Exactly. Good on Jonny! (don't like him much myself)
Great to see you making a pro -Jonny post for once, Elysium.

Whatever Jonny had done last night would have provoked criticism on here. Obviously just by breathing he is offending people.
He knew it would have seemed selfish to ask for the call himself, as did all the other HM's.
He is criticised for being vociferous in his choice of Tim for the call, but others were vociferous in wanting Jonny to have it. If he'd said nothing, others would have still suggested he take the call, therefore he would have had to still nominate Tim.
Lets face it, this is nit-picking of the first degree. Whatever he says or does from now on is gonna be picked apart on here, its so predictable.
Everyone is entitled to have their likes and dislikes amongst HM's. Yes, he's loud, and likes to be a central part of most things that are going on, I can see why that grates with some people, but the place would be duller without him. Alex and Tim may as well not be there most of time, they look miserable and bored. Jonny and Kate, though 'earthy' and crude at times are at least trying to enjoy themselves and seem to be the only HM's who actually want to be there.

Haha.
I knew there would be a topic like this when I loggend this morning. The lengths some of you people got to, just to discredit Johnny, is quite staggering.

I'm no particular fan of the man myself, but to say his actions last night were part of some kind of masterplan is ridiculous. I've seen him talking with Tim a number of times on the past few days, and he's obviously recognised how low Tim is, and why he feels that way. Tim was the obvious choice for the phone call, that was plain to see. And it obviously had a positive effect on him.

And the reason Johnny said 'I'll go first' is because he had been reading the bloody task out!! It was completely natural for him to go first, and it would have been stranger if he hadnt volunteered to go first.

As for Alex, well, he really is rather spineless isnt he? Its all very well to say 'leave me out of it', and then let others carry the responsibility. And to have the audacity to start criticising Kate for having her say? Shameful. At least the others had he guts to try and make such a difficult decision.

At last... someone with some common sense. Someone who has not taken a side and tried not to ridicule anyone else's posts.

Great post.

The way in which each one of the HMs responded to the phone call decision last night was calculated. Alex bailed out straight way, Kate more or less stayed out of it with the excuse that she had the video last week, Jade chopped and changed between Tim and Jonny depending on how the rest of the group were going, Tim and Jonny both tried to make each other take it, the only certain thing was that none of them wanted it.

Actually Arnold ive regularly ridiculed some of the rantings about Jonny. Thought id correct you before someone else did.

totally agree with you Bob.

it annoys me why, everytime i post my opinons in this forum (Which is what this forum is all about) i seem to get a reply to it by a few people slagging that opinion. it has come to the stage now that i don't want to bother anymore.

Great posts and honesty. Is there no end to your talents?

Agreed... unless of course Jonny HAD taken the call and come out blubbing, when he would have been a hero and everyone would have forgiven him everything they hated him for, beacuse really he is just an ordinary sensitive guy who loves his Mam!

So maybe not such a good move!

That's absolutely true - the fewer jack the lad arseholes like Jonny in the world, the better.

That's exactly how I saw it Kmac. I did feel that Tim was slightly pressured into it in the end.

lu

Glad to see the odd nugget of wisdom amongst the piles of BS.

I'm neither a Jonny fan nor a Jonny hater, but I really am getting tired of all the Jonny hating. The way I saw it there were 5 people sitting and arguing as to why they didnt want to take the call. As it happens they all forced it onto the person who wouldve benifitted most. (not that I particularly like Tim either) But it certainly put his mind at rest.

I was slightly dismayed at Alex's refusal to enter the discussion, but I wonder if he thought that the others would want a phone call.

Just my thoughts.

Nice.

Jonny did actually say that he had seen his family on the video last week and knew they were ok so he was quite happy not to take the call, people are reading to much into it, it was Kate who said it should be between Tim & Jonny, maybe she is playing tactics by putting Jonny in the frame?

