Jade currently blubbing to Jonny about PJ having told her that people have accused her of bad mouthing him - she really genuinely seems not to realise that she says things about people. How can we judge her harshly for being self deluded? When/if she'd evicted, I hope people don't decide to boo her as she doesn't need that...she does need to grow up and take note of what she says, but booing won't make that happen

The thing is, I can't remember her saying anything bad about PJ. I know she's said bad things about Kate, Alex and Jonny.

Nope I dont either... the only thing where as far as I am aware she mentionned PJ, when was she said to Alex that PJ and Spencer were making him look like a fool...

I dont remember anyone telling to PJ that she backstabbed him either...

Funny caus he's prob the one that she'd have the most reasons to bitch about but there.... have never said the girl made sense...

Mireille

I dont remeber her saying anything bad about PJ either , and I believe that the bad mouthing she did about the other 3 was under Alex's influence....

And its always Alex telling the others what Jade has supposed to have said about them.

Alex told him.... say no more..

He's done it once, with Kate, again as far as I am aware... and dnt think he was the instigator of the bitching, Jade well able to do it by herself... and with adele, but anyhow, that's of subject, am sure you'll find plenty of anti alex threads to post that in, lets not change that one into one...

well have missed that... my apologies...

You can't put Jade's bitching onto Alex. When she was at her worst about Sophie, she was the one who initiated it everytime

OK, trying to remember specific instances and can't...besides the comment about Spencer and PJ setting Alex up...maybe I'm the one deluding myself that Jade's said things she can't remember?

PJ's point was not so much about things she may or may not have said about him, but unfortunately that seems to be what she's focused on and missed his general point about how she's been with (just about) everyone...

...as the housemates just pointed out, she is ill so now I feel bad for having judged her!

I can't remember, but I think she nominated PJ once, if this is the case anyone remember what was her reason for nominating him?

correct we can't put jade's bitching on to alex..she was responsible
we can't put alex's bitching onto anyone he was responsible and still is
the same goes for pj ,tim,kate and jonny
only problem i have is that they are all continually doing it to jade ...they are all backstabbers...noone is standing out as nice .
eg, jade just told pj she is missing her family to which pj said "we've heard it all b4"...nice one pj...would he have been as foul to kate ?i don't think so !

the answer is she never did...

PJ isn't doing himself any favours with his comments in the living area. Depending on the way it is edited tomorrow, people could sympathise with Jade and hate PJ more.

Jade must be aware of what she is doing with all her bitchiness and backstabbing.
No-one else is doing it for her : It's that simple.
Please see Jade for what she is : A nasty piece of work.
After nice Adele's shocking reception, I find it difficult to think that everyone will be nice to Jade on eviction night.

Agreed, l think PJ is trying to distance himself from Jade because of the chants the other week as he is now up for nomination and he's probably worried about the Jade haters. l didn't think l would say this but l feel sorry for Jade.

grrrr am missing it all...

Must say I find it surprising.... PJ has always been so careful, he's not one to get carried over to easily normally... he did it with alex once, but made up the day after, there it's the 2nd time in a short period...

Do you think he might be worried to have appeared too boring? he has mentionned a few times that he hasnt done much in the house etc...

Dunno... what got him started the first time? what did alex say that jade said about PJ? (sorry that's v. bad english...)

Mireille

In danger of turing this into a pro-Jade thread *shudder*, but did anyone see her on the couch last night when PJ was joking about what would it be like if someone in the house got up to some real sex out on the lawn etc?

As I understand the "PJBJ" incident, they went to bed drunk and naked, PJ can remember kissing and trying to get her to do things, Jade can remember about the same - BUT, when Jade saw the psychologist, it seemed he'd told her that they did much more than that which she told Adele "I can't remember any-fin abahrt! *sob*"

Seeing her face as PJ joked about that I felt for her (!) as she seemed to me to be obviously thinking about that and wanting to say something, but she kept quiet....for the sake of a stupid drunken grope that she can't even remember now she knows she'll be seen badly, but she knows PJ doesn't remember or is denying it...that must hurt so much...

...I sympathise with PJ snapping at her now though too as 7 weeks in the house with Jade would be too much for me too!

I think PJ has went over the top with his attitude towards Jade, he virtually told her to F*** off again today, i think he's been to harsh on her. I'm not a fan of Jade, but i'm really feeling sorry for her, i don't think she should be in that house any longer. She's definately not mentally up to this.

She is basically saying she doesn't fit in any more, that she no longer feels comfotable in the house or close to any of the remaining housemates.

The others are talking about her in the lounge and are basically saying the same thing - that Jade's Big Brother experience, by all accounts, is OVER.

I agree. At first Jade irritated the hell out of me and week 1 I'd have had her out the door. Then she was interesting and seemed to add something to the house and she was having fun, but now everyone in the house is finding her irritating (Jonny and others comments about them having made the wrong decision in week 1!), and Jade isn't dealing with things well either...she seems to have stopped having fun most of the time, she feels alienated and alone in there.

I've had times when I thought she was horrid, times when I thought she's an evil game playing schemer who's only acting dumb, and now I think she's a young girl with a LOT of growing up to do.

....wouldn't it be great if she was evicted and she switched to being a posh speaking, genius who announced on eviction "Sorry guy's, you lot are all so gullible to have thought I could really be so stupid, I tried to play the game and it didn't work, but who cares I have my career in astro-physics to get back to now"

I've got a funny feeling that the public will soon experience a sort of 'collective amnesia' when it comes to some of Jade's previous in-house antics if the current trend of HM's slagging her of 'big style' continues..........me thinks Miss Goody might be heading home with £70,000 tucked away in her back pocket!

LOL! That would be wonderful!

oh yes now I remember, it was Tim she nominated not PJ.

I alternate between being very irritated by & feeling pity for Jade but at the end of the day, what goes around comes around & as my Manchester friend's nan used to say "be nice to the people you meet on the way up the ladder as you'll pass them on your way back down" or something like that! Anyway, we've witnessed the rises & falls of Jade & I think the money should be split between all those who've had to live with her for the last few weeks because I couldn't have done so for twice the amount!
And she's supposed to be feeling really ill but she's back in the sitting area again!

Good advice always...

To be fair to Jade, she's had the miracle cure of the mystic Lemsip now so she's bound to be feeling chipper!