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spoon
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Spud Father

I am shocked and very surprised at this thread, and really feel sorry for all the people agreeing that Jade should win.
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Hear Hear,

Jade is not AS bad in the house at the moment because she has isloated herself from the rest of the group by doing their heads in by being very hard work. She has noone to play with because she has isloated herself. It hasn't stopped all the attention seeking behaviour though.

So in what was does she deserve to win? - because we feel sorry for her? why she hasn't improved as a person - she may not be as bad as people where making out a few weeks ago but Jade herself hasn't changed much since then - its just that coverage of her has.

Or maybe she deserves to win because having p*ssed everyone she lives with off we had better give her some sympathy...?

I really don't get this sudden Jade should win thing - yes the hate coverage was well over the top and I'm glad people recognize this but the calming down of the coverage does not make Jade a better person.
spoon
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by spearish


may make her see that her behaviour has been unnaceptable.
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Her winning will send the clear message - your behaviour is COMPLETELY acceptable - she will assume that the reactions of her housemates was because they didn't like her or 'cos they where jealous and carry on regardless.

Rewarding bad behaviour encourages it .
Spud Father
12-07-2002
Excellent post "Spoon"
numpty
12-07-2002
Sing this to the tune of ICE ICE BABY.
>
> Alright STOP! Put down your food and listen
> Jade is downstairs in the kitchen
> Jade grabs a hold of all the food tightly
> Eats it non stop, daily and nightly
> Will she ever stop, yoh I don't know
> Do we give a sh t? I don't think so
> To the extreme she eats her food like a vandal
> On her birthday cake she even eats the candles
>
>
> Dance, or rather waddle I think
> She eats everything but the kitchen sink
> Deadly, when she walks the earth begins to shake
> Pig Face is the cause of every single earthquake
> Love her or leave her, she'd better lose weight
> She'd better start dieting before it's too late
> Jade's got a problem, someone solve it
> Check out her flab while her poor legs revolve it
>
> Fat fat Jadey Dum Dum Dum der der Dum Dum..................
>
petergoat
12-07-2002
WHAT has Jade done that is unpleasant? Only ONE thing, which was to bitch about Sophie, for which she had the magnanimity to apologise - something that no other housemate has been prepared to do.

Jade's winning would show that it is possible to succeed against the odds, no matter how humble your beginnings.

Compared with the shortcomings of the other HMs (except Alison) she comes off well ahead (yes, even Jonny, who is not such a bad bloke, but is very self-centred).

Momentum is building - she is going to win - and I cannot WAIT to see Tim's face when she beats him next week

PS And won't it be great for he SUN to have got it wrong AGAIN
Pushka
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by petergoat
WHAT has Jade done that is unpleasant? Only ONE thing, which was to bitch about Sophie, for which she had the magnanimity to apologise - something that no other housemate has been prepared to do.
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Actually what she said to Sophie was "Boo-hoo, I've behaved like a bitch, and it's all because you did this and you did that...blah blah blah..."<sniffs while waiting for real apology from Sophie...>

And she was told to by the psychologist.

Re other unpleasant things: referring to Asians in general as "Pakis", shouting over everyone, bullying Sophie - not just bitching but laughing in her face, telling Alex he deserved to be bullied too, describing Sophie and Kate as dogs, stripping off, and generally rude and dismissive behaviour.

Do you watch the show at all?
petergoat
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Pushka


Actually what she said to Sophie was "Boo-hoo, I've behaved like a bitch, and it's all because you did this and you did that...blah blah blah..."<sniffs while waiting for real apology from Sophie...>

And she was told to by the psychologist.

Re other unpleasant things: referring to Asians in general as "Pakis", shouting over everyone, bullying Sophie - not just bitching but laughing in her face, telling Alex he deserved to be bullied too, describing Sophie and Kate as dogs, stripping off, and generally rude and dismissive behaviour.