It's funny you should say that Callie, did you notice when they were talking last night about having to nominate, Kate was taking the mick out of Jonny for always harping on about the distance his ma and pa have to travel?? It obviously hasn't gone un-noticed.

Two points

a) Jonny had the arrogance to to say that Tim should have the call it as if it were his to give away.

b) After last weeks task I am sure Jonny was thinking that along with taking the call there may have been a sting in the tail, this being that whoever accepted the phone call was also up for eviction.

Just yesterday there was a thread about how jonny would force the others into letting him take the call and how they shouldn't fall for it. Now that he showed some compassion for tim, who was clearly upset all week about whether his girlfriend was still on side, Jonny is yet again the bad guy. Can he never do anything right? Personally I think he is just a nice guy getting a rough deal from the public. I have E4 and have it on most of the time so it's not the editing on C4 that influences me.

I have had enough of these anti-Jonny posts. It doesn't matter what the man does, he is always wrong. He takes the phone call, he's selfish. He gives Tim the call, he's acting. How pathetic.

Most of the Jonny-haters blatantly want Alex to win. If you want Alex to win that badly, why not pick up on some nice, positive, altruistic things that he has done and start a thread on that? You are all coming across as very immature people.

Well done, at last someone speaks with a bit of sense!

MJ

He should have put himself out of the running, the way Alex did, with no fuss, and no big staging of how compassionate and caring he, Jonny, is. He should just have said 'Count me out.'

If they had all said 'Count me out,' that would have been a corker. But yet, again, Jonny manipulates somebody else to be a stool pigeon to Jonny's character drawing of himself, at that other person's expense.

That cuts both ways Mullen, and if you want to be fair you'd see that too.

There are threads devoted to praising all the main contenders. This is a campaign though..and all partisans are entitled to criticise their rival's actions. What you've said about Jonny's choices could easily be applied to any of the HMs actions in the house and has.

On topic,
IMO Jonny was a little too keen to speak first. Is that okay?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I have no problem with that. If someone wants to waste their life sitting at their computer thinking up negative comments to post about Jonny, or any other housemate, then they are free to do that.

The point I am making is that every other thread seems to be about (or it degenerates into) something evil that Jonny has done. Even if you don't like Jonny, don't you get sick of reading the same old stuff over and over?

Perhaps I'm a cynic...and I know that whoever had taken the phone call or pushed some-one else into it would be up for criticism...and they are all after all, playing a game.....but I can't help thinking, next weeks nominations:-

Jonny must know that Alex will nominate him (as he will nominate Alex)...would Tim also be tempted to nominate him, (Jonny) and by showing concern for Tim, has he managed to put a stop to it?

Just a thought!

well perhaps he didn't think it would be fair for him to take the call seeing as he got all his questions wrong.

Jonny and Jade were up very early this morning, can't remember the exact time, but it was between 5.45am-7.00am, could have been earlier.

They got around to chatting about the phone call that Tim had last night. Jade said to Jonny, that Tim deserved the phone message. Jonny was very quick to jump in with that he didn't deserve it. Jade then said, ah yes, he needed it. So, I'm taking from what he said, the he felt he deserved it really.

Scary to think there are people in society that can see such scheming in people behind such bland actions. The whole task was pretty pathetic, and the idea that refusing to accept a call from your family, or trying to get someone else to take it could have such deep and devious motives seems the mark of deranged mind to me!

It's been suggested that "this is a campain" and as such critising the opposition is OK...which is exactly the attitude in politics which most people see as a bad thing and switches them off from ALL parties. Is that the ultimate aim of the posters here, to try and convince people that ALL housemates are equally bad and hence we won't vote, and that leaves the few people who do care to make all the difference?

Is that the real conspiracy this year in BB that there is a big group who are out there trying to make us all hate the show? Maybe the gov has decided we're watching too much TV and as a nation we have to do somehting else so they want us not to watch BB anymore?

Ahhhg...all these conspiracy theorists that see scheming where there isn't any have got to me!