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Old 10-07-2002, 15:38
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Old 10-07-2002, 15:53
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:02
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Come on lighten up, Jade getting naked is not that bad, just classic drunken antics. She has gone up in my estimation. As for putting blame on the other HM's- rubbish. When alcohol is involved you do egg each other on, I have friends who get naked when drunk (although not on national TV) but at the end of the day that's there choice, they & Jade love it. I don't think they were trying to humiliate her, their reactions showed that they were shocked but found it hilarious, look at Johnny rolling around with laughter. They were just having a laugh and not thinking of the consequences, that's what you do when you're young!

As for the Jade hate campaign in the press, that's just totally out of order, no one deserves that just for going on a TV show.
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:02
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:05
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


JADE IS NOT 3 SHE'S NOT 5 SHE'S A 21 YEAR OLD DENTAL NURSE!

WHY THE COMPARISONS THEN GET OVER IT SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING...
My cousin is a 36 year old librarian with the mind of a 12 year old due to a medical condition diagnosed when she was a teenager with behavioural problems. Jade just might have the same problem, she is certainly portraying the same traits.
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:11
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My cousin is a 36 year old librarian with the mind of a 12 year old due to a medical condition diagnosed when she was a teenager with behavioural problems. Jade just might have the same problem, she is certainly portraying the same traits.
I suppose that is why Jadeis a trained dental nurse and sticks sharp metal objects down peoples throats all day long - sorry about your cousin but do you think your cousin would pass the pysch testing and make it into the house? and don't you feel that it is a betrayal of your cousin's actual condition to use it as an excuse for Jade's manipulation of housemates and public?
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:19
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


I suppose that is why Jadeis a trained dental nurse and sticks sharp metal objects down peoples throats all day long - sorry about your cousin but do you think your cousin would pass the pysch testing and make it into the house? and don't you feel that it is a betrayal of your cousin's actual condition to use it as an excuse for Jade's manipulation of housemates and public?
Thats a bit harsh ...I've "never" had a dental nurse stick bits of metal down my throat ...lets face it she could have been put there on placement or other circumstances ....she may simply make appointments ....I work with mentaly challenged adults and am aware that you can help them to "train" to do many things ...they are usually able to learn a set task ...even if they lack the knowledge in many other areas .

I do have my worries about Jade but find it difficult to believe the pyschologists wouldnt have picked up on this ....
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:21
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


As for the getting naked bit - she wanted to get naked - no one forced her to and lets face it no one actually wanted her to. Its not a case of one set of rules for HM's and another for Jade its merely a case of HM's not wanting to take their kit off and Jade wanting to ensure her 3min airtime on C4 highlights...
I totally disagree with that. It was indeed a set up by the other HMs. She was v. embarassed last night and kept saying so. The other HMs WANTED HER TO GET NAKED and pressured her into thinking she had to cos she got things wrong. And it was one set of rules for the others cos everytime another HM got it duplicated they would say "new game" or there would be an agruement and it would be forgotten. Once Kate stripped and realised what they were trying to do she soon joined in with them. (don't really blame her). I didn't watch the C4 show last night, did they show them throwing her clothes into the middle of the room?
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:27
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[quote]Originally posted by Dee Girl
Jade's manipulation of housemates and public? [/b][/QUOTE

Of the Public? Hows that then?]
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:29
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I do have my worries about Jade but find it difficult to believe the pyschologists wouldnt have picked up on this ....
I'm still failing to see how you can assume that Jade is mentally incapacitated. As you said Mentally handicapped people can be taught tasks - Jade is a dental nurse not a librarian she doesn't stack books on shelves she actually works with a dentist who performs invasive procedures on patients who are generally nervous to say the least. To have a nurse who was in any way shape or form mentally unstable would be severely detrimental to any dentists practice.

There is nothing wrong with Jade and I'm sure she would find your allegations insulting to say the least. She is a bubbly outspoken strong willed young woman who is comfortable with the person that she is regardless of what the other HM's may think of her and uses her strengths (i.e. her babyish charms) to manipulate her opponents in an attempt to win the prize money after 10 long and dull weeks in the BB compound.

