It was definately before he died that Tracy announced her departure. Nobody knew who was going to kill him as all 3 were leaving, it could have been any of them.

Some people did know it was Chrissie - 3 episodes wasn't filmed - it was kept under wraps though. Chrissie was allways going to be the murderer!

You might be right on the Tracy leaving story.

You had me worried there for a bit. I thought you were refering to THE Tracey.

Tracy-Ann was given a new, one year contract just before he died which would have taken her through to March 2006, if I recall correctly.

She was definitely not supposed to leave before then, until the tptb decided she had to go earlier.

Actually, here it is:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds19149.html
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I think another reason why EE has a bigger impact is because its the soap that has the least episodes each week. Corrie is on 5 times and Emmerdale is on 6 times. I think with Corrie and Emmerdale storylines that the drama is spread out through each episode whereas in EE, they tend to put more of it together, which has a bigger impact on the viewer.

Just my opinion anyway...

Of coarse it has more impact ,every bloody newspaper you read has EE plastered all over it,more like over kill

Agree with you but that is down to story's left by the last two producers. Kate Harwood seems to be moving swiftly past all that with a quick mention and back to some decent stuff.

I think a Soap's impact depends on many things; the stories, the actors, certainly the media and most importantly the viewers. If the media hype up a story, and its performed well then its is certainly primed for a larger impact. But it is how we the public take to a story that determines the impact.

I suppose Eastenders generally have a greater tendency to create a larger impact because the audience, (by and large) are slightly younger and will get more excited over the latest thing going on. That doesn't mean that its stories will always have a larger impact or that their stories are automatically more interesting. At the time when EE was in its latest massive high, and especially during the "!everyone's talking about it" time its stories were having a massive impact. It was well written, well produced and the plot holes at that time were much much smaller.
Some of Corrie's stories have also had a massive impact however, Hilman was huge, 1983's love triangle was tremendous. Believe it or not both Sarah's pregnancy and Alma's death were great topics of debate. Sometime stories have the opposite effect but still have a great impact. Charlie Shelley this summer was almost universally disliked, but yet it still made an impact on the audience. I guess this is following Oscar Wilde when he said the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

Emmerdale's plane crash, or recent storms episodes, JR's shooting, Harold's death/disappearance, Brookside's siege or patio/body story. Stories have an impact if it catches the public imagination, which admittedly is controlled slightly by the media.

I'd imagine EE generally does have a slightly bigger impact due to the type of people that tend to watch it. I think impact however relies more on the actual story and not necessarily what channel it is on

The people who work on EastEnders have trouble enough filming the grueling schedules for the show. There is just too many episodes that they have to churn out. I know the sound dubber for the show and when I did my work experience at EE you could see how overworked the people backstage are.

I think that maybe because it's London based but a major storyline in Eastenders will always get bigger coverage than a Corrie storyline.

And EE is the soap that is on the least! Imagine the work schedule on Corrie or even Emmerdale!! This can lead on to another subject about overkill - there are 7 episodes of Corrie next week! As a viewer, i will probably struggle to remember that they're on AND find the time to see them again if i miss them the first time around. Nevermind the actors, writers and crew. I sometimes think Corrie and Emmerdale storylines don't have a bigger impact because they seem to be on all the time - because EE is only 4 times a week then I, and others, appreciate it more.

I understand that ITV don't want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg but requesting more episodes will eventually take its toll. 4 episodes is enough for EE and they have struggled to keep churning consistent good stories over the past year, as we all know.

Thats a good point. Maybe thats why there tends to be more kiss n tells, scandals and shocks in the papers about the EE cast.

Well she may not go til then, because don't forget we still have to have her trial. And Sam's.

I'm not sure we're going to get either -

But you never know - there could be a twist.

i think that Eastenders does indeed have the most impact. when the soap was rubbish a year ago the papers thrased it and laid into it with venom. there was histrionics on here too and i think the reason people got so angry is because we deserved better and EE is capable of better. Eastenders (imo) has had a bigger impact on me thatn corrie. while i think Corrie had the edge over Eastenders up until last year, i cant deny that with the right scripts and a good executive producer EE outshines the rest.

Corrie at this point seems to be in limbo, people talked about EE's plotholes but the gaping plothole of devs past life is ridiculous. why didnt he help his kids on Mad Maya Monday? makes no sense.
Emmerdale has also recently come into its own, however without a long and popular history like corrie and EE it will never have the impact those 2 has on me.

I think EE for me was the hot soap growimg up and was the talk of soap land. it had the highest audience ever in a british soap and tackled social issues. thats why it has more of an impact on me.

No self respecting Barrister looking for a lucrative trial would allow her to plead guilty to murder.

You make a very good point, general - but there have been so many points overlooked in this particular plot that I'd be surprised if they'd thought of that.

And didn't Tracy-Ann film her last scenes months ago?

yes i believe she was on jonathan ross anout 3? weeks ago and had done her last scenes then!

IMHO Eastenders can do drama, when Cory tries it just doesnt work. If you take the storyline of Trevor in Eastenders and Hillman in Cory.

Eastenders managed to make the whole Trevor storyline menacing and initially very realistic. EE managed to play all the emotion and terror that little mo was going through, and you could understand why she cracked. Corys Richard Hillman storyline just had no emotion played out, and it all just seemed overplayed, unrealistic all put on for ratings. I half expected someone to shout out hes behind you when he came on screen.

i think EastEnders has more of a mix. In soaps you have to get balance right, last year Corrie had it bang on right which is why it was so popular, recently its lost that balance, tipping over to more comedy, where s EE has gone more camp/comedy and grabbed viewers it currently is balanced rightly and there fore more topical... and personally i love EE and h8 and always have done corrie! lol

My two penny's worth,when Corrie does drama I have sat there with rears in my eyes ,When EE does drama ,my wife chucks me out of the room because I cant stop laughing my rocks off

A little too much information I think

Perhaps another factor of why EE has a bigger impact is because the actors' personal lives are splashed all over the tabloids a lot more than Corrie or Emmerdale. I can't think of a single scandal from the E'dale cast. The only one from Corrie is Jimmi Harkinsin's (spelling?) drug use last year. The number of scandals from EE cast is endless - Jessie Wallace, Steve McFadden, Leslie Grantham and now, as reported today, Lacey Turner.

that makes no sense why would a person tune into a soap because the ACTOR/ACTRESS

that makes no sense why would a person tune into a soap because the ACTOR/ACTRESS had a recent scandal. If you turn on the soap you see the character Kat not the actress Jessie!