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Old 11-07-2002, 21:04
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People have forgotten why Jade is so unpopular is because channel 4 have gone out of their way to make her look a sweet, naive, innocent person these last 2 weeks.

The way the argument with PJ was edited was very unfair imo. He was only saying what the rest of us have been thinking for 3 weeks, but it came over like he went out of his way to upset her.
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:09
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pj's treatment of jade since the divide came down has had very little airing ,unless you have e4 you blink ,you miss it. he and the other hms have been as bad as jade , worse as they are doing it still.
pj is totally 2 faced as he only likes jade when he wants her to do his washing etc. she is so desperate to please him that she forgives him every time and becomes "a mug"..her words.
he needs to go and then perhaps some of the hms might let up on jade
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:16
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Originally posted by 0utlaw


I think you read posts too literally, no Jade did'nt win the offical most disliked award but if you asked 99.9% of BB viewers or even the average member of the public, there opinion of Jade would be the same and I don' t think I have to go into what that was.

I think some people have been watching too much V Graham Norton and have now forgot the reasons they disliked Jade in the 1st place. There was a newspaper article discussing how BB editing can sway the weaker minded viewers, I think this is whats happened here.

LadyKnight thanks for the offer but I think ill pass....
Will you PLEASE stop making up statistics and presenting them as facts!

LK - will try not to read posts too literally in future. If someone will just tell me how
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:21
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Originally posted by nelly-j
what thread do you want to start pinelands, if you write it here along with your opinion on the subject i will cut and paste it on a new thread for you.
Thanks so much, I would like the thread to read "Give Jade a chance!" and would like my previous comments to appear...

You know, I never thought that I would say it but I am warming to Jade.

I have to respect her for getting naked the other night, she thought she was playing by the rules and entertaining everyone.

I loved Kate, Alex and PJ (Jonny and Tim don't even rate with me) but after they let her do that the other night I don't think that any of them deserve to win.

They knew how drunk Jade was and they encouraged her to do it maliciously and with the only intention of her making a complete fool of herself.

To make matters worse they then encouraged her to go the diary room naked!!!!

What kind of people do that?

Respect to Jade for being able to hold her head up and not hold it against anyone.

Don't get me wrong, I know that Jade should'nt have done it, is an adult and responsible for her own actions but there is no excuse for the others behaviour.

On top of all that she is fully aware that no one likes her, has heard chanting from outside "Get Jade out!" and has faced eviction yet she just carries on and doesn't give up like some people twice her age (Sandy)

I can't believe that I am saying this but as much as she irritates me and makes me want to reach into the TV some times to tell her to keep quite and listen to people and stop interrupting I respect her and think she deserves a chance.

I just read another post about BBLB tonight and how they got the public to pay for the most "comical" moment so far. I was shocked to see that the "comical" moment wasn't Jade stripping but Kate's reaction to it!!!!

How manipulative are they?

Anyone agree?
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:22
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Did we forget?.....the slight change in Jades behaviour came about right after the ‘meeting ‘ with the C4 shrink.

That coupled with the incredibly biased C4 coverage and you have the new Mother Teresa....errr or is it Sherlock Holmes?

Sorry Jade......You’re still ‘orrid.
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:25
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Originally posted by doodad
Did we forget?.....the slight change in Jades behaviour came about right after the ‘meeting ‘ with the C4 shrink.

That coupled with the incredibly biased C4 coverage and you have the new Mother Teresa....errr or is it Sherlock Holmes?

Sorry Jade......You’re still ‘orrid.
EXACTLY! But then try explaining that to some of the people on here....
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:27
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if c4 were biased in favour of jade so you think they would have shown the disgusting clip of the hms degrading jade . they made out it was all innocent frolics ...i watched it live it wasn't funny and the way c4 are portraying it most certainly isn't pro jade.
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:32
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Originally posted by nelly-j
if c4 were biased in favour of jade so you think they would have shown the disgusting clip of the hms degrading jade . they made out it was all innocent frolics ...i watched it live it wasn't funny and the way c4 are portraying it most certainly isn't pro jade.
The majority of people who watched that probaly felt the same as you, sorry for Jade. So I definately would'nt call that anti Jade editing.
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:33
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certainly isn't pro jade.

Then again, if it was would you all be so quick to leap to her aid?
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:43
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Originally posted by doodad
certainly isn't pro jade.

Then again, if it was would you all be so quick to leap to her aid?
I am not leaping to her aid. I'd probably break a leg or ankle if I did. Not saying I am clumsy or anything but ......

I am just fed up with people saying they 'hate' a young lady that they don't actually know - just watch in an extremely stressful situation, where her worst character traits are magnified.

I am sick of people harping on about how she looks. She didn't have much say in the matter.

Her size - good lord she's not exactly Bessie Bunter. Size 16 is the average size of women in the UK .

I imagine me in the house and what people would say about me too tall, too boring, cant cook much, (but I try hard), crap clothes, wont join in with stripping games, sits around looking bored, shifty, not being herself, totally not able to go to the loo knowing the cameras are watching ......

