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Old 21-11-2005, 10:42
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I was watching the show on Saturday night and there were a few things that really struck me. A. Chico is a great entertainer but does he really deserve to be there over people like 4tune, Maria etc... B. Are the judges really looking for talent or just controversey? and C. Who the hell picks the songs for the contestants???

I have to say, Nicholas didn't do a great job on Saturday night, but it was a hard song to sing. He should have been singing Lemar, Craig David or Usher not East17! I kinda knew he wouldn't win, but I think it looks like Louis really only wants Shayne to win and Nicholas kinda came across as the poor relation to him. Especially when it came to song choices....
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Old 21-11-2005, 10:45
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[quote=kinkypinky]I was watching the show on Saturday night and there were a few things that really struck me. A. Chico is a great entertainer but does he really deserve to be there over people like 4tune, Maria etc... B. Are the judges really looking for talent or just controversey? and C. Who the hell picks the songs for the contestants???

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I keep saying it day after day, but no one wants to know. This is not a talent contest, it's a live action soap. The contestants are just props and are being cyncially used as a backdrop to the Mrs. Baby-Voice Osbourne Show.
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:08
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[quote=willow1978]
Originally Posted by kinkypinky
I was watching the show on Saturday night and there were a few things that really struck me. A. Chico is a great entertainer but does he really deserve to be there over people like 4tune, Maria etc... B. Are the judges really looking for talent or just controversey? and C. Who the hell picks the songs for the contestants???

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I keep saying it day after day, but no one wants to know. This is not a talent contest, it's a live action soap. The contestants are just props and are being cyncially used as a backdrop to the Mrs. Baby-Voice Osbourne Show.

I can understand what you are saying bt I honestly think that there is some genuine talent there but it is failed to be recognised. (ie Nicholas)
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:14
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nicolas has been crap

but he does have potential all he needs is time

the best thing is for him to be evicted now and have more training, he needs to learn some basics and to keep in tune(hes terribly flat)

he has been seen by the public and they will remember him, give him a couple of years and i think he could be big

look at lamar
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:15
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I can understand what you are saying bt I honestly think that there is some genuine talent there but it is failed to be recognised. (ie Nicholas)
That's because it's not really the purpose of the show. If someone who has talent manages to get through, what'll happen? They'll realease a flop single and possibly album, and you'll not hear of them again.

And a new search will begin.
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:26
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Originally Posted by slappers r us
nicolas has been crap

but he does have potential all he needs is time

the best thing is for him to be evicted now and have more training, he needs to learn some basics and to keep in tune(hes terribly flat)

he has been seen by the public and they will remember him, give him a couple of years and i think he could be big

look at lamar
I know. I think Nic has the potential to be just like Lemar (if you ask me he should have been singing Lemar songs, or Usher or Craig David as he has that kinda tone to his voice) He has great potential but he wasn't given the oppertunities to sing the songs like Shayne. And I really like Shayne but I think Nicholas has got a raw deal. It is gone past a joke at this stage. I think it's just gettin frustratin for viewers to watch week after week when the CS are in the bottom two and The judges keep keeping them in...What's the point in the vote.. It was stated in a newspaper over the weekend that the week that the CS and Maria were in the bottom 2 maria got more than twice as many votes as they did...Yet they are still here!!!!!
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:29
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I agree Willow, I think that PI was more genuine, XF roughly took the format realising that the judges confrontations pulled in the viewers so focused the show more on that, then this year realising the success they had from doing this last year have taken the format so far that actually finding talent is now much lower on their list of priorities than pulling in viewers / votes / money. I remember in the run up to this years auditions you had Simon saying something along the lines that this year they truly want to find an international singing star.. if you had said then that this years show would focus a lot of the time on an ex moroccan goat herder / stripper who can barely sing he would have said you were talking rubbish
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:35
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Originally Posted by kinkypinky
I know. I think Nic has the potential to be just like Lemar (if you ask me he should have been singing Lemar songs, or Usher or Craig David as he has that kinda tone to his voice) He has great potential but he wasn't given the oppertunities to sing the songs like Shayne. And I really like Shayne but I think Nicholas has got a raw deal. It is gone past a joke at this stage. I think it's just gettin frustratin for viewers to watch week after week when the CS are in the bottom two and The judges keep keeping them in...What's the point in the vote.. It was stated in a newspaper over the weekend that the week that the CS and Maria were in the bottom 2 maria got more than twice as many votes as they did...Yet they are still here!!!!!
its not a blame shayne and louie senario for the songs nicolas stated he did not and would not sing craig david or lemar songs

as for the end vote, it hapened before the conways were ever in the bottom, remember 4tune and the ladies, do you really think they were bottom those weeks

nicolas was not good enough, hes gone but in the future he could be good
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:44
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Originally Posted by slappers r us
its not a blame shayne and louie senario for the songs nicolas stated he did not and would not sing craig david or lemar songs

as for the end vote, it hapened before the conways were ever in the bottom, remember 4tune and the ladies, do you really think they were bottom those weeks

