Jonny did quite clearly hector Tim into taking that call, I'm sure Tim would've preferred to leave it. They both weren't keen (probably more to do with being set apart from the group rather than what they might hear), but neither had the quick wit to argue their position convincingly above "I think you should", "No, I think you should", "You should take the call", "I really think you should", etc. Drawing straws would've been more illuminating. 'twas a crap task, though Tim came of best in the end with his tiny tears (awww, bless :'( ).
Jonnys Phone Sacrifice for Tim - A SHAM
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“Originally posted by Wooster
Face it, Alex was the only one who came out of last nights task badly and no number of made up excuses can change that now.
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“Originally posted by Wooster
Face it, Alex was the only one who came out of last nights task badly and no number of made up excuses can change that now.
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...and he doesn't seem to care...which is why I think it can be argued he is being genuine - as he is not diving in first to trumpet his diplomacy as Jonny did last night. The fact that Alex is prepared to be let his true emotion show (i.e. he wasn't feeling too good last night) is, in my estimation, a lot better than changing his mood just for the half hour of live broadcasts - as Jonny seems to do.
The other HMs have been very cruel to Jonny. He has been up for eviction 3 times alreadly and his family have to come such a long way every time. Let's hope they are not inconvenienced again untill the night he wins
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“Originally posted by leebec
...and he doesn't seem to care...which is why I think it can be argued he is being genuine - as he is not diving in first to trumpet his diplomacy as Jonny did last night. The fact that Alex is prepared to be let his true emotion show (i.e. he wasn't feeling too good last night) is, in my estimation, a lot better than changing his mood just for the half hour of live broadcasts - as Jonny seems to do. ”
“Originally posted by leebec
...and he doesn't seem to care...which is why I think it can be argued he is being genuine - as he is not diving in first to trumpet his diplomacy as Jonny did last night. The fact that Alex is prepared to be let his true emotion show (i.e. he wasn't feeling too good last night) is, in my estimation, a lot better than changing his mood just for the half hour of live broadcasts - as Jonny seems to do. ”
Alex sulked and flounced through last weeks 'task' too.
As for Jonny hectoring Tim into taking the call, that turned out to be the right thing since Tory Boy seemed like a different person afterwards. Everyone looked pleased for Tim except his best mate who lost a little face.
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“Originally posted by pistonbroke
The other HMs have been very cruel to Jonny. He has been up for eviction 3 times alreadly and his family have to come such a long way every time. Let's hope they are not inconvenienced again untill the night he wins ”
“Originally posted by pistonbroke
The other HMs have been very cruel to Jonny. He has been up for eviction 3 times alreadly and his family have to come such a long way every time. Let's hope they are not inconvenienced again untill the night he wins ”
I know it's such a shame
Wooster - Is it any wonder Alex doesn't like doing the tasks? Both times he won, it put him in a awkward position. I think that's why he doesn't put his all into them now. I do think Jonny was worried about taking the call, in case there was a sting in the tail and afterwards he'd find out he was up for eviction. I think the way Tim was bullied into taking the call was a disgrace, not just by jonny, but by all of them, with the exception of Alex, who said he wasn't going to force him into it. It turned out alright in th end, but they weren't to know that when they were bullying him into taking the call.
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“Originally posted by AHA
Wooster - Is it any wonder Alex doesn't like doing the tasks? Both times he won, it put him in a awkward position. I think that's why he doesn't put his all into them now. I do think Jonny was worried about taking the call, in case there was a sting in the tail and afterwards he'd find out he was up for eviction. I think the way Tim was bullied into taking the call was a disgrace, not just by jonny, but by all of them, with the exception of Alex, who said he wasn't going to force him into it. It turned out alright in th end, but they weren't to know that when they were bullying him into taking the call. ”
“Originally posted by AHA
Wooster - Is it any wonder Alex doesn't like doing the tasks? Both times he won, it put him in a awkward position. I think that's why he doesn't put his all into them now. I do think Jonny was worried about taking the call, in case there was a sting in the tail and afterwards he'd find out he was up for eviction. I think the way Tim was bullied into taking the call was a disgrace, not just by jonny, but by all of them, with the exception of Alex, who said he wasn't going to force him into it. It turned out alright in th end, but they weren't to know that when they were bullying him into taking the call. ”
Alex did make a good show about how terrible he found winning the tasks...but that was in front of those he condemed to the poor side. His comments to Adele in the bedroom on many occations showed that he LOVED being on the rich side and the decisions weren't that hard really...the only thing he found hard was making up reasons that he could tell people!