I could go on and on but you get the idea
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:47
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Originally posted by LadyKnight


I am not leaping to her aid. I'd probably break a leg or ankle if I did. Not saying I am clumsy or anything but ......

I am just fed up with people saying they 'hate' a young lady that they don't actually know - just watch in an extremely stressful situation, where her worst character traits are magnified.

I am sick of people harping on about how she looks. She didn't have much say in the matter.

Her size - good lord she's not exactly Bessie Bunter. Size 16 is the average size of women in the UK .

I imagine me in the house and what people would say about me too tall, too boring, cant cook much, (but I try hard), crap clothes, wont join in with stripping games, sits around looking bored, shifty, not being herself, totally not able to go to the loo knowing the cameras are watching ......

I could go on and on but you get the idea


me too ladyknight...all the above except i would have had 2 kids in tow as have no babysitters.
although perhaps me taking the kids on bb would give me an advantage as a lot of peeps like the hms acting like little kiddies and being petulant etc....... can feel the £70k in my grasp......
wakes up and realises all a dream ,
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:52
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Originally posted by LadyKnight


Her size - good lord she's not exactly Bessie Bunter. Size 16 is the average size of women in the UK .
You know, I am about Jade's size (except not as brown) and really respect her for being proud of herself and not having any insecurities! I couldn't do that, I have too many complexes!
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Old 11-07-2002, 21:55
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LK,

I don’t hate Jade, nor do I think her fat or particularly ugly.

But she is 21 years of age, That’s old enough to drive an HGV (god forbid) and I fail to see how any HM ‘humiliated’ her, other than herself of course and although I don’t agree with the ‘pig’ style witch hunt I equally don’t agree with excusing vile behaviour just because it’s Jade.

Sorry Jade, you’re still ‘orrid
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Old 11-07-2002, 22:22
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On the Channel 4 BB Jade's been weeping her way to £70000 again - I love the way she keeps looking for the camera to make sure she's being noticed.......
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Old 11-07-2002, 22:45
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After Kate, Jonny and Alex let her do what she did? Yes, because they are her mother and father and she is a 9 year old...

Give me a break - the girl wanted to take her clothes off.

I've always thought her treatment from papers was unfair, but what pisses me off is that she's getting popular not by the way she's behaving in that house, but because of the sympathy for her...

Whilst the I feel the press have gone overboard with her, I still think people should remember why people didn't like her in the first place...

The only reason she was crying yesterday is because no one is prepared to listen to her bitch and make nasty comments about others. That's all she knows how to do, and that's why no one pays her the slightest bit of attention. It could be worse Jade... They could be pulling pig faces behind your back... Oh no! Only people like Jade make faces behind peoples backs - remember?
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Old 11-07-2002, 22:50
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Why on earth are people making such a big fuss over the stripping game the other night? Have people forgotten the pictures which were in the Daily Sport etc a week or so back? She's obviously not a stranger to doing that sort of thing for the cameras.

As has been mentioned, she's now upset because people aren't keen on talking to her. Now, who's fault is that? It's Jade's herself, as everybody is now aware that anything they may say to her could be twisted and told to somebody else.

She may act the poor, innocent, young fool but she is 21, and obviously has some intelligence (she's a dental nurse after all). She is also only a year or two younger than a few of the others in the house.

I'm not one of these people who wishes any harm to the girl, but she's made her own bed, now she has to lie in it.
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Old 11-07-2002, 23:41
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Originally posted by gazza71
The only reason she was crying yesterday is because no one is prepared to listen to her bitch and make nasty comments about others. That's all she knows how to do, and that's why no one pays her the slightest bit of attention. It could be worse Jade... They could be pulling pig faces behind your back... Oh no! Only people like Jade make faces behind peoples backs - remember?

How much clearer can anyone phrase it?

Has the world gone mad? Has everyone really forgotten already what an nasty manipulative little minx she is?

Remember her packing her bags and telling everyone she was gonna leave? Just like every other trick she pulls it has one and one only intent --- to get her own way.

Of course they MADE her strip. What total b*ll*cks is that? No doubt kate PJ Jonny and Alex went round her house before the show to get the pictures for the sun too ;o)


She is a truly terrible role model for young girls. Supporting her now (instead of letting her know how horrible she has been) sends what sort of messge? You don't have to be good/adult to get on just throw a tantrum. Sheesh

I don't want to risk being shown her "kebab" again thank you very mch


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Old 12-07-2002, 00:02
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She is a truly terrible role model for young girls. Supporting her now (instead of letting her know how horrible she has been) sends what sort of messge? You don't have to be good/adult to get on just throw a tantrum. Sheesh
In comparison to PJ as a role model for young men, Jade is positively exemplary!!

And at least she is able to admit her faults!!!

Plus she is a hell of a lot better than some of the other women who make it appear that a woman's role is to slime up to every man around - even Alex (ugghh!!)

Anyway she is gonna win, so get used to it.
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Old 12-07-2002, 00:31
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* you may not like her personality but at least she HAS one, unlike the other remaining HMs;


Alex, Jonny, Kate and even Tim all have fine personalities. They can all be funny at times knowingly, Jade - the world laughs at her, not with her.