nicolas was not good enough, hes gone but in the future he could be good

I can see what you mean. But i honestly think the judges are the ones who are ruining the competition. People obviously dont like the CS as they aren't voting for them and also all you have to do is look through these threads to see the same. So why o why are the judges keepin them in.,... Comon even Chico is better than them!
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:46
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Originally Posted by kinkypinky
I can see what you mean. But i honestly think the judges are the ones who are ruining the competition. People obviously dont like the CS as they aren't voting for them and also all you have to do is look through these threads to see the same. So why o why are the judges keepin them in.,... Comon even Chico is better than them!
chico over the conways

i know some people dont like the conways but i wouldnt go that far
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:53
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Originally Posted by slappers r us
chico over the conways

i know some people dont like the conways but i wouldnt go that far
At least Chico is entertaining.... you get more entertainment watching paint dry when they are on
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:03
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Originally Posted by Spiv
I agree Willow, I think that PI was more genuine, XF roughly took the format realising that the judges confrontations pulled in the viewers so focused the show more on that, then this year realising the success they had from doing this last year have taken the format so far that actually finding talent is now much lower on their list of priorities than pulling in viewers / votes / money. I remember in the run up to this years auditions you had Simon saying something along the lines that this year they truly want to find an international singing star.. if you had said then that this years show would focus a lot of the time on an ex moroccan goat herder / stripper who can barely sing he would have said you were talking rubbish
That's pretty much it. It can't have taken Cowell long to realise that he made moeny out of the show itself, but the acts probably drained assets to a huge extent. So he has put the focus totally on the show and left himself obliged to only one act, and even then with a very limited obligation which he shrugs off very easily.
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:13
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Yep, I think last year he really wanted to win, but I don't think he is actually that bothered this year - I think Sharon is more interested in the exposure than anything, only Louis IMO see's it as an opportunity to get another act on his books, if for no reason other than pride I'm sure Louis will do something with Shayne whether he wins or not..
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:15
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what is it really about???

That an easy question to answer.


Its all about self-promotion of the judges and making money for Syco.
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:16
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what is it really about???

That an easy question to answer.


Its all about self-promotion of the judges and making money for Syco.
.....not very memorable for 5000,was it?
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:24
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Originally Posted by Spiv
Yep, I think last year he really wanted to win, but I don't think he is actually that bothered this year - I think Sharon is more interested in the exposure than anything, only Louis IMO see's it as an opportunity to get another act on his books, if for no reason other than pride I'm sure Louis will do something with Shayne whether he wins or not..

I think you are right but I thought I heard him say on Saturday night that he would be working with Nicholas anyway. Did anyone else notice this?
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:40
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Originally Posted by kinkypinky
I think you are right but I thought I heard him say on Saturday night that he would be working with Nicholas anyway. Did anyone else notice this?
Yes! I heaard him say that...I'm glad somebody else heard it too..I thought I'd imagined it!
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Old 21-11-2005, 12:40
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I didn't hear that but i would have missed it if it was on ITV2 as I didn't see the post results show. It wouldn't suprise me if he said it though. The judges come out with all sorts of rubbish mainly designed to stroke their own ego's - like Sharon saying last year how Tabby & Cassie were now part of the Osbourne family and they would be looked after, its all part of the judges trying to show how brilliant and influential they are.. once the show is over all the acts will be forgotten and it will be onto the next thing.
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Old 21-11-2005, 13:56
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Originally Posted by Spiv
I didn't hear that but i would have missed it if it was on ITV2 as I didn't see the post results show. It wouldn't suprise me if he said it though. The judges come out with all sorts of rubbish mainly designed to stroke their own ego's - like Sharon saying last year how Tabby & Cassie were now part of the Osbourne family and they would be looked after, its all part of the judges trying to show how brilliant and influential they are.. once the show is over all the acts will be forgotten and it will be onto the next thing.
Louis said it to him on the ITV1 show after they found out he was being booted. I feel sorry for Nic as he is so young and never really had a chance, I hope Louis does work with him or sign him as I think he would be fantastic although I would fear that Louis would have him fall into his same routine of covers covers and more covers! I am glad someone else heard it too...thought I was imagining it myself!!!
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Old 21-11-2005, 14:06
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After watching This Morning I can see Simon voting out the Conways before he would vote out Chico. He confirmed that Chico will be releasing a single shortly after the winner does on his record label.
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Old 21-11-2005, 14:39
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After watching This Morning I can see Simon voting out the Conways before he would vote out Chico. He confirmed that Chico will be releasing a single shortly after the winner does on his record label.

I kinda knew that would happen. he is just as fed up with the CS as everyone else and it probably the most fair of all the judges as he bases his choice on the nite and not on who he prefers or any personal attachments to the contestants
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Old 21-11-2005, 15:08
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Simon did not say on This Morning that he would be releasing a single by Chico some time after the winner's has been released; what he did say was that it was quite possible. In other words the door is open but he is not committed.

Nicholas had to go on Saturday.
He sang out of tune throughout the both times he performed the song and the main problem with him is that he is very forgettable. He has nothing unique about him and no amount of practice is going to change that.
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