Alex wimped out of the decision making because that was the easiest thing to do to avoid the risk himself maybe? He certainly didn't rise to the difficult task they'd been set to decide who'd take the call, so he should not have had any money to spend as he failed the task!
1) There's no way that Jonny suddenly cares about Tim, he's been completely indifferent to him. He's even suggested to others who'd he'd like to be with in the house, Tim not being one of them.
2) Alex, Kate and to an extent Jade knew the score and decided to keep well out of it.
Jonny took the bait. There was an opportunity there and he went for it. In this instance it may have been better to talk less, the others were a bit smarter in this respect.
2) Alex, Kate and to an extent Jade knew the score and decided to keep well out of it.
Jonny took the bait. There was an opportunity there and he went for it. In this instance it may have been better to talk less, the others were a bit smarter in this respect.
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“Originally posted by pistonbroke
The other HMs have been very cruel to Jonny. He has been up for eviction 3 times alreadly and his family have to come such a long way every time. Let's hope they are not inconvenienced again untill the night he wins ”
“Originally posted by pistonbroke
The other HMs have been very cruel to Jonny. He has been up for eviction 3 times alreadly and his family have to come such a long way every time. Let's hope they are not inconvenienced again untill the night he wins ”
It must be all of four hours on the train and I guess BB foot the bill. Plus imagine all the free beers when other passengers realise there going to see Jonny. A nice weekend break I would say.
My opinion for what it is worth...
He has been accused of assuming the decision that wasnt his to assume, by forcing Tim to take the call... well I am sorry the decision was indeed his to assume as both Kate and Jade said it was between Tim and Jonny. and Alex said he didnt care. so therefore Jonny was in full right to express his views as the others took themselves out of the equation.
I think he was right to say that Tim needed the phone call more than him, but also I dont think he really had that much choice... Would have been quite heartless knowing the state in which Tim was after the video and given the crowd shouting. I dont see any reason to critisise him for it, nor make out he's so magnanamous either...
So basically I think this has blown out of proportion and we are trying to read too much into it.
Mireille
He has been accused of assuming the decision that wasnt his to assume, by forcing Tim to take the call... well I am sorry the decision was indeed his to assume as both Kate and Jade said it was between Tim and Jonny. and Alex said he didnt care. so therefore Jonny was in full right to express his views as the others took themselves out of the equation.
I think he was right to say that Tim needed the phone call more than him, but also I dont think he really had that much choice... Would have been quite heartless knowing the state in which Tim was after the video and given the crowd shouting. I dont see any reason to critisise him for it, nor make out he's so magnanamous either...
So basically I think this has blown out of proportion and we are trying to read too much into it.
Mireille
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“Originally posted by Arnold
Oh dear... Yet another BORING "I hate Jonny" thread. ”
“Originally posted by Arnold
Oh dear... Yet another BORING "I hate Jonny" thread. ”
T'would seem so, still it passes the time eh!
Jonny takes Phone call = selfish bastard.
Jonny doesn't take phone call = conniving bastard.
Alex doesn't take phone call = grown up, mature blah blah blah.
I don't care for either of them much but.... no I'll save me breath as I've a feeling it would be wasted on this thread.
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“Originally posted by fan-at-ic
Scary to think there are people in society that can see such scheming in people behind such bland actions. The whole task was pretty pathetic, and the idea that refusing to accept a call from your family, or trying to get someone else to take it could have such deep and devious motives seems the mark of deranged mind to me!
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“Originally posted by fan-at-ic
Scary to think there are people in society that can see such scheming in people behind such bland actions. The whole task was pretty pathetic, and the idea that refusing to accept a call from your family, or trying to get someone else to take it could have such deep and devious motives seems the mark of deranged mind to me!
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What we might be mistaking is that half the postsewers here are the family and friends of the housemates.
Jonny allegedly said as much to a friend (was that in a newspaper?).
Part of the strategy of winning the game is to have a team of supporters active on all the newsgroups paising your every move and throwing doubt on all the other HMs.
It's just a game: and anything that smooths the way is a must ...
This is funny, it seems whatever Jonny does with some of you he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
I reckon you've all got the hump, because you were so sure he was going to convince them all to let him have the call, and are so gutted it didn't go to plan, so he must have some ulterior motive, very funny. I'm no Jonny fan but I thought he did alright by Tim, and everyone was pleased for him after except Poppy.