Do you watch the show at all?
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I certaily didn't hear her use the word "paki" - when was this?
Pushka
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by petergoat


I certaily didn't hear her use the word "paki" - when was this?
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It was reported on these boards as having happened back in mid-June. Alex was disgusted and she did a "Is it because I is black" routine on him, stating that she was officially one-eigth black due to a black (great?)-grandparent. This she felt gave her the right to say what she liked about black people. (Lee and Adele's faces were a picture).
E4 censored it as did C4 but the live internet feeds picked it up.
KimWim
12-07-2002
I still believe that Jade's behaviour in the house has been no better and no worse than anyone elses. I also never saw or heard Jade making a racist comment and at the time it appeared on these boards argued with people and asked for proof - but if Jade did use the term "paki" why is everyone being just as nasty about Tim whose comment were 50 times worse. I hear about his "ginger" hair and arrogance, but I find him a whole lot more 2-faced, nasty and obnoxious than Jade.

Alex(and Adele) when they were together talked nastily about everyone. I realise that Adele did most of the slagging but Alex was a partner in their gossiping and if he didn't agree or like Adele's viewpoint he should have distanced himself from her.

The comments made by Jade about PJ/Spenser if anything were observations and not slagging off - I have certainly not heard her say anything nasty about either and find PJ's treatment of her totally uncalled for.

Kate/PJ/Jonny slag Jade off constantly behind her back - and what they have said about her is a lot worse than she said about any of them. It was her that said she was prettier than Kate, it was Adele, Jade said she weren't all that and she had wonky teeth - well take her out and Stone her!!

I am sick and tired or reading and hearing this unrelenting tirade against Jade. I am in no way excusing her actions within the house and she will have to live with the public perception of her when she gets out. But come on people on this site appear to be educated people - why can't you leave the girl alone.

She's constantly said all along that she is learning things about herself daily - things she doesn't like - no other hm has admitted to this. And she has apologised to the relevant hm's for her behaviour - unlike any other HM.

I believee that without Jade this BB it would have been very boring. She has earnt the £70,000 and I think deserves it. She has done nothing the deserve this hate campaign.
KimWim
12-07-2002
I still believe that Jade's behaviour in the house has been no better or no worse than anyone elses. I also never saw or heard Jade making a racist comment and at the time it appeared on these boards I argued with people and asked for proof - but if Jade did use the term "paki" why isn't everyone being just as nasty about Tim whose comment were 50 times worse. I hear about his "ginger" hair and arrogance, but I find him a whole lot more 2-faced, nasty and obnoxious than Jade.

Alex(and Adele) when they were together talked nastily about everyone. I realise that Adele did most of the slagging but Alex was a partner in their gossiping and if he didn't agree or like Adele's viewpoint he should have distanced himself from her.

The comments made by Jade about PJ/Spenser if anything were observations and not slagging off - I have certainly not heard her say anything nasty about either and find PJ's treatment of her totally uncalled for.

Kate/PJ/Jonny slag Jade off constantly behind her back - and what they have said about her is a lot worse than she said about any of them. It was not Jade that said she was prettier than Kate, it was Adele, Jade said Kate "weren't all that" and she "had wonky teeth" - well take her out and Stone her!!

I am sick and tired or reading and hearing this unrelenting tirade against Jade. I am in no way excusing her actions within the house and she will have to live with the public perception of her when she gets out. But come on - the people on this site appear to be educated people - why can't you leave the girl alone.

She's constantly said all along that she is learning things about herself daily - things she doesn't like - no other hm has admitted to this. And she has apologised to the relevant hm's for her behaviour - unlike any other HM.

I believe that without Jade this BB it would have been very boring. She has earnt the £70,000 and I think deserves it. She has done nothing the deserve this hate campaign.
petergoat
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Pushka


It was reported on these boards as having happened back in mid-June. Alex was disgusted and she did a "Is it because I is black" routine on him, stating that she was officially one-eigth black due to a black (great?)-grandparent. This she felt gave her the right to say what she liked about black people. (Lee and Adele's faces were a picture).
E4 censored it as did C4 but the live internet feeds picked it up.
”

I am not at all sure that she used racist language like that - there is no proof that I know of. I do rememebr her saying she was mixed race, but not in not the way you put it!

If she did use the word "paki" I wouldnt be supporting her .. but until it is proven I still think she deserves to win ... and that she will!
LadyKnight
12-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by spearish


errrr just because I work nights dont exclude me
You can add spearish to that
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Sorry spearish ....... I won't ever forget you again.
Forgive me this once

LK used to work nights and hated it !
metafis
12-07-2002
KimWim.

