I actually got that !!

Hmm but do you know what storylines are planned? And if they are adding any better characters? We lost Karen McDonald who was super, now we have Keith Appleyard and Jessie and Joanne...




Missed the joke again

Crikey I am actually going to have to explain this to you.

This thread is a deliberate attempt to start an argument. You ask for the axing of a show based on your own opinions, and getting rid of a character. Fair enough if you don't. Say so. BUt don;t turn it into an argument.
You deliberately bring up Soap vs Soap. You deliberately try to bring in the ratings war...

You state "Corrie fans must face defeat in the face." It is all antagonistic nonsense. Even your supposed points against are sparse. The Wedding was three weeks ago, the writing is not sloppy, even if occasionally you might think the storylining is. And themention of the pig. This thread is an attempt to upset people. If you want to discuss certain issues such as the Dev story the go to one of the relevant threads...

Constructive enough for you...

No, it's just that you're new to this forum and perhaps don't understand how these 'discussion' threads suddenly turn into pure bickering threads.

I love your posts... always exactly what I'm thinking

Not specifically you actually said..

Finally, you replied with something worth reading!


As I've already said twice, it takes two to start an argument. If you think I am trying to argue with you, be mature and refuse to let me. But I am not, so stop worrying


"You state "Corrie fans must face defeat in the face.""


Can you quote me saying that as I can't remember saying those words. Thanks


Okay let me be constructive now, Nancy Leathers.

IMO Corrie has fallen dramatically

IMO EastEnders has improved dramatically

IMO The plots on Corrie are dreadful... try and cast your mind back to the Richard Hillman days and now cast your mind forward to the present and Keith Appleyard's pig

IMO Things need to be done


If you disagree, please debate with me maturely like an adult

I do not want an argument

Constructive enough for you?

You certainly have got people talking. By the way. Welcome to the forums!

But what has EastEnders risen from? Two years of truly awful storylines, yet it survived and it managed to come back. Compare Corrie now to EastEnders last year and Corrie is still miles ahead in terms of it not being as good as it has been. I agree it is in a bit of a lull but it's not in a disastorous state where it deserves the axe. Corrie will be on our screens for years to come certainly.

Thank you. Not much of a welcome but I will cope



I admit EastEnders has been in a nightmarish state for ages and during most of this period Corrie was super... But I'm afraid the tides have turned (IMO) and EastEnders is far superior - the viewing figures reflect this


Can someone find the rule in the Terms and Conditions which states "Users may not compare one soap to another"? I can't find it...

LOL... You HAVE got people talking... and for once it hasn't turned personal yet. Sorry... forgot to say welcome to the forums

LOL!!!

Well it appears Nancy Leathers has declined my offer of a mature, adult debate...


Oh, well.

Welcome MattPond by the way, I'm sure you'll find we're all very friendly, contorversial thread but I like a good debate which doesn't spiral into an argument.

Rude but OK,


I think I'll try so this is more than likely to be my last post in this thread. It takes two to argue, but only one to provooke which is I think the main reason why you originally posted.


No Problem



Corrie has fallen nowhere dramatically, that is poetic licence to try and put a point across. Eastenders has nothing to do with it and is only mentioned to get people's backs up. You compare a current aide storyline to a major plotline that lasted well over 18 months. What is the point in that. You can compare many things that clearly wouldn't match up. If you look at it with a little perspective then you would see that the pig storylinr has nothing to do with the general direction of the show at the moment.

IYO Things need to be done. That is not only your opinion but perhaps something slightly valid. There was an imbalance over the summer becaus ethe weightin of the storylines was thrown out by the unpopular Charlie Shelley stroy. Things are being done, and thing will be currently in motion. I'll agreed that things needed to be done and were.


OK please don't belittle me with these patronising comments. The initial meaning behind your thread was over the top and pushy. You call for the axing of Corrie when it is consistently at 11 million, so the ratings clearly don't matter to you, except when you bring in Eastenders. The quality of Eastender has nothing to do with that of Coronation Street (which many people have said time and time again.)

You don;t back anything up over the Dev storyline, you mention Keith's pig as if it is meant to turn heads. I really can;t see why you don't think you are trying to push people's buttons with this thread. I hope this has answered you questions because I really don;t think there is anything much left to discuss in this thread

Coronation street should not be axed, it is Britain's top soap.

I'm agreeing with Nancy, there has been hundreds of "axe Corrie" threads...just use the search fonction and add your reply to another thread (if it's a contructive reply.......).

:sleep:

Welcome.

If I were you, I would provide a stronger argument before creating threads which will no doubt lead to an argument.