I for one hope she does not see your accusations - if it were me I'd be hugely insulted....
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:31
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[quote]Originally posted by Lboogs
Originally posted by Dee Girl
Jade's manipulation of housemates and public?
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Of the Public? Hows that then?] [/b]
She thinks that her new leaf (ie no more bitching) will change our opinion - no luck there then...
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:34
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


I'm still failing to see how you can assume that Jade is mentally incapacitated. As you said Mentally handicapped people can be taught tasks - Jade is a dental nurse not a librarian she doesn't stack books on shelves she actually works with a dentist who performs invasive procedures on patients who are generally nervous to say the least. To have a nurse who was in any way shape or form mentally unstable would be severely detrimental to any dentists practice.

There is nothing wrong with Jade and I'm sure she would find your allegations insulting to say the least. She is a bubbly outspoken strong willed young woman who is comfortable with the person that she is regardless of what the other HM's may think of her and uses her strengths (i.e. her babyish charms) to manipulate her opponents in an attempt to win the prize money after 10 long and dull weeks in the BB compound.

WHAT accusations ????????
I stated that I have my "worries"over Jade ....

and **ALSO** stated that I'd find it hard to believe that the pschs would have let her through unless she was anything but normal

My WORRIES stem from the way she is being portrayed ....

I for one hope she does not see your accusations - if it were me I'd be hugely insulted....
WHAT accusations ????????
I stated that I have my "worries"over Jade ....

and **ALSO** stated that I'd find it hard to believe that the pschs would have let her through unless she was anything but normal

My WORRIES stem from the way she is being portrayed ....
I simply think you were abit harsh "attacking" the previous poster on her use of an example ....
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Old 10-07-2002, 16:58
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Originally posted by spearish


I do have my worries about Jade but find it difficult to believe the pyschologists wouldnt have picked up on this ....
I'm curious as to just how indepth do their psychs get, how often do they meet the HMs before the show and how long is each session. My guess is they give very little time to evaluate them.
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Old 10-07-2002, 17:13
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


I'm still failing to see how you can assume that Jade is mentally incapacitated. As you said Mentally handicapped people can be taught tasks - Jade is a dental nurse not a librarian she doesn't stack books on shelves she actually works with a dentist who performs invasive procedures on patients who are generally nervous to say the least. To have a nurse who was in any way shape or form mentally unstable would be severely detrimental to any dentists practice.

Jade's behaviour is not that of any 21 year old I have ever met but is much the same as every young child I've known.

Librarians do not merely stack books on shelves, there's a lot more to it than that but that is neither here not there. The nurse who stands at the side of my dentist is a nice lass but thick as two short planks. She does not perform any kind of surgery, that's the dentists job. She is extremely nice and very kind, makes me feel at ease whilst the dentist prepares my sedative - I'm terrified of the dentist - however, if I thought for one minute this lass would do any kind of "invasive procedures" on me, I'd be out of there like a shot lol.

Jade could, of course, be the best actress I've ever seen
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Old 10-07-2002, 17:18
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


I'm still failing to see how you can assume that Jade is mentally incapacitated. As you said Mentally handicapped people can be taught tasks - Jade is a dental nurse not a librarian she doesn't stack books on shelves she actually works with a dentist who performs invasive procedures on patients who are generally nervous to say the least. To have a nurse who was in any way shape or form mentally unstable would be severely detrimental to any dentists practice.

There is nothing wrong with Jade and I'm sure she would find your allegations insulting to say the least.
Just for the record, my Central London dental nurse does little more than fill the water glass and hold the sucky-stick once it has been placed in position. She speaks very little English, but has a lovely smile, so I forgive her.
She is largely there for insurance reasons.

Re your second point, I think Jade finds lots of things which are entirely true to be insulting. Fortunately she does not shape reality.
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Old 10-07-2002, 17:24
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Jade wanted to be seen naked on national TV imo. I have nothing against her for that, and nothing against any of them for letting it happen.