* she is the only HM who has shown enough humilty to admit her mistakes and apologise (to Sophie);


After a 90 minute session with a psychoterapist who told her to stop being a bitch. She continued to slag other people off afterwards. She still denies that she has ever done this.



* she has shown a lot of courage and tenacity to deal with a lot of hard times throughout the show, and has never been tempted to throw the towel in;


It's been no harder for her than anyone else.


* she has been used by other HMs to spread poison (Adele even admitted this);


She was used by Adele, and only Adele.


* she is now being bullied by all the other HMs;


No, she was the bully, she is now stuck, because she's got no one to bitch to.


* they all (even Kate) colluded in humilating her by getting her to strip;

She's 21 years old and only a daily star reader would think that the other housemates were the ones who made her strip. She stripped because she wanted the attention. When Kate tried to cover her up, she told her to get lost. She wanted to do it.


* the money would be genuinely life-changing for her;

Nonsense. As if you know hers or anyone elses financial needs.


* she is the only HM who has actually grown in the house;

Yes, about half a stone.


* she is the only HM who has actually gained some insight into her faults;

Only because she had so bloody many.


* she has entertained us all for the last few weeks (who else can we say that about, except Alison?);

Alison? She's been entertaining, but so have all of them left for me personally.


* arrogant little sh*ts like PJ, Alex and Tim would be SOOOO pissed off that it will be a joy to see their faces when she wins.

I'd be pissed off... Why? Because rewarding a girl who has been so nasty and come out with such bollocks with 70,000 just makes me ill. Any faults she has realised she has will soon be washed away with new found fame. She'll be a better person when she comes out and sees what she's really like.


Like I said... Channel 4 - you've done a master job with Jade. Unbelievable. The editors deserve the money.
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Old 12-07-2002, 00:32
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Originally posted by petergoat


In comparison to PJ as a role model for young men, Jade is positively exemplary!!

YES YES YES

How many people on here who have read my post's think its strange that I totally agree!


LK - still with her cowpats at the ready for PJ's coming out party !
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Old 12-07-2002, 07:29
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Originally posted by LadyKnight
nelly and LK continue on our

'Jade isn't that bad' quest

errrr just because I work nights dont exclude me

You can add spearish to that
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Old 12-07-2002, 07:54
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* she has shown a lot of courage and tenacity to deal with a lot of hard times throughout the show, and has never been tempted to throw the towel in;

<<Remember her playing for attention, packing her bags, blubbing to the HMs, blubbing in the diary room, >>

She did threaten to leave: she sure as hell was never going to go through with it.



<<she is now being bullied by all the other HMs;
No, she was the bully, she is now stuck, because she's got no one to bitch to.>>

Indeed so. She is not being bullied: the other HMs are simply repeating themselves until she pauses long enough to listen.



<<I'd be pissed off... Why? Because rewarding a girl who has been so nasty and come out with such bollocks with 70,000 just makes me ill. Any faults she has realised she has will soon be washed away with new found fame. She'll be a better person when she comes out and sees what she's really like.>>
Her "transformation" in the house goes well beyond what a psche could get her to realise within a 2-h chat. Unless of course the psyche was actively coaching her based on outside knowlege rather than being the passive ear.



<<Like I said... Channel 4 - you've done a master job with Jade. Unbelievable. The editors deserve the money. >>
She is Helen2: they can't let that slip from the script ...
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Old 12-07-2002, 08:42
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errrr just because I work nights dont exclude me

You can add spearish to that
sorry spearish, you can be huggy to our starsky and hutch...lol
jade to win
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Old 12-07-2002, 08:48
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Jade to Win?
I am shocked and very surprised at this thread, and really feel sorry for all the people agreeing that Jade should win.
It is a sad reflection on our society these days that people can be so lightwieght and have such a short memory span, as to vote for such a nasty horrible person.
Yes, no doubt I will get various posts slagging ME off for my point of view, but remember it is only MY point of view.
JADE TO BE EVICTED NEXT WEEK.
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Old 12-07-2002, 10:07
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Jade to Win?
I am shocked and very surprised at this thread, and really feel sorry for all the people agreeing that Jade should win.
It is a sad reflection on our society these days that people can be so lightwieght and have such a short memory span, as to vote for such a nasty horrible person.
Yes, no doubt I will get various posts slagging ME off for my point of view, but remember it is only MY point of view.
JADE TO BE EVICTED NEXT WEEK.
You are fully entitled to your point of view
My reasons for voting for Jade are that I think this has been a real learning curve for Jade ...mixing with people from all walks of life in such an enviroment may make her see that her behaviour has been unnaceptable.She professes to want to improve and change herself and I being the type that has faith in human nature want her to have the money to help her do that .
having watched the other HM's ..none of whom have displayed exactly pleasant behaviour in the last week ...but who all feel they have nothing wrong to change .
I simply feel Jade should have it ....The hate and bad press she alone has recieved means she'd get it in my book simply to redress the balance
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