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Jonny and Kate's stripping of Jade
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Mad Paro Cat
15-07-2002
Does anyone else think the shameful and disgusting stripping of jade by Jonny and Kate while she was in the swimming pool disgraceful? Jade was unable to protect herself against those two vultures, I found it pretty disturbing to watch. I would hope every right minded person in here would agree with me.
Last edited by mromega : 15-07-2002 at 02:30
homer911
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Mad Paro Cat
Does anyone else think the shameful and disgusting stripping of jade by Jonny and Kate while she was in the swimming pool disgraceful? Jade was unable to protect herself against those two vultures, I found it pretty disturbing to watch. I would every right minded person in here would agree with me. ”

you would think so, but in the thread about the smile which alex gave kate every right minded person would agree that the smile was nasty but people still condoned it. lawyers will defend their client even if he knows there guilty. its the same case here were fans will defend their favourites even if they know there wrong.
Mad Paro Cat
15-07-2002
erm, if you could stick the topic that I'm posting about in this particular thread it would be appreciated, thanks.
magsiesss
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Mad Paro Cat
Does anyone else think the shameful and disgusting stripping of jade by Jonny and Kate while she was in the swimming pool disgraceful? Jade was unable to protect herself against those two vultures, I found it pretty disturbing to watch. I would every right minded person in here would agree with me. ”

I posted this yesterday

Unfortunately it is true - Jonny, Kate and Jade went into the pool. Within 5 minutes Jonny had taken off Jade's bikini bottoms (although the camera was mainly on the chickens).

In thread http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...threadid=30786

What I did not realise at that time, was that Kate was actively assisting Jonny.

In answer to your question ... yes it does disturb me this this kind of behaviour seems to be a matter of 'fun' for some people. As I previously stated in the thread above, this kind of behaviour is not acceptable in my books.

This is not the first time that Jade's bikini bottoms have been taken from her either - again, see previous thread.

I personally do not like this sense of 'humour' and find it degrading - I would have serious problems with Kate and Jonny.

In addition - why is Kate lowering herself to Jonny's standards?
Hammy
15-07-2002
Totally agree with you, and this is not the first time her bikini has been taken off her without her consent. Isn't it strange that it is always Jade that is picked on to get naked as well.
HandyBendyWendy
15-07-2002
I must admit that I thought it was strange that Kate was joining in, it looked to me like Kate was pinning Jade's arms too.
Mad Paro Cat
15-07-2002
magsiesss> I didn't see your thread yesterday and I only saw the footage tonight, but I agree with everything you said, Jonnys and Kates behaviour was shocking and utterly reprehensible, I could only feel immense pity for Jade beacuase there was no-one to help her, despite her pleas, as those disgusting proceesings were taking place.
homer911
15-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Mad Paro Cat
erm, if you could stick the topic that I'm posting about in this particular thread it would be appreciated, thanks. ”

i was, you said that right minded people would agree with you. i just said that right minded will still stick up for their favourite and bash the oppusition what ever the situation.
Mad Paro Cat
15-07-2002
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“Originally posted by homer911


i was, you said that right minded people would agree with you. i just said that right minded will still stick up for their favourite and bash the oppusition what ever the situation.
”


and those comments were trying to take the thread into a completley different discusion and were ultimately irrelevant. If you wish to discuss people sticking up for their favourites I suggest you start up a new thread, we're discussing something completley different here, thanks.
Lilith
15-07-2002
I probably wouldn't go as far as to call them sexual molesters - but I take your point in using that terminology. I did think it was totally out of order - and I was frankly shocked (though after the drinking game incident and the conversation about it late Friday night/Saturday morning, I shouldn't have been) at the way Kate participated. I'm not at all keen on Jonny so was less shocked by his initiation of this 'fun' game, because I don't really expect much more of him.

I'm not Jade's greatest fan, but I find it very disturbing that she is the one who's always the butt of these so called 'jokes'.
The Tired One
15-07-2002
the way was treated by jonny and kate was beyond a joke-why were they not summoned by bb and warned of their conduct defies belief.

this sort of thing happens everydayday in the real worl, and when we read about it in the papers there is usually a tragic consequence (eg rape)

if this had happened in my street, i would be calling the police-remember jade was not consenting at any stage.

i have complained to ch4...i await their reply...which i shall post on DS
HandyBendyWendy
15-07-2002
If Jade doesn't win then maybe she can get her compensation by sueing them for sexual harrassment?
The Tired One
15-07-2002
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“Originally posted by HandyBendy
If Jade doesn't win then maybe she can get her compensation by sueing them for sexual harrassment? ”

win or not win, jade should press charges...as a minimum, she should express her concerns to bb.
Tess
15-07-2002
I've noticed before that Kate alligns herself with the boyz by colluding in the humilation of Jade as some sort of house whore. From my point of view right minded women don't assist in the debasement of other women - they would try to protect them against it.Kate seems to have assigned herself the role of 'good girl' to Jade's 'bad girl'. I know this is going to be unpopular but I find Kate curiously cold and cold-blooded in the way she cultivates relationships - both flings with Spencer and Alex seemed calculating rather than motivated by any real passion. Going back to that scene it looked too much like assisted assault for my liking. I for one would have cheered if Jade had slapped both their faces.
Mad Paro Cat
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by The Tired One
the way was treated by jonny and kate was beyond a joke-why were they not summoned by bb and warned of their conduct defies belief.

this sort of thing happens everydayday in the real worl, and when we read about it in the papers there is usually a tragic consequence (eg rape)

if this had happened in my street, i would be calling the police-remember jade was not consenting at any stage.

