Hmmmm.....so knowing a lot about films and current music is a sign of intelligence is it?

I have two degree's and many post-grad qualifications, but I'm not a film buff or a music buff so I'd obviously come across as being stoopid if those are the standards one's "general" knowledge is based on I've no idea who Hugh Heffner is (and don't really care either) but I do have a fair idea what is going on in the world and would say that my general knowledge is fair-to-middling - I guess it just depends apon the standards with which you judge it :-/

Are we then to assume you know all there is to know about everything?

If you know what is going on in the world you should know who Hugh Heffner is.

Although I am girl and not hot red blooded man even I know Hugh Heffner is. I am sure their isn't a man here who doesn't know who he is. lol

no point complaining about lack of intelligence. The clever ones are always turned on first and the thick ones held forth as peoples heroes (Craig and Helen for examples).....

Of course!

The point of the thread was not how much I know about things - in fact I'd freely admit to being hopeless on entertainment and sport type questions, I'm not amazing at geography and literature I have lots of gaps in too...the point is, that my LIMITED knowlege of these subjects still seems to go beyond what most of the housemates demonstrate.

In particular, I'd have thought that people who would submit to entering to show would do so because they have a real interest in entertainment.

Maybe the one thing the BB selection process has suceeded in this year is vetting out people who are wannabies and so this would explain it.

No...I'm not implying that knowing a lot about films etc is a sign of intelligence, and in particular not knowing about them is not a sign of stoopidity (sic). But I would have thought that of any subject, the housemates would maybe know more about that than anything - and if my limited knowlege seems to go beyond theirs then I end up wondering what if anything they do know anything about?....no one has yet suggested anything the housemates _have_ demonstrated a detailed knowlege of...I'd have thought someone might have pointed out that maybe PJ knows a little about the law...

Good point. I think this year Sunita, Sandy and Spencer were the ones intended for their intelligence...maybe PJ with a very "laddy" attitude. Sunita was too smart and walked asap. Sandy decided everyone else wasn't worth bothing with and eventually jumped ship....Spencer fell victim to the public rating Alex just higher (though I fail to see why personally). PJ kept any intelligence well hidden except in how he played the game maybe...

I'm not sure Craig or Helen were ever 'heroes' though? Craig won becuase of sympathy and Helen only stayed because whenever she was put to the vote there was someone even worse to get rid of instead....except right at the end when Dean and Elizabeth were voted out before her...there were two smart people who made it to the end though I thought?

Although I agree they lack the encyclopaedic knowledge and swift mental responses of the average poster to this forum I would defend Kate's "manipulative" comment. I definitely thought she was asking Sandy what the **** he meant by saying that - as well she might!

When I first heard her ask that I thought she was trying to say she didn't understand the word (she was a little drunk) and I assumed she'd just missheard him, but she asked again and I thought "is she pretending to be dumb to embarase Sandy?"...then I thought "is she actually dumb?"...watching it a 2nd time I realised that I thought she was asking "what the hell do you mean by that?" too...Its certainly clear from later comments that that's what she meant anyhow...

figured the same as you. anybody who doesn't percieve that to be the case would probably have to ask what the word 'manipulative' means!!!!.

i only came in on the last page of this thread and i am going back to read more. i am interested to see in what way diff peps are defining definitions of intelligence. i know that the honours paper i took in education failed to/found ?able most standard definitions of intellect (particularly IQ testing) - anyone out there heard of Cultural Capital (Jade is soooo in deficit)

Deerd
slightly worried that we (myself included) may get caught up in some sort of 'superior' tenor with this thread.

Quite! Hence my somewhat sardonic tone.

