DS Forums

 
 

Dress Bias!


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 20-11-2005, 11:03
LinoleicAcid
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Anton's Army HQ
Posts: 1,106

The dresses on SCD are marvellous, yes.
I love them, and would kill to own most of them (if I could fit into them that is )
However, who thinks that there is dress bias where Zoe and Patsy are concerned?

In Ballroom, Zoe looks like she's floating on air.
She is a marvellous dancer, granted, but she always gets the floaty dresses with bits of chiffon coming off the arms, such as in week four and last night.

Patsy never gets floaty arms and billowy bits, which is a bit a bit of a shame. Her dresses are normally stunning, but not quite as floaty, billowy, and stunning to see when she spins round.

Even in the samba, Zoe got feathers, Patsy got a christmas tree decoration stuck to her shoulder.

The dress makes half of the dance, in my opinion. That's why I found it hard to concentrate on Will's tango when Hanna appeared to have turned into a cross between a stick of Brighton Rock and a Las Vegas 'cabaret artist'.

I was transfixed by Erin's dress last night, when she did her high kicks and you saw the red, white and blue. It made the dance come alive, even though when she was backstage she looked a bit like the Wicked Queen from Snow White.

Perhaps the costume department could give Patsy a floaty chiffon number or two, see if they can drum up a bit more of that grace and elegance that makes a girl look like she should be dancing with a ballroom champion.
LinoleicAcid is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 20-11-2005, 11:28
CaptainSensible
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 5,212
Erin's foxtrot dress was fabulous. I felt so sorry for Hanna; she is gorgeous, but her dress was awful (her salsa outfit was fab though).
CaptainSensible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 11:32
Agent Krycek
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Stalking David and Neal
Posts: 38,045
I don't think you can blame the costume department, as far as I'm aware the professionals have a great deal of say in how their celeb is dressed, Ian's been doing a marvellous job with Zoe's outfits, she always looks great, whereas I would agree that Patsy's don't always play to the best advantage.

Agree with Hannah's outfit last night - What the hell was going on there Looked like she's been unable to decide between two different dresses and decided to wear both at the same time. Erin looked beautiful, for some reason I was put in mind of a Nun having a bit of a wicked weekend away from the convent
Agent Krycek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 11:35
Cat123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,631
I wasn't keen on Hanna's dress either! All their samba outfits were amazing though. I loved Patsy's dress last night, but I'm not sure ifit fitted the purpose!!!
Cat123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 11:52
dancedreamer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: my house!
Posts: 562
When Hannah came down the stairs I was like WHAT is she wearing! Zoe looked beautiful as always and I don't think Patsy's dress was that flattering on her. I thought Erins dress was fabulous and that she looked so lovely, so suitable for her dance!
dancedreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 12:14
bendymixer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,185
no bias I think it their taste saw Hannah and Andrew in Isle of Mann earlier in the year and her dresses were horrid
bendymixer is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 12:21
Tasi
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,887
Hannah looked like she'd got her corset on outside her dress... truely awful
Tasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 13:48
GlenP
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bolton, Lancs
Posts: 1,751
Having read the SCD book, they make it quite clear that the costume choice is, largely, down to the individual celebs & pros.

Apparently, some of them just don't like certain things & this is bound to have an, at times, detrimental effect on how the costume fits in with their dance (e.g. Natasha Kaplinsky, in the first series, needed a lot of arm twisting before she would wear anything even slightly revealing for the latin dances).
GlenP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 13:50
LinoleicAcid
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Anton's Army HQ
Posts: 1,106
Ah, thanks for telling me, GlenP.

In that case, Anton should get Patsy to be swirlier! She needs it!
LinoleicAcid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 16:30
Becksaroo
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 331
How can anyone think that Patsy doesn't get great dresses.
She looks amazing in them. She even had floaty wing things for the first Waltz.

Zoe has a better figure for those type of ballroom dresses than Patsy..i.e. Tall, long limbed and not very curvy.
Patsy looks fab in the latin gear that shows off her curves and truly splendid legs, (lucky thing ).

I don't believe that there is any bias going on at all.

Becks
Becksaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 17:10
GlenP
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bolton, Lancs
Posts: 1,751
I've just watched the tape again & have been left with the impression that Hannah's dress; with her corset outside, was a bit of a throwback to Madonna's early 80's look (the old Doonsbury line about wearing your underwear on the outside springs to mind). Perhaps is was just an attempt to capture the idea of the tango being based upon dances between Argentinian prostitutes & gauchos? If this is the case, what can we expect to see in the group dance next week? Sorry, might just have to go & have a quiet lie down in a dark room (LOL).

I actually liked the feathery affect they achieved with the hem of Patsy's dress. I know it was only done with the material; not a return to the bad old days of "Come Dancing", but I thought it was quite effective.