She's not a child, she's a grown woman. None of the guys and especially Kate, should be getting any stick for this.
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Old 10-07-2002, 17:41
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The strip was a very tawdry spectacle indeed, but like it or not (and I don't!) the gutter press exists and all the participants of BB were aware of this before they entered the house. Unfortunately, along with the 15 minutes of fame the hms get from going on BB (and lets face it that's what they all went in there for), you are going to get all sorts of awful stories in the press - it's the nature of the beast. What a lot of people seem to be forgetting is THEY PUT THEMSELVES UP FOR IT - and therefore are responsible for any flack they get. This isn't unwarranted media intrusion into some anonymous persons private life - from the moment they went into that house their lives, and their actions, became public property. Unfortunately for them they are going to have to live with the consequences.
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Old 10-07-2002, 17:42
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Old 11-07-2002, 13:08
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Jade knew was she was doing , so she deserves everything she gets.........
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Old 11-07-2002, 13:16
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Originally posted by gazza71
Jade wanted to be seen naked on national TV imo. I have nothing against her for that, and nothing against any of them for letting it happen.

She's not a child, she's a grown woman. None of the guys and especially Kate, should be getting any stick for this.
Well said. Her choice, her resposibilty and I would defend to the hilt her right to make her own choices. And anyone else for that matter Doesn't mean I have to like it tho'
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Old 11-07-2002, 13:23
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no..she doesnt deserve it!. she does not deserve to have her name vilified on the press, she doesnt deserve the prospect of morons attacking her in the street when shes out, or the harrasment her and her family are going to suffer.
she took part in a bloody game show thats all!. My god, she bitched about people!!, cmon...a lot of people do that every day in offices up and down the country, its hardly a capital offence.
yes..its bad, but its not criminal!.
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:08
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Originally posted by Dee Girl


They were all well p*ssed by then it is normal behaviour to try push someone over the edge when intoxicated - whether they choose to do so or not is entirely up to them.

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What utter rubbish.
So if I get pissed and morose and state I'm gonna top myself you'd say "Well that's entirely up to you". On second thoughts you'd probably assist by 'pushing me over the edge'.
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Old 12-07-2002, 04:49
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One of the reasons (for Jade doing strip), could be that for some reason the housemates have recently started to forget the presence of cameras. It has not been consistent. Maybe some psychological milestone has been passed ( similar to cabin-fever). Not to say they forget completely, but just a lessened awareness. Plus they had been drinking.

Jade was also under pressure, since she must hav sensed that most of the housemates didnt have high opinions of her.

But, whatever reason, Jade has got to know that this sort of thing is not something that is learned by trial and error or experience. Playing a drinking game based on general knowledge/quick thinking, involving taking off of clothes just isnt for her. especially on national tv.
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Old 12-07-2002, 06:32
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Was I the only one who noticed that the boys (PJ & Jonny) were plotting to get Kate naked and pretty much said they wanted to see her naked. Jonny especially implied that everyone would be naked by the end of the game bar the winner.

I for one am tired of the overdone Jade friendly C4 coverage which portrayed her a victim obmitting her attempt to pull Alex's clothes off, Kate's attemps to cover her up, or Kate down to bra and knickers in the first round of their drinking/stripping game or Jade being allowed to get extra layers of clothing for the second round - all off which made it look like all the housemates were ganging up on Jade more than they were, not to mention a good four hours or so of Jade bashing which was reduced to "Last night Alex told Kate what Lee, Sandy and other housemates had said about her in the past" as sufficent explanation as to why Kate was in tears the next morning.

Despite Jade's promise to become a reformed character her behavior has changed little on E4 but on the channel 4 highlights they are doing everything they can to gain sympathy.

As a final thought why is it every time it looks like Jade is going to have a major row (first with Sophie then with Kate) Mr Miyagi steps in and diffuses it.
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