Can someone please confirm if Johanna has definately dumped Tim?

During the conversation that Tim had with his mother she said that Johanna is fine. You can't read into that because she's unlikely to say otherwise and I think she addressed it without Tim asking because she saw how much he was concerned. However, it seemed to put Tim's mind at ease.

Candy

Well Tims' Mother was hardly likely to tell him he's been dumped on live TV was she! .... & I quote "listen Tim, Johanna sends her love & we all love you very much" ...... Hmm, somehow not quite so convincing when you look at it now was it?

Any thoughts?

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I dont know but I hope he has been dumped.If she didnt want him to go in the house he should have respected her wishes.Serves him right.
I reckon she has dumped Tim otherwise I think his mum might have said a bit more on the telephone.

Is she hasn’t watched any BB she may not have dumped him.

If she has seen any of the show, it’s safe to say she’s his ex-girlfriend.

I find this Johanna stuff confusing.

After all, she was there live on BBLB when Tim went into the house and was interviewed by Dermot. I certainly didn't get the impression that she was against him going into the house.

I read in the paper last week (think it was the sun) that she had dumped tim, and gone back to sweden.

She should also have respected his wishes to go into the house. It works both ways. They could have both compromised and entered the Weakest Link

Im sure running round the house getting ready to go to work....I heard Helen on GMTV say hes been dumped!

I thought Tim said she was flying to Sweden after he had gone into the house anyway and he wanted to know whether she had defo gone or not when the greetings were shown to PJ and Kate.

I agree: did you notice that Tim's Mum jumped in with her remarks *before* Tim could even ask about his g/f; saying everything was "cool". And she spoke too quickly, as if she was trying to say it before Tim could ask any questions: that did not sound like a relaxed tone of voice to me (though I don't know what she sounds like normally of course.) And her choice of words seemed quite odd. Overall I would say the the Tim / girlfriend situation was anything BUT "cool". hee hee

Jack

i think she knew she only had 40 seconds so she had to speak fast. but yeah i hope hes a singleton now - noone in the free world would shag him after bb.

Was she really his girlfriend or just made up for the telly. I think he needs to come out of the closet and reveal his true self.

Yeah I bet he rented for the afternoon from an agency for BBLB the day he went into the house

Why would she have dumped him? He hasn't been unfaithful - he might have been flirty, but if that was enough to destroy their relationship then it can't have been too strong in he first place!

+ As we all despise dearest Timothy, I think he needs as much support from his family and friends as he can get. It's a bit rough on him if his g/f dumps him for no good reason!

Andrew

I don't actually believe they were that close but that she was someone he could introduce to friends etc as his girlfriend.
Convenient she spends most of her time in Sweden.

If Tim's Girlfriend is shallow enough to go out with a ****** like him, then she is probably shallow enough to dump is @ss because he is the most hated HM.

I just hope she dumps him so we can watch him cry on Friday.

I also saw that and am puzzled as to why she went along.
But, during her interview with Dermot she did say that she was "going back to Sweden".
Also......if Tim was to get a phone call, wouldnt you think Johanna would have been the one on the phone had she been around, knowing how much Tim was fretting? I do!

What a fine, reasoned email.

As to the phone call, I would guess that Tim's mum said something about Johanna straight off because she knew that was what he would be concerned about.

If she has split with him, why the hell would any of you be glad about it? You don't know the guy!!! Sure, he might come over a bit posh and could be construed as your typical 'upper class twit' but he's been honest all through his stay in the house. Sure, he's taken part in the back-biting which every housemate has, but can anybody tell me the reasons why Tim produces the hatred shown in the email above? Or, perhaps, is it the person writing the email who could be the shallow one?

altho' the call started 'Johanna's fine, she sends her love', the call finished 'we all love you and we'll be here for you when you come out'... suggesting MAYBE that the Tim support mechanism will kick in not just for BB but mainly when he gets the news he's been dreading... it's just possible, especially as the rest of the message was so carefully ambiguous.

You want reasons. I'll give you reasons...
These are the facts as I understand them.
1. Tim went into BB house
2. His girlfriend didn't want him to
3. Therefore, he went against her wishes and went in the house.

My arguments (1 & 2) *may* be wrong, but assuming they're right, then my conclusion (3) is correct, then We know something about at least one dimension of his personality: ie the "ignoring girlfriend's wishes - following girlfriends wishes" dimension. He is clearly nearer the "ignoring" end, and in my book that's out of order. He is too selfish to be in a relationship, and I would be glad for her if she had dumped him.
Remember we're not talking about a disagreement about bathroom tiles: being on BB can have major life consequences for participants and their family.

That sufficient answer for you Richey?

Jack

I did notice that, but I put it down to the fact that Mrs. Tim knew beforehand that the call might only last for 10 seconds, if they screwed up the task. So, as a concerned mummy, she naturally got the "Johanna sends her love" spiel out of the way first. And would she really have lied to her own son just to give him some short-lived peace of mind?

I wouldn't be relaxed either, talking on live TV to my vilified and anxious son with the clock counting down, but maybe I'm just soft. But I'm not a Tim fan, I hasten to add.

Jack,

The key phrase here is the 'facts as I understand them'. We obviously do not know the full story behind Tim and Johanna's relationship or what's caused any break up, if indeed that's what has happened. As you say yourself, you are assuming, therefore these aren't facts. Is the hatred/dislike of Tim, therefore, based on assumptions?

So, in answer to your question, no, it's not a sufficient answer I'm afraid. I repeat, what has Tim done to produce the hatred which is shown to him in places on this board?

Watching the phone call for about the third time last night, my boyfriend was convinced that Tim's mother had a coded message in the phone call to him.

"JOHANNA sends her love"
"Everything is COOL"
"Dad's broken his SHOULDER"

*giggles*

Now I'm sure Timmy's mummy is a lovely person and wouldn't do anything to upset Timmy on TV but then again... who knows?

She had to say something about Johanna as she knows that Timmy has been worrying and surely no mother would be so cruel as to say that he's been dumped by his g/f while in the house, but then again, why, except that maybe she's a totally honest woman, would she tell Timmy that Daddy has broken his shoulder which could give Timmy something else to worry about? Why not keep it quiet until he's out and tell him then and explain that she didn't tell him in the phone call as she wouldn't want him to worry.

Katie.

Confirmation that Tims (ex) girlfriend was not at the party when the messages to HMs were recorded - final para of article in Friday's Malvern News!


http://www.thisismalvern.co.uk/worce...S_LATEST0.html