BTW. Just for those with bags of cash to throw around & who are that way inclined. Apparently, the ladies dresses that are worn for the show are only borrowed from Chrisanne Limited, worn for one show & then offered for sale (after suitable refurbishement), so there's at least one idea for all your Christmas boxes.
GlenP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 18:31
bendymixer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,185
have you seen the prices of chrisanne dresses - its gone mental and its destroying competitive dance for a couple to think they must have a chrisanne dresss or god forbid a sappiel one!!!! your talking thousands and its puts many couples out of competition
bendymixer is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 18:35
pipie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Geordie land!
Posts: 698
i've sed this in another thread but i'll say it again, Hannah's dress was like something lily savage would wear! quite liked Karen's dress but then i'm bias, nice to see her legs for once, dunno why they seem to cover her up more
pipie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 19:13
GlenP
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bolton, Lancs
Posts: 1,751
Originally Posted by bendymixer
have you seen the prices of chrisanne dresses - its gone mental and its destroying competitive dance for a couple to think they must have a chrisanne dresss or god forbid a sappiel one!!!! your talking thousands and its puts many couples out of competition
I can understand where you're coming from with this one; trhe BBC wardrobe people do say that the second hand dresses, from the program, do tend to sell for vast sums; mainly in the USA & Japan.

Actually buying one would be out of the question for most people; unless one of us is keeping a lottery win quiet, but we all have things that we'd like to have on our wish list for the day our ship comes in.
GlenP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 19:18
Shappy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: By the window
Posts: 14,154
Originally Posted by bendymixer
have you seen the prices of chrisanne dresses - its gone mental and its destroying competitive dance for a couple to think they must have a chrisanne dresss or god forbid a sappiel one!!!! your talking thousands and its puts many couples out of competition
Didn't we hear on ITT a few weeks ago that Brendan used to stitch Camilla's dresses? They obviously felt no need for designer wear and they still did well competitively.

Maybe Brendan should launch a ballroom fashion label. I can imagine many women queueing up to be measured by his tape!
Shappy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2005, 20:06
Peter E
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,495
Originally Posted by GlenP

Apparently, some of them just don't like certain things & this is bound to have an, at times, detrimental effect on how the costume fits in with their dance (e.g. Natasha Kaplinsky, in the first series, needed a lot of arm twisting before she would wear anything even slightly revealing for the latin dances).
Well I'm gald she did.
Peter E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-11-2005, 19:12
LinoleicAcid
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Anton's Army HQ
Posts: 1,106
Just saw ITT.

Those Cambridge people seemed to think that Zoe's dress was hiding the gaps...
LinoleicAcid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-11-2005, 19:21
XxgraciexX
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,902
OMG i couldnt stop laughing at there little comments!
xx
XxgraciexX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-11-2005, 20:06
bendymixer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,185
oh he may have stitched her frocks in the eearly days of their partnership but when in top competitions she wore chrisanne and sapiel like the rest of them though the top couples get sponsored dresses
bendymixer is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 21-11-2005, 23:17
Geeny
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 686
Clever of Erin as the ballroom champion not to wear such a traditional dress as the celebs
Geeny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-11-2005, 23:42
Fiz
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 138
I wasn't keen on the colour of Hanna's dress this week, but I thought the silver one she had on last week was lovely. Poss my fave of the series so far - any other faves? I liked Zoe's salsa dress as well.

Those armchair critics - where do they find them? And can anyone beat the 'children of the damned'?! (one of Bruno's best quotes, along with 'cover it up darling', to Fiona about mistakes
Fiz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-11-2005, 01:45
GlenP
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bolton, Lancs
Posts: 1,751
Originally Posted by LinoleicAcid
Just saw ITT.

Those Cambridge people seemed to think that Zoe's dress was hiding the gaps...
I taped the show &, having watched it again, twice, tonight; not all lot on after "Taming .of the Shrew", I have to admit that they were right.

Anyone who can replay the show, will notice that at every turn Ian was having to pull Zoe back into a proper hold. In fact they were actually as bad for the hold as Patsy appeared to be.

The only reason I can think of that the judges didn't see this is that they don't have the advantage of replaying the dance & Zoe's floaty dress covered a lot of the mistakes up.

Of the four ballroom dancing couples, the best 2 for maintaining their holds were Colin & Will, neither of whom seem to have lost their grip on their partner, as it were, for anything other than very minute instances.
GlenP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-11-2005, 10:07
bendymixer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,185
that gap which was blantantly obvious right throught the performance was main reason I was disgusted at Zoe's marks you could have drove a train through it and those Cambridge dancers were pretty spot on with their remarks
bendymixer is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 22:14.