Hi Lou
As a "lay person" (no offence taken BTW: by the implication that "lay persons" beliefs are necessarily incorrect) I'd like to draw your attention to a couple of things:

a) by "behavioural" I think you mean "personality": Behaviour is a function of Personality and Situation. ( B=f(P,S), as you no doubt know.) The behaviour would be the drawing, the situation would be the DOING of the drawing, and what would "pop out" of the equation (in a perfect world) would be the personality, P. Of course reality is not like that which leads me to point:

b) The chances of a psychologist actually learning very much from a single drawing are next to zero , given that there are so many reasons for a certain drawing looking as it does. Not least of which because of a lack of artistic ability on the part of the person doing the drawing !!!! (eg it would be scary to think what you could "deduce" from my self-portrait, as I can't draw for toffee!)

I think the sideshows are meant to be a bit of light relief and not taken too seriously.

JAck
lay person

I find it hard rememnering what is the psychiatrists opinion and what I have read here. Was it the Psychiatrists who earlier said Jonny had been acting nice because he wanted to look good when he was up for eviction? Now they seem tohave noticed he has taken the role of house comforter. They suggest that certain housemates are playing up to the camera, despite every housemate who has ever come out denying that they were playing to the camera (even those who came across badly and would have benefited from such a claim), yet have no suggestions for how they think people would behave if their were no cameras. Do they really think that the producers would have chosen 12 people like Alex and Tim who just want to sit down and talk or do nothing all the time?

Dont the BB3 psychologists talk rubbish...

Yep they do. But no more rubbish than the amateur psychologists on here

MGOM
grins

I think most of the time the psychologists are quite interesting and incisive. But sometimes they are asked to comment on stuff that you can only guess at (like what is it with Kate and Alex). Of course because they're paid to be clever and 'psychological' they cant just shrug their shoulders and say "I dunno, Alex is a werd dude" - they have to come out with something. That's when they start using big long words and talking b+ll+cks

Kev
you've hit the nail on the head: their role is to "be" psychologists so they have to come up with something (I assume we're talking Scott et al here, rather than the "sideshows") so they watch lots of video tape over and over until they can think of something "clever" to say. One thing that particularly irks me is when they try to give the impression that they know more than they do, by NOT saying what the alternative meanings are. (Psychology is about probabilities: there's quite alot of statistical analysis involved. )
To take an easy example: we were told earlier by one of the male psychologists that when someone says something and hides their mouth, it's cos they're lying. Possibly. But it could also be because they have got an itch. No single hand movement etc tells you ANYTHING much, despite the impression the Psychs are trying to give us, you have to view behaviour "in the round" to be able to give any interpretation at all. Scott particularly annoys me with her nonsense.

I would LOVE to see one of them be honest and say something like " How the fuk do you expect me to work out someone's personality from THAT ?!". Psychologists are not some kind of super-know-it-alls, they're just people after all, who've had a bit of training/education that we mere mortals haven't had.

Jack
merely mortal.

Now I know why channel 4 wanted Adele out, it was because they hope for romance with Alex and Kate. But I agree with other I don't think Alex wants to have romance with Kate, he doesn't like the girl and I can understand why.

Well said.

The analysis of body language is anything but an exact science. Some of what the psyches on BB have been saying is little better than pseudoscience.

When Alex pulled that little smile after orangegate there was another explanation that crossed my mind. He suddenly remembered the cameras and thought to himself, wryly, "Alex, you are making yourself look a ****".

What I really object to is that they are portraying these observations as fact, rather than as observations for which they have consctructed one plausible explanation.

i wouldn kno i sneezed and missed them

Al
I think you may have to change you epithet to "the wise", as once again you speak sense.
Your interpretation of Alex's behaviour is just as valid, and probably as true as the "professionals": I don't know as I didn't see the incident. But you're spot on, and as I've said before, they're trying (the psychos) to express OPINION as FACT: and they shouldn't.

Jack
thinks Alison should be on Sundays BBLB.

( wormy little impostor )

presumiably this only applies to alex, when it comes to jonny, anybody can have a pop and be correct?

Earlier this evening...Alex was talking to Tim, and mentioned to him that....for no apparent reason he keeps picking on Kate...and he can't help it.....it's just silly little things and it's beginning to get annoying.

Alex seems to be getting desperate, the only way he can get close to Kate, is if she's drunk out of her mind and probably doesn;t know what she's doing... and probably doesn't know what Alex is doing either

Where would Alex be, but for the Luminous Van...he totaly lost it when it went missing the other day...and blamed Jade for stealing it and decided to steal one of her bracelets

How Pathetic and childish!!!

It seems Alex has a Darkside and he could be about to turn...

Sky

No, the difference is whether you are commenting on observed behaviour or stating what someone else *must* be thinking.


In Alex case (the example) a fleeting smile signified something: we have absolutely no way of knowing what.

For Jonny in the pool his forced stripping of jade was unacceptable behaviour, period. In that sense it matters not a jot whether he was doing what he did in the spirt of fun or out of some repressed urge to overpower and ravish women.

It is not incorrect to say that Jonny acts to the cameras because his "commentary" sketches implicity acknowlege his awareness of them. It would, however, be incorrect to assert that he didn't gnuinely feel concern for Tim because we have no way of reading his mind ...

So what did the psych say about Alex and Kate having STRONG feelings for each other which, if they were prepared to admit to them first, could make for a lurving relationship!!!!

Get him a large hat and stuff it down his overblown gob

MGOM