Everyone can voice their opinion, but wouldn't it be better to call your thread 'Do you think Coronation Street should be axed', or 'I think Coronation Street should be axed' instead of 'Coronantion Street should be axed'?

Even though I don't like the Dev/Sunita saga that is not the only plot happening at the moment, and you have to admit Porky the Pig is a very minor plot.

Even if you like another Soap and dislkie Coronation Street I wouldn't go around declaring that it should end. Why not watch something else when it is on? Or go for a walk? Or make a brew? I mean it does get regually 11 million viewers (roughly the same as in 2003) so it can't have declined that much.

I can see your point however, I would just suggest you voice it in a different manner, people round here can be very trigger happy.

I'm sorry if I seem a little aggresive Matt, but you initial post was a little threatening without much back up. I do myself welcome you to the tread, but there are ways of discussing things without provoking people.

I'm sorry if i caused offence.

NB threatening is the wrong word, more antogonistic

I know you are not talking to me but Corrie is not Britain's favourite soap - neither is any. The majority of people have recently voted EastEnders over The Street. I also don't like bringing other soaps into it aswell. But i see your point. I hate all this EastEnders is the best. Corrie is the best. Emmerdale is the best - argument. There are other soaps around.

So you've said your piece now you're off? This IS NOT an argument unless you make it one

Well you should resist this invisible provocation :sleep:

I asked you to QUOTE something and you said "no problem". That is not a quote.

Now onto the topic in hand

Really? You're kidding... here was me thinking Corrie had actually FALLEN somewhere... :sleep:

It is another soap on British Television. They compete with eachother. Therefore I see no reason why I cannot compare them.

I'll repeat what I said before: "Can someone find the rule in the Terms and Conditions which states "Users may not compare one soap to another"? I can't find it... "
If you can direct me to this rule I would be very grateful. Thanks.

Okay then, I'll use the Shelly and Charlie storyline... IMO one of the worst plots in the 2000s era. I find myself enjoying the pig story more.

What is the general direction of the show? That is, what is it actually being driven along by? What characters? What plot?

Okay, is this enough: the guy who plays Dev is terrible, the storyline is filled with more holes than a sieve and its come from nowhere?

The amount of airtime it recieves I would have thought that was the intention yes.

Hi Chubbler

I agree with my title, I sadly cannot change it. Let it be known my true intention could have been better expressed

I also think you are right, it shouldn't end, it just needs sorting out NOW... they have turned it into a (bad) comedy. If it were comissioned now it would be axed after a few epiosdes... well I think so anyway. You should look at the title in a metophorical sense. Corrie in its current state needs AXING. We want the 2003-esque Corrie back... decent storylines.

What is frustrating me most is people being so vicious to me, when all I want is a good natured debate. I've already recieved a PM informing me that I will be banned - I've been here 5 minutes for crying out loud and if I'm banned then fine, I'll know this place is not a very nice place to be... unfair people and heavyhanded administrators. I'm sure this isn't the case though.

I poste your quote underneath my "No problem"



Yes it is another Soap on television but the only place they compete is for awards. They don;t appear on Tv at the same time so people can watch both and thus theyr clearly are not in competition for viewers. Mention when one Soap truly does effect another, but not when Corrie's quality isn;t really effect by EE's.


Soaps always have continuing stories, some are long burners, some are small storylines. If you really, and I mean really think the Dev story is full of holes discuss it in a DEv thread.

I'm stopping myself at this point. I really don't care anymore if yet another person hates Corrie. It doesn't make me hate it, and I'm tired of explaining myself in everyone of these threads as soon as the last one falls off the end of the first page. Enjoy your debate with those that have sadly more patience than me to explain themselves

Matt.. I don't think you should be banned Everyone has a view - and what is wrong with expressing it?

It's not a bad place... and I apologise for being one of the nasty people... the last few weeks on here have been over-run with people starting "Eastenders is the best", "Corrie is crap" etc... threads, which have just caused so much trouble... and if you didn't know, you weren't to know (if you get me), but you should also understand that people here are frustrated that this once excellent forum for intelligent debate has become like a playground as of late, and just assumed that yours was the latest in a long line of threads designed to cause an argument. *extends hand*

ITV and BBC compete. Their two flagship soaps, Coronation Street and EastEnders, compete. This is a FACT. This isn't my opinion, it is FACT. They are competing and want to be top of the ratings.



But I want to discuss it in this thread... This is a thread generally about Coronation Street's decline




Is this supposed to affect me? I didn't make this topic for you, I made it because I wanted to express my view. I admit the title is a bit stupid but it was meant metaphorically. Corrie in its current state needs axing. IMO