If push come to shove, then I'd lean towards Alex over Jonny, but Alex (sorry Poppy) came out of it worse.
I reckon you've all got the hump, because you were so sure he was going to convince them all to let him have the call, and are so gutted it didn't go to plan, so he must have some ulterior motive, very funny. I'm no Jonny fan but I thought he did alright by Tim, and everyone was pleased for him after except Poppy.
If push come to shove, then I'd lean towards Alex over Jonny, but Alex (sorry Poppy) came out of it worse.
Yet another anti-Jonny thread, it's becoming SO BORING.
Jonny is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by some people (fair enough) but the crap thats been spouted on this thread is truly laughable.
A sham, do me a favour. The two HM's who came out of last nights task looking like two complete p***ks were Tim and Alex. Firstly Tim for turning on the waterworks (again), The poor guy must bathe his bloody t-shirts in onion juice.
Secondly Saint Alex yet again showed his iron backbone last night. Can this guy make a decision? I think I'll sit on the fence, again. He deliberately didn't even attempt to get the questions right as he didn't want the phone call himself and secondly so that the shopping budget would be reduced still further so the other HM's could not order too much booze as they might enjoy themselves. This would be frowned upon by the thought police aka, Alex and Tim.
It's nice to see differing views but I'm just waiting for the day which may not be far away when a new thread is started along the lines of 'Jonny goes to the toilet, a sham if ever there was one'
Jonny is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by some people (fair enough) but the crap thats been spouted on this thread is truly laughable.
A sham, do me a favour. The two HM's who came out of last nights task looking like two complete p***ks were Tim and Alex. Firstly Tim for turning on the waterworks (again), The poor guy must bathe his bloody t-shirts in onion juice.
Secondly Saint Alex yet again showed his iron backbone last night. Can this guy make a decision? I think I'll sit on the fence, again. He deliberately didn't even attempt to get the questions right as he didn't want the phone call himself and secondly so that the shopping budget would be reduced still further so the other HM's could not order too much booze as they might enjoy themselves. This would be frowned upon by the thought police aka, Alex and Tim.
It's nice to see differing views but I'm just waiting for the day which may not be far away when a new thread is started along the lines of 'Jonny goes to the toilet, a sham if ever there was one'
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“Originally posted by PiggyOut!
Jonny did quite clearly hector Tim into taking that call, I'm sure Tim would've preferred to leave it. ”
“Originally posted by PiggyOut!
Jonny did quite clearly hector Tim into taking that call, I'm sure Tim would've preferred to leave it. ”
Bollocks would he!
You could tell from the moment that Tim read out details of the task that he wanted to take the call. Yes, he did a bit of "oh no you take it, Jonny" but at the end of the day, he wanted it to be him.
This is because he is selfish and arrogant.
Pandini
These people are all adults who sit and talk about when they lived Japan/Germany and various other countries. Jade lived in her own flat until she got evicted, thats the only reason she's living with her mum!! So why do they continually make a big fuss about seeing/phoning their families. It's not been that long for gods sake! If Jonny was that concerned about his "ma and da" he wouldn't be there in the first place, I'm sure Alex is only there to escape his parents (have you seen them?). The line "I need to know they're alright" accompanied by a stifled sob is just ever so slighly crap, if anything happens to any of their parents or family I'm sure they would be told.
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“Originally posted by spankysinnocent
Yet another anti-Jonny thread, it's becoming SO BORING.
Jonny is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by some people (fair enough) but the crap thats been spouted on this thread is truly laughable.
A sham, do me a favour. The two HM's who came out of last nights task looking like two complete p***ks were Tim and Alex. Firstly Tim for turning on the waterworks (again), The poor guy must bathe his bloody t-shirts in onion juice.
Secondly Saint Alex yet again showed his iron backbone last night. Can this guy make a decision? I think I'll sit on the fence, again. He deliberately didn't even attempt to get the questions right as he didn't want the phone call himself and secondly so that the shopping budget would be reduced still further so the other HM's could not order too much booze as they might enjoy themselves. This would be frowned upon by the thought police aka, Alex and Tim.
It's nice to see differing views but I'm just waiting for the day which may not be far away when a new thread is started along the lines of 'Jonny goes to the toilet, a sham if ever there was one'
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“Originally posted by spankysinnocent
Yet another anti-Jonny thread, it's becoming SO BORING.
Jonny is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by some people (fair enough) but the crap thats been spouted on this thread is truly laughable.