Lord knows I can be arrogant but people are assuming intellectual brownie points for knowing geographical locations and movie stars!

while i know that most consider the pink piece of pie the easiest to get, i've yet to asume that my ability to get a whole pie says anything more than the ?s worked out my way.

i am led to believe that potential hms are SUBJECTED bb's form of psychometric testing (the constituents of bb3 are almost enough of a case-study to prove that form of testing invalid - if a case-study were ever really needed in the first place).

admissions of arrogance are interesting [sic], but in your case are merely a tool to your argument (fair play). on the forum i've been sucked in by the likes of epicurus on the academically elite syntax/vocab game; this i regret.

scoring brownie points, at any level, is a natural inclination/imperative. i have no probs with this until it becomes comparative. then you have to account for qualatitive/quantative data, and it all gets terribly messy. epicurus has even gone so far as to suggest, on one thread, that only b1s & above are the intelligent peeps on the thread.

it all comes down to:

USING AND ABUSING INDICES

i figure you're not too arrogant to accept that as true.

hell!!!! if we had to start listing the letters after our name before each post it'd become pretty boring and largely unrepresentative of bb watchers.

Deerd
personally i don't care if a hm knows the capital of outer mongolia

OK - what I meant was that people were assuming a position of superiority on the basis of acquired knowledge much of which was of somewhat limited value.

Naturally I have nothing against popular culture being fairly notorious for whittering on endlessly about old tv progs and movies. BTW personally I much preferred Jodie Foster as Clarice Starling.

Anyway thanks to you I now have an obsessive urge to look up the capital of Outer Mongolia.

My final proof that Jonny is in fact just one step up from an aubergine:

After Saturday nights task and Alex got the question wrong about who would have Ancient Egypt as their specialist subject on Mastermind. He obviously got the question wrong as no-one in the house had mentioned it at all.

Alext to Jonny: I didn't know you were into Ancient Egypt

Jonny: I'm not, but I'd go and learn about it.

So Jonny you're so stupid that you if you had to go on a quiz show, you'd choose a subject you know NOTHING about! Genius - pure genius!!

Jonnys' stupid rating is going through the roof.
He should go and bury himself in the garden he is so stupid.
I don't care if he's learnt parrot fashion every fact in the whole world.
He can't find his arse with both hands.
Sue me.

there was no implied crit in my post honest.

granted aquired knowledge is a funny old thing and some of the most GK retentive people are those that (urgh b1ish...) peeps don't expect - yehah.... call me an old marxist ('you're an old marxist') but the binman is still as valuable/relevant as the brain surgeon!!!!

Deerd
glad to have Dr Dave stumped - ulum batour (spelling coulod be well out!!!!)

For this relief much thanks.

still reckon the spelling is dodgy - please feel free to use any bb down-time you may have to research this and get back to me.

while you're at it - why are docs called quacks?

off-meesage but i'm sure Dr Dave should know!!!!

Deerd
ohhhh the intellectual challenge/stimulation that is bb!!!

This is the bit where I point out that "Dr Dave" is merely a handle acquired from ER which I can't be bothered to alter between forums lest I forget what my name is - I have enough trouble with passwords! And lest anybody be filled with all-consuming curiousity - accountant. :'(

The COD reckons "quack" comes from "quacksalver" - quack being prattle in Dutch although lowlands doctors should be especially dodgy it doesn't say.

very forgetful too - but do remember that Dr Dave was sacked by Weaver mmmmm!!!!

nope - from the nosegays/protectors that docs used during plague epidemics. they looked like beaks>ducks>quacks.

ahhh let me in the house - GK task nay tother a ba'

Deerd
gonna stop being facetious - at least for a bit!!!

There I was thinking you were asking in a spirit of genuine enquiry.

And yes, I was most disappointed in Kerry as I've a bit of a thing about her - although she is, of course, no longer available having, understandably in my opinion, resolved her inner conflicts in a manner unfavourable to my gender.

And don't forget the classic conversation about what stars are:

Jade: They're craters I think.
Kate: No, they're bits of broken up planets.

and PJ's statement that a light year is about "17,00 years" (I forget the number).

too many classic conversation inaccuracies to forget - too little time.

Deerd
knowing that someone will publish a compilation book to beat all 'gaffe' compilation books. 'i like blinkin', i do'

When of course we all know that a Light Year is a year that has had some of the fat removed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry, that's about as seriously as I can take this thread.
But to answer the original thought: this lot do seem rather un-worldly.


Jack