Well said.
spearish
13-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by LadyKnight


Sorry spearish ....... I won't ever forget you again.
Forgive me this once

LK used to work nights and hated it !
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Geezzz I miss all the good debates

And by the time I do get on here havent slept for many hours so am like a bear with a sore head

Spearish ....tries to stay rational and unbiased
Al the Cynic
13-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by petergoat

If she did use the word "paki" I wouldnt be supporting her .. but until it is proven I still think she deserves to win ... and that she will!
”

Given the seriousness of the charge C4 could show the offending sequence unedited - but that would not be consistent with their "Save Helen" sheduling.

We will not be shown the evidence. A lot of the silences have been for matters of "taste" rather than anything to do with libel or privacy of outsiders. What you should be asking is why C4 chose to show Tim's "joke" but not to repeat Jade's "gaffe".

That is the real issue.
But face it though: it seems currently that Jade is forgiven everything. Nothing is her fault because she blubs ....
schwobble
13-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Angua
I suppose it was only a matter of time before this thread was started. If Jade wins BB, it will be the most indeserved win since Foinavon won the Grand National. (whoops, my age is showing). ”

Foinavon deserved to win! How about Michael Schumacher?

If Jade does win, I hope they can find a way not to give her the £70k, as it would kill her in a few months.
schwobble
13-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by spoon


Her winning will send the clear message - your behaviour is COMPLETELY acceptable - she will assume that the reactions of her housemates was because they didn't like her or 'cos they where jealous and carry on regardless.

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It wouldn't be a good day for society.

Like 'Men Behaving Badly' and 'Ally McBeal' I fear the point would be totally lost on a lot of people (i.e. she's supposed to be a comedy character, not a role model)...
nelly-j
13-07-2002
yet you seem to have forgiven the other hms for their treatment of jade...interesting....
most peeps who think jade has been sh*t on from a great height seem to think that all the hms inc jade are poor quality, just think that jade is the only one redeeming herself big style .
why is it that the peeps who support all the others never seem to address what their own fave is doing past and present.would make for a more valid arguement and maybe convert us.
i have said repeatedly that i liked kate to win until the naked "game" when she let herself down and has continued to do so......come on everyone you can't like their behaviour lately, surely????

nelly says hi to ladyknight and spearish....3 monkeys and all that !!!
daverol
13-07-2002
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“Originally posted by 0utlaw
I did'nt think Goldfish could access the internet? ”

Usually they are just presented on it via a webcam -- rather like big brother really. The askjade feature on the 'evictjade' website has shown how easy it is for a simple computer program to replicate Jades responses & I don't think the other housemates are far behind (especially that saddo tim)
daverol
13-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Richey
Why on earth are people making such a big fuss over the stripping game the other night? Have people forgotten the pictures which were in the Daily Sport etc a week or so back? She's obviously not a stranger to doing that sort of thing for the cameras.

”

Quite - I think that moment was the one where I thought that she had worked out how to play the game. There appeared to be a glimmer of intelligence behind the damaged child persona.
Plant
13-07-2002
Jade hasn't learnt anything from the experience. She nearly kicked off at Kate again last night though the sound was conveniently cut. The rest of the housemates have the patience of saints coping with her.

Jade has also decided to treat Adele as the scapegoat in all this saying she stabbed her in the back. That couldn't be anything to do with how Jade treated Adele could it? As usual everything is everyone elses fault and she is the poor innocent victim.
metafis
13-07-2002
and how did Jade treat Adele?.
all i saw was Adele suddenly cutting Jade off after Sophie went.
and bitching about Jade to the other HM's, clearly trying to influence nominations.

Jade is no worse than Alex or Tim for btching behind peoples backs, those 2 were at it again yesterday only minites after PJ had gone.
Plant
13-07-2002
Adele cutting off Jade?

Could be something to do with Jade telling Johnny that Adele and Alex had been talking about him playing up to the cameras without mentioning the fact that she (Jade) was the first one to bring this up and put it into their heads.

Maybe Adele realised Jade was going round spreading gossip and twisting everything that was being said and she had no qualms about doing it to her best friend in there.
mavis b sausage
13-07-2002
They won't show again/ give out the transcript of her outburst against Lee and Sophie either. 'I hate it, its disgusting, seeing a white girl putting her hand all over a black man' etc. I know it happened because I saw it but thanks to C4 I can't prove it.
Mavis
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