A sham, do me a favour. The two HM's who came out of last nights task looking like two complete p***ks were Tim and Alex. Firstly Tim for turning on the waterworks (again), The poor guy must bathe his bloody t-shirts in onion juice.
Secondly Saint Alex yet again showed his iron backbone last night. Can this guy make a decision? I think I'll sit on the fence, again. He deliberately didn't even attempt to get the questions right as he didn't want the phone call himself and secondly so that the shopping budget would be reduced still further so the other HM's could not order too much booze as they might enjoy themselves. This would be frowned upon by the thought police aka, Alex and Tim.
It's nice to see differing views but I'm just waiting for the day which may not be far away when a new thread is started along the lines of 'Jonny goes to the toilet, a sham if ever there was one'
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i've never read such rubbish. how exactly did Alex not attempt to get the questions right? his were very difficult, he said Jade for the one about Ancient Egypt because she has visited the place which would make it a reasonable guess.
As for Tim crying did you have a go at Pj and Kate last week?
Oh and yes I am an Alex supporter, but I don't hate Jonny I am indifferent.
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“Originally posted by AHA
Wooster - Is it any wonder Alex doesn't like doing the tasks? Both times he won, it put him in a awkward position. I think that's why he doesn't put his all into them now. I do think Jonny was worried about taking the call, in case there was a sting in the tail and afterwards he'd find out he was up for eviction. I think the way Tim was bullied into taking the call was a disgrace, not just by jonny, but by all of them, with the exception of Alex, who said he wasn't going to force him into it. It turned out alright in th end, but they weren't to know that when they were bullying him into taking the call. ”
“Originally posted by AHA
Wooster - Is it any wonder Alex doesn't like doing the tasks? Both times he won, it put him in a awkward position. I think that's why he doesn't put his all into them now. I do think Jonny was worried about taking the call, in case there was a sting in the tail and afterwards he'd find out he was up for eviction. I think the way Tim was bullied into taking the call was a disgrace, not just by jonny, but by all of them, with the exception of Alex, who said he wasn't going to force him into it. It turned out alright in th end, but they weren't to know that when they were bullying him into taking the call. ”
Oh, yeah I can just imagine it.
cue Marcus Bentley
This week Jonny will face the public vote, to evict Jonny call 000000000...........YOU DECIDE.
Some of these Alex fans are sooooooo keen to have a pop at Jonny they don't care how stupid they make themselves look.
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“Originally posted by Eejay
Jonny, as always, is playing the game and playing to win - continuously fooling the big audiences pulled in by the Channel 4 shows. For the true two-faced Jonny you need to watch plenty of E4 and what you get is something very different !
Jonny offering to let Tim make the phone call was a complete sham totally in line with his performance throughout BB3. The aspiring actor should go far in his new career - as he put on a spectacular performance on last night's live task show.
Johnny stating that dim Tim was more deserving of the phone call prize was counting the votes !( When has Jonny shown any concern for Tims feelings ?).
But Jonny knew the viewers at home would just love it ! Always conscious of his image Jonny knew that by making such a move he would appear to be such a selfless gentleman and get him one step nearer to that grand prize and all the other rewards that follow on ! Jonny the T.V presenter - yuk ! !
Alex, who does genuinely care about Tim and who can see
right through Jonny, could not bring himself to advise his mate Tim to make the call ! ”
“Originally posted by Eejay
Jonny, as always, is playing the game and playing to win - continuously fooling the big audiences pulled in by the Channel 4 shows. For the true two-faced Jonny you need to watch plenty of E4 and what you get is something very different !
Jonny offering to let Tim make the phone call was a complete sham totally in line with his performance throughout BB3. The aspiring actor should go far in his new career - as he put on a spectacular performance on last night's live task show.
Johnny stating that dim Tim was more deserving of the phone call prize was counting the votes !( When has Jonny shown any concern for Tims feelings ?).
But Jonny knew the viewers at home would just love it ! Always conscious of his image Jonny knew that by making such a move he would appear to be such a selfless gentleman and get him one step nearer to that grand prize and all the other rewards that follow on ! Jonny the T.V presenter - yuk ! !
Alex, who does genuinely care about Tim and who can see
right through Jonny, could not bring himself to advise his mate Tim to make the call ! ”
Alex, was so angry with his nil score at the task, he didn't care who got the phone call. If any thing,I thought the person with the top score (in this case Kate,)should have got the call. But when the Nice Jonny chap,gave his reason for Tim, I thought yes he is right. Tim was getting paranoid, and as you can see, it worked. I was LOL at the face on Poppy. He went off to bed early, Tail between his leg's.
