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Old 12-07-2002, 01:06
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She'd (unjustly) survive a vote against Tim. But there's no way she'd win it I think. Like someone else said, I just can’t see people actually picking up the phone and wasting 25p on Jade's behalf, rather than to vote someone out. Final four then first out is my prediction.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:07
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Originally posted by homer911


im sorry but i can't feel this. if anything the switch is from alex to the other hoousemates.
I am really surprised that some people can actually still admit to supporting Jonny.. knowing that this says an awful lot about themselves! I mean, he’s nothing more than a walking cancer machine .. nicotine stained, old before his time ‘has-been’ .. is this the “image” that you really wish to be associated with? .. Quite possibly, in your case, it seems.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:07
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They're really that big?

But really, can't you feel that there has been a switch from Jonny to other housemates.. be that Kate, Alex or even Jade.. Give him up, go on .. it won't hurt

Jade is the dark horse in this race now .. with her comments about being 'beaten' by her [now x] boyfriend, .. public sympathy is going to turn greatly in her favour.
On here there seems to have been a switch, but not when I talk to friends and work colleagues. The vast majority like Jonny.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:10
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at least jonny has finally admitted possessing an equity card, being registered with an agency, his tv & film (ha) career etc.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:10
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Whereas Jonny fans have all the best answers, namely "sad", "laughable", etc. Must've been on the debating team at Timothy's old school.
im not a johnny fan but i still think the arguments are weak as there are so many of them and alot of them are untrue.
and actually i went to a normal public school were the only debateting you had to do was to yourself getting your head kicked in by people waiting out side to rob you.

and i never said i had the best answers they are just opinions.
my personal opinions not the opinions of all johnny fans.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:11
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BB transmitted comments about Jade being beaten by her ex? Risky business considering he strenuously denied anything of the sort ever happened, and considering where the burden of proof lies. 'Tis almost a shame Claims Direct is currently experiencing difficulties.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:11
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On here there seems to have been a switch, but not when I talk to friends and work colleagues. The vast majority like Jonny.
That would be the C2DE demographic .. so this hardly explains a thing.. it would be *expected* for them to support Jonny; its almost pre-programmed.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:13
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at least jonny has finally admitted possessing an equity card, being registered with an agency, his tv & film (ha) career etc.
He admitted it in the first/second week when Alison was in the house.

People seem to think that because Jonny was in Billy Elliot that means that everything he does in the house is an act. My dad was an extra in Memphis Belle (through his work in the RAF, the basically wanted people local to the area who had full dress uniform), my dad wasn't an actor.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:14
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Originally posted by Elysium


I am really surprised that some people can actually still admit to supporting Jonny.. knowing that this says an awful lot about themselves! I mean, he’s nothing more than a walking cancer machine .. nicotine stained, old before his time ‘has-been’ .. is this the “image” that you really wish to be associated with? .. Quite possibly, in your case, it seems.
I think youve got a lot of pent up anger, maybe some issues you need to explore with a trained counsellor. Did you have a bad experience in the North-East as a child or something? Is it a regionalist (similar to racist) thing? Im not a psychologist but I can see you have issues!
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:15
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Originally posted by A_different_Bob
I presume thats a yes then
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:17
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That would be the C2DE demographic .. so this hardly explains a thing.. it would be *expected* for them to support Jonny; its almost pre-programmed.
As I told you before Elysium when you threw in the demography card, im not C2DE demoraphic and its not relevant anyway.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:18
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Originally posted by Tas
Homer911 gonna get a life, there are other things to this crap existence than worrying about wether I am an Alex fan or not. I have 3 candidates for winning, Alex, Jonny and Kate.

Unlike you, I have listened to all the crap that goes on, all the media hype and most importantly, the utter drivel that is passed out here.......

I will watch to the end and I will pass judgement at that time....

If you want precentages then

Alex 35%
Kate 35%
Jonny 30%

Does that satisfy your needs...............

WELL DOES IT...........................
i am not worrying about wether your an alex or not and why has an argument about big brother become a personal attack. why is that. and for your your information i have listened to all the crap and the utter drivel that has passed out here. why the do you think i am defending johnny. for the goodness of my health.
this does not need to develop into a personal attack, its only a gameshow remember. but if thats the way you want to go about it i can't stop you.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:22
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Originally posted by mromega

People seem to think that because Jonny was in Billy Elliot that means that everything he does in the house is an act. My dad was an extra in Memphis Belle (through his work in the RAF, the basically wanted people local to the area who had full dress uniform), my dad wasn't an actor.
Yeah but your Dad isn't in BB3 hoping to gain a D-List celebrity status after BB3's finished....is he?
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:22
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Originally posted by Elysium


I am really surprised that some people can actually still admit to supporting Jonny.. knowing that this says an awful lot about themselves! I mean, he’s nothing more than a walking cancer machine .. nicotine stained, old before his time ‘has-been’ .. is this the “image” that you really wish to be associated with? .. Quite possibly, in your case, it seems.
why must you turn a chat about a tv show into a personal attack.
and how does defending someone mean i want to be associated with him. i never going to meet him, i don't want to meet him so how am i associated with him.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:24
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You keep saying the anti-Jonny arguements are weak.

But if you read them, there are many points that you do not answer to.

The pro-Jonny arguements are virtually non-existent.
You have to do better than one or two lines of text saying things like "anti-Jonny arguements are weak", "they're getting desperate" or diverting the arguement on to another housemate, such as "Well at least he doesn't whine like Alex" or "At least he isn't two-faced like Adele".

It's asked time and time again, "What are Jonny's merits?"
Nobody has many answers to give.

If the anti-Jonny arguements are weak, then you have to convince us that they are, by telling us why.

