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Ivan Kisses Paul
cian
15-11-2005
i cant belive it - ivan is gay !
Lozzie85
15-11-2005
I know For some reason or other, i thought he was going to kiss Danny... but, It's Ivan..
lyndielou
15-11-2005
Wellllllllllllllll I never saw that coming
chec2k
15-11-2005
He was married before, right?
fimbo1977
15-11-2005
Is it just me who's getting sick of the whole soap gay thing? I'm not anti-gay, but every soap seems to feel obliged to have a gay storyline every so often. For a small yorkshire village emmerdale seems to have a lot of gay residents. First there was Zoe, and what was even more bizarre was that practically every woman she ever met or had working for her miraculosuly became gay too! Now we have Paul and Ivan; Paul fair enough has always been obviously gay, but Ivan!?!? And the lesbian mayor!
Eastenders is doing another gay thing now with Sonia. Corrie had Todd.
Its all soooo boring, banging the same drum again. If soaps want to throw in the odd gay character, fine, but why do they have to keep repeating this old storyline of somebody suddenly becoming gay.
Drifter
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by fimbo1977:
“but why do they have to keep repeating this old storyline of somebody suddenly becoming gay.”

I don't see how they are. Ivan has only been there six months or less, and hasn't featured much, so he's hardly "suddenly" become gay. In fact he's actually bi...

Jason arrived gay more or less, as did Paul.
CelticStar
15-11-2005
That's as ridiculous as saying let's not have any more straight romances because they've all been done a zillion times before. Every relationship is different surely?
~charlie-lou~
15-11-2005
I saw the Ivan/Paul thing coming a mile off.

I had been hoping it would be someone really unlikely.

Shadrach LOL.

No but seriously, it was too predictable IMHO.
Drifter
15-11-2005
Well who else can it be without being totally stupid? Danny maybe, but that could be seen as predictable as well.

I don't think this is designed to shock or surprise, it's just another bloke being gay and getting with Paul...
Lippincote
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by fimbo1977:
“Is it just me who's getting sick of the whole soap gay thing? I'm not anti-gay, but every soap seems to feel obliged to have a gay storyline every so often. .”

How do you mean, soaps feel obliged to? They have gay characters because gay people exist. Why should there be any objection to, or boredom with, that?

If Paul's getting some action, I'm pleased for him I just hope Sean gets lucky in Corrie too.
Kontroversial
15-11-2005
Don't put spoilers in your title threads please! But it was predictable that the kiss would be between Paul and someone else - I never thought Ivan though!
fimbo1977
15-11-2005
I think a lot of it is disproportionate though and all part of the PC thing.
I read in the weekend papers complaints about there not being enough ethnic minority characters in soaps; now, that may be a different point, as in some soaps it seems there are more gay characters than ethnic minorities, when in real life there will be more ethnic minority people.

That said, its all relative. Arguably Eastenders should have more asian characters to reflect the reality of ethnic diversity in London. Likewise Neighbours - in a Melbourne suburb there would likely be a range of ethnic groups.
*Fluffy*
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by fimbo1977:
“Is it just me who's getting sick of the whole soap gay thing?”

Yep! Just you :yawn: .......

ANYWAY .........

Toni is gonna feel a total dumbass, don't you think? She has a zeppelin sized crush on Paul then sleeps with Ivan then finds out Paul and Ivan have gotten together? OOOOPS!
DenWatts
15-11-2005
Originally Posted by Lippincote:
“How do you mean, soaps feel obliged to? They have gay characters because gay people exist. Why should there be any objection to, or boredom with, that?

If Paul's getting some action, I'm pleased for him I just hope Sean gets lucky in Corrie too.”

Well said!

And obviously, fimbo has no idea how comforting wimmin can be.
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