I am not a big Jonny fan, but as I watched it last night I was trying to decide whether Jonny was acting or not.
I really dont think that this was a sham (and I dont think Im naive). Tim has been boring everybody all week and talking of walking, earlier yesterday he was moaning to Jonny about how hes not happy. i think they all just wanted to shut him up!!
By the way, do you guys watch E4 or the streams or do you rely heavily on edited CH4????????
I really dont think that this was a sham (and I dont think Im naive). Tim has been boring everybody all week and talking of walking, earlier yesterday he was moaning to Jonny about how hes not happy. i think they all just wanted to shut him up!!
By the way, do you guys watch E4 or the streams or do you rely heavily on edited CH4????????
After watching Ch4 biased editing of trying to make Jonny the natural winner, it's very refreshing to read so many anti-Jonny posts & realise that intelligent viewers are not being duped. I get so annoyed after each programme that unless they show the others in a more favourable light & more especially Alex's hilarious one-liners, in the next week, I'm going to go on holiday a week earlier as I really cannot bear the thought of staying here just to see Jonny emerge as the glorious winner.
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“Originally posted by Lucytash
in the next week, I'm going to go on holiday a week earlier as I really cannot bear the thought of staying here just to see Jonny emerge as the glorious winner. ”
“Originally posted by Lucytash
in the next week, I'm going to go on holiday a week earlier as I really cannot bear the thought of staying here just to see Jonny emerge as the glorious winner. ”
D'you want me to tape it for you?
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“Originally posted by spankysinnocent
Yet another anti-Jonny thread, it's becoming SO BORING.
Jonny is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by some people (fair enough) but the crap thats been spouted on this thread is truly laughable.
A sham, do me a favour. The two HM's who came out of last nights task looking like two complete p***ks were Tim and Alex. Firstly Tim for turning on the waterworks (again), The poor guy must bathe his bloody t-shirts in onion juice.
Secondly Saint Alex yet again showed his iron backbone last night. Can this guy make a decision? I think I'll sit on the fence, again. He deliberately didn't even attempt to get the questions right as he didn't want the phone call himself and secondly so that the shopping budget would be reduced still further so the other HM's could not order too much booze as they might enjoy themselves. This would be frowned upon by the thought police aka, Alex and Tim.
It's nice to see differing views but I'm just waiting for the day which may not be far away when a new thread is started along the lines of 'Jonny goes to the toilet, a sham if ever there was one'
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“Originally posted by spankysinnocent
Yet another anti-Jonny thread, it's becoming SO BORING.
Jonny is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by some people (fair enough) but the crap thats been spouted on this thread is truly laughable.
A sham, do me a favour. The two HM's who came out of last nights task looking like two complete p***ks were Tim and Alex. Firstly Tim for turning on the waterworks (again), The poor guy must bathe his bloody t-shirts in onion juice.
Secondly Saint Alex yet again showed his iron backbone last night. Can this guy make a decision? I think I'll sit on the fence, again. He deliberately didn't even attempt to get the questions right as he didn't want the phone call himself and secondly so that the shopping budget would be reduced still further so the other HM's could not order too much booze as they might enjoy themselves. This would be frowned upon by the thought police aka, Alex and Tim.
It's nice to see differing views but I'm just waiting for the day which may not be far away when a new thread is started along the lines of 'Jonny goes to the toilet, a sham if ever there was one'
”
The point of all this "Jonny's damned if he does, damned if he doesnt" stuff is that those who have been nauseated by his behaviour are pouncing on everything he does. Lets face it he does inspire strong "anti" feelings in a lot of people. I've always tried to take a dispassionate view of the man but I can see where they are coming from.
Given J's track record in the house it is understandable that the prime time opportunity to look "sacrificial" was one that he couldnt let pass. Had he really been the family man he purports to be he would have jumped at the chance to talk to Joanne or his mother. He caught a brief, much exploited, glimpse of them on PJ/Kate's night. Not enough one would say for a man who allegedly sets such store by his family.
Did any one notice the look of pure evil that Kate and Jonny shot at Tim when they were sitting on the couches after he had his phonecall.
Talk about total daggers, I think Jonny regretted selling out his family for a few votes from the masses.
Talk about total daggers, I think Jonny regretted selling out his family for a few votes from the masses.
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