Not by using diversion tictacs.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:26
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Originally posted by homer911


why must you turn a chat about a tv show into a personal attack.
and how does defending someone mean i want to be associated with him. i never going to meet him, i don't want to meet him so how am i associated with him.
You are offering your support to the “image” that you see and hear on screen .. it reflects aspects of yourself that you see in that particular person; .. It’s a little too late to get into the psychology of this, so we’ll leave it for another time [or not at all] .. but by the very nature of your “support” you are accepting [in this case] Jonny’s “package” over all others.. and with it includes a reflection [or aspects] of you.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:30
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Originally posted by Elysium


You are offering your support to the “image” that you see and hear on screen .. it reflects aspects of yourself that you see in that particular person; .. It’s a little too late to get into the psychology of this, so we’ll leave it for another time [or not at all] .. but by the very nature of your “support” you are accepting [in this case] Jonny’s “package” over all others.. and with it includes a reflection [or aspects] of you.
Elysium .... I must be physic!
I just knew you would love this thread !

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Old 12-07-2002, 01:30
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Originally posted by Alrightmate
You keep saying the anti-Jonny arguements are weak.

But if you read them, there are many points that you do not answer to.

The pro-Jonny arguements are virtually non-existent.
You have to do better than one or two lines of text saying things like "anti-Jonny arguements are weak", "they're getting desperate" or diverting the arguement on to another housemate, such as "Well at least he doesn't whine like Alex" or "At least he isn't two-faced like Adele".

It's asked time and time again, "What are Jonny's merits?"
Nobody has many answers to give.

If the anti-Jonny arguements are weak, then you have to convince us that they are, by telling us why.

Not by using diversion tictacs.
You'll find that we're simply trying to defend him against unfair criticism and misrepresentation. I find it no easier to list Jonnys merits than those of any other housemate, its much easier to pick up on every negative aspect, every misjudged comment, but as we dont know these people we can only judge on how they generally come across. I like Jonny no more than I like Kate, theyre probably my favourite two HM's. In my eyes theyre both pretty decent ordinary people who like to have fun and experience new things, and Im sure Jonny would be delighted if his career took an upturn after this. So what? It certainly doesnt make him the disgusting character that certain people here describe.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:31
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Originally posted by Alrightmate
You keep saying the anti-Jonny arguements are weak.

But if you read them, there are many points that you do not answer to.

The pro-Jonny arguements are virtually non-existent.
You have to do better than one or two lines of text saying things like "anti-Jonny arguements are weak", "they're getting desperate" or diverting the arguement on to another housemate, such as "Well at least he doesn't whine like Alex" or "At least he isn't two-faced like Adele".

It's asked time and time again, "What are Jonny's merits?"
Nobody has many answers to give.

If the anti-Jonny arguements are weak, then you have to convince us that they are, by telling us why.

Not by using diversion tictacs.
in response to you i have not said " well at least he does'nt whine like alex" or "at least he is'nt two faced like adele".

and i am not a johnny fan i just feel the countless threads about him are getting out of hand. are you telling me that because he has appeared in a charity event on cilla black that he is desperate for fame. that is a weak argument in my book.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:33
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Originally posted by LadyKnight


Elysium .... I must be physic!
I just knew you would love this thread !

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Old 12-07-2002, 01:37
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What I find hard to understand Elysium is why you're quite so disgusted by Jonny but seemingly far less so by PJ. His stream of laddish, sexist, base comments, and treatment of Jade would on the face of it be far more deserving of criticism. The best word I can think of is 'snobbery', a distain of the working classes, without any regard for the environment in which they were moulded. Just because Jonny smokes, swears a bit, and likes to be on the telly certainly doesnt make him any less of a person than say Alex.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:37
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Originally posted by Elysium


You are offering your support to the “image” that you see and hear on screen .. it reflects aspects of yourself that you see in that particular person; .. It’s a little too late to get into the psychology of this, so we’ll leave it for another time [or not at all] .. but by the very nature of your “support” you are accepting [in this case] Jonny’s “package” over all others.. and with it includes a reflection [or aspects] of you.
from what i undestand from your point if a lawyer defends a murdererer then this is a refection on the lawyer and his character. all i am doing is defending the guy. it does'nt not mean i like him or dislike him. if the argument was good then it would not bother me. but some arguments that develop are untrue.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:39
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What I find hard to understand Elysium is why you're quite so disgusted by Jonny but seemingly far less so by PJ. His stream of laddish, sexist, base comments, and treatment of Jade would on the face of it be far more deserving of criticism. The best word I can think of is 'snobbery', a distain of the working classes, without any regard for the environment in which they were moulded. Just because Jonny smokes, swears a bit, and likes to be on the telly certainly doesnt make him any less of a person than say Alex.
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:39
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Im gonna have to go to bed guys but its been fun, keep the flag flying Homer
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Old 12-07-2002, 01:39
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Originally posted by mromega

People seem to think that because Jonny was in Billy Elliot that means that everything he does in the house is an act. My dad was an extra in Memphis Belle (through his work in the RAF, the basically wanted people local to the area who had full dress uniform), my dad wasn't an actor.
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I don't think that anybody says that everything he does is an act. That's just exaggerating what has been said. That would be impossible.
Not everthing he does is an act. But his whole approach to projecting a general personality type is an act.

He picks his moments by grabbing opportunities to use the acting.
You can actually see him using these advantages and manouvering the situation to his benefit.

I've seen him in certain "fun" situations where there is absolutely no joy or humour in his face.

Much of the time he ISN'T acting. This is where there is a personality switch, where he is hardly animated at all and just watches people. When the time is right he's suddenly bounding all over the place in a split second.

I just think his eyes give him away completely.
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