yanspam
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 26
"THAT is the most degrading photo of a human being ...taken without their knowledge ....."

Spearish - did Jade not willingly enter a house where she was told and agreed to have ALL images recorded and broadcast at ALL times - supposedly without exception? The picture has not been doctored in any way and accurately depicts the way Jade was looking at that particular moment. If she didn't want photos of herself looking like that in the national press she should either have decided to change the way she looks before going on the show - or not gone on at all.
yanspam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 14:56
spearish
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: northern lass living in Midlan
Posts: 2,275
Originally posted by yanspam
"THAT is the most degrading photo of a human being ...taken without their knowledge ....."

Spearish - did Jade not willingly enter a house where she was told and agreed to have ALL images recorded and broadcast at ALL times - supposedly without exception? The picture has not been doctored in any way and accurately depicts the way Jade was looking at that particular moment. If she didn't want photos of herself looking like that in the national press she should either have decided to change the way she looks before going on the show - or not gone on at all.
But its NOT just a "random " image is it ....its to further a hate campaign against someone ..
Even Adele didnt have vitriolic photos like that printed of her ....your all entitled to your own views ...
I'm simply airing mine ....I find it SICK
spearish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 15:05
always_confused
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 42
they were playing a drinking game. it's supposed to be fun. they had all agreed to the rules.

jade lost. so she had to obey the rules. who cares what kate said?

it was just a laugh. jade didn't look particularly embarassed or shy did she? for god's sake...it was just people having fun...don't take it so seriously.
always_confused is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 15:17
maggie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,716
Jade is not a helpless child without a will of her own. She's tougher and smarter than people here are willing to believe.

Watching her confrontation with PJ the other night was more than insightful -- she never lost control, she used all her tricks, even to the point of starting to cry (while watching herself in the mirror) and than saying it was because she was missing her mum and friends -- all calculated to make PJ look like the bad guy. This is not a fragile, helpless, lost child.

She has said time and again that she knows what she's doing, and it's obvious that she does.

As for the stripping, why should everyone have to protect her from herself? None of the others, no matter how drunk, would have stripped down as she did. Of course they were egging her on, as they egged each other on when they got the answers wrong, but that didn't mean that she HAD to strip. It was just a stupid drinking game -- all she had to do was say "no" and that would have been the end to it. She did it because basically she didn't care what she showed or to how many millions.

And there are enough nude photographs of Jade floating around the internet and published in the tabloids to prove that point.

I'm sorry, but I'm getting tired of all the "save Jade from herself" campaigns.
maggie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 15:22
nelly-j
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: bristol
Posts: 3,401
to all of you who think what happened was hilarious....take jade out put your daughter/sister in her place , her first time at a party with a group of friends, gets drunk ,loses inhibitions, they start a stripping drinking game.
enter kate "you agreed to strip so get your clothes off jade"
enter pj ,jonny and tim " lets think of difficult names to confuse her and tell her she's got it wrong when she has it right...snigger"
enter alex" i'll cover yo jade...oops i keep dropping the t-shirt..snigger"
all these people are fully dressed and saying that if they lost they would remove their clothes...not
the girl is now naked and begging to have clothes to cover her...others say tough you agreed.
i for one would have a bloody fit if this happened to my daughter and some might even take matters further...
if i wanted to watch what happens to a situation getting out of hand i will watch "the accused" until then c4 should take more control over this whole situation.
nelly-j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 15:29
spearish
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: northern lass living in Midlan
Posts: 2,275
I am NOT trying to "save Jade from herself" or suggesting the wrongs or rights of her taking off her clothes last night ....but I think that the photo in question "(see link above)..in which she is **FULLY **clothed depicts her as an animal .It is a horrible photo..taken at a time when they were all having fun ...
I simply OBJECT to ANY photo of ANY housemate taken like this being used to further a "hate campaign".
THe SUN really IS the gutter press in my book
spearish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 15:33
nelly-j
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: bristol
Posts: 3,401
Originally posted by spearish
I am NOT trying to "save Jade from herself" or suggesting the wrongs or rights of her taking off her clothes last night ....but I think that the photo in question "(see link above)..in which she is **FULLY **clothed depicts her as an animal .It is a horrible photo..taken at a time when they were all having fun ...
I simply OBJECT to ANY photo of ANY housemate taken like this being used to further a "hate campaign".
THe SUN really IS the gutter press in my book

have just seen the pics , and have to agree with you. also have seen the thread that ds is allowing to run which is about these pics, inc links and people doin even worse comparisons.
i will say again that i don't like any of the hms but this behaviour by the sun is vile.
nelly-j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2002, 15:37
Dee Girl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London
Posts: 82
down with the gutter press,,,
Dee Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 18:04.