”

exactly, I couldn't agree with you more. This incident must be considered with extreme seriousness, do channel 4 really want molestation to be broadcast to the general public? if jade sues channel 4 as a result of this then I say good luck to her.
johnno
15-07-2002
Did she go to the Diary Room to complain?
If not, seems she would have a weaker case if later she decides to take civil action... and I don't see why it might not be an option if she wanted to pursue it? But how embarrassed was she, did she laff it off or get upset? Important stuff.

But what happened WAS unacceptable, full stop. Maybe Jonny was hoping that the girls would strip him and give us all another opportunity to view his allegedly long danglee bits which he is so fond of.

Silly ppl.
The Tired One
15-07-2002
the more i replay those scenes, the more disturbing it gets...because it really happened...it wasn't 3 actors on location shooting a scene for a film (well perhaps equity card holder jonny's the exception)-this was real!
Mad Paro Cat
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by johnno
Did she go to the Diary Room to complain?
If not, seems she would have a weaker case if later she decides to take civil action... and I don't see why it might not be an option if she wanted to pursue it? But how embarrassed was she, did she laff it off or get upset? Important stuff.

But what happened WAS unacceptable, full stop. Maybe Jonny was hoping that the girls would strip him and give us all another opportunity to view his allegedly long danglee bits which he is so fond of.

Silly ppl.
”


Johnno I don't agree with the way you're light-heartedly treating this subject. I'm not the biggest fan of Jade, in fact she's my least favourite housemate out of the lot of them. However the 'game' that Jonny and Kate were playing was way out of order and if that'd happend in any public area I think we'd have seen an arrest taking place.
pRy
15-07-2002
It was very childish and should have stopped before the bra came off.

I just saw the replay, Jades hands where held by Kate to stop her preventing Johnny from undoing the bra. She took it well, because personally, i'd have turned and hit one of them. That was imo a sexual assault. Sure, pool pranks such as a girl pulling down a guys shorts happens, but for a girls hands to be held together while a guy undid her bra and fully removed it... thats going too far. And for him to them place it out of reach, she would have to expose herself to get it..... thats damn right childish and cruel. Can you imagine Jade holding Kates hands while Johnny did it to her? No. I can't, and I know why, becuase Kate would put up more of a fight and be very upset by it... is Jade seen as being some sort of sexual retard or something?!

First the drunken strip game, now this... you wonder if Jade will have a case for legal action when she gets out, against the BB producers... unless of course, she wins.
Emzi
15-07-2002
My Mum has just reminded me that Jonny once described Jade as "his babby sister" - yet he and Kate have twice delighted in making sure that Jade appears nude and humiliated.

Firstly, last week, they made sure she was drunk then rigged the stripping game so that she could only lose.

Yesterday, Kate and Jonny actually physically stripped Jade of her bikini <b>themselves</b> in the pool. Even though Jade tried to laugh it off (as she has had to do on so many occasions in the BB house) ...it made pretty disturbing viewing. Surely another woman [Kate] would have seen what was going on and helped her out rather than happily joining in the border-line molestation of Jade.

Frightening.
The Tired One
15-07-2002
you wonder if Jade will have a case for legal action when she gets out, against the BB producers... unless of course, she wins. [/b][/quote]

am i missing something here? why should winning bb3 make any difference?
pRy
15-07-2002
I think BB have gone too far in letting this sort of incident happen. IT should be inappropriate behavour and punished.

I hope Jade wins, I really do hope Jade wins after seeing that incident.
pRy
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by The Tired One
you wonder if Jade will have a case for legal action when she gets out, against the BB producers... unless of course, she wins. ”

am i missing something here? why should winning bb3 make any difference? [/b][/quote]

70,000 makes a difference. IF Jade wins BB3, all will be forgotten, its just the way it would happen. But if she gets evicted early, her mother may make noises. Im not suggesting she will, or anything... but if Jade wins BB, her mum isnt really going to care about a pool bra incident really.
HandyBendyWendy
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by johnno
Did she go to the Diary Room to complain?
If not, seems she would have a weaker case if later she decides to take civil action... and I don't see why it might not be an option if she wanted to pursue it? But how embarrassed was she, did she laff it off or get upset? Important stuff.

But what happened WAS unacceptable, full stop. Maybe Jonny was hoping that the girls would strip him and give us all another opportunity to view his allegedly long danglee bits which he is so fond of.

Silly ppl.
”

Of course she didn't go to the diary room to complain, because she already knows that shes struggling in popularity in the house, she was laughing while protesting loudly at the same time. She would have not wanted to alienate her housemates nor the public. Can you imagine how it would have been if she had grabbed her things and marched off to the diary room to complain, the others would have thought she was just being a moany bitch. I thought her laughter was a mixture of embarrasment and the need to be seen to be a part of the 'fun'
Tess
15-07-2002
Johnno: The worrying thing about Jade is that she seems to accept abusive situations as normal (hence I don't think she would complain). Depending on the type of person you are you could either choose to exploit the 'abused' mentality or guard her against it. I like to think most people would choose the later.

I agree with previous poster Kate ( and I suspect her parents)would have been screaming blue murder if this had happened to her. But jade doesn't count does she? Jade should definately be in the last 3 and if she wins I for one wont be complaining.
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