Sorry everyone for starting a new thread, I know this subjects been covered already, but it's the first time I've been able to start a new thread. lol

Anyone who's read my posts before know I have a real dislike for Jonny, but I'm starting to go off Kate big time too. On last nights CH4 show, I was sitting watching them playing fussball, then running up and down the stairs for the cameras, I was cringing and thought "What are they like?!" They are SO full of themselves it's sickening. Worse was to come, when it showed Jonny and Kate basically bullying Jade in the pool. They have been having wee digs at Jade all weekend, while I dont like the girl, she was quick to be condemned when she bullied Sophie. It was a disgrace, taking her swimsuit off then taking it out of the pool. In sobriety, not after drinking, may I add!! What are they going to do next, stick her head down the toilet and flush?!! Anyone who says Jade enjoyed it, is not very observant, she was laughing, as she SO much wants people's, Kate & Jonny's approval, for that reason that's why I think she did the strip the other night, she thinks it made everyone like her.

Jonny and Kate have obviously decided THEY are THE STARS of BB3. I've a feeling the CH4 editors are going to start to show a lot more of Jonny's personality, which the rest of us have seen on E4, not before time!! I think Kate's making a BIG mistake being drawn into Jonny's gameplan. Before everyone starts saying about Alex's shenanigans with Adele and Kate. They are both well rounded adults, who consented to carry on with Alex, in what was a bit of harmless fun. Jade's vulnerability and eagerness to be accepted is being abused by both Kate and Jonny.

....and the award for least needed new thread goes to.........

Generally agree AHA. As a Kate fan I was shocked by her complicity with Jonny in the pool and am thinking twice.

I have just read in another thread (Complain to Channel 4...) that this incident screened on E4 was followed by Jonny and Jade removing Kate's bikini..though this wasn't shown on the edited CH4 highlights.

Doesn't alter the fact that Kate joined in with Jonny in the first place...but does give a wider picture.

sorry Straker I couldn't resist starting a new one lol

I agree with AHA here. I never did like Kate though and her weird behaviour is more apparent now.

Doesn't matter that it's a new thread. I thought AHA has encapsulated several thoughts into one place

[quote]kate and jonny think THEY are the stars of bb3[/Q
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thats because they are!

the programme would have been better with Jonny,Kate and Alison not involved.

Tim referred to them both as Tweedledee and Tweedledum for a reason .. and if the house is a “stage” (of sorts) then they are the two who act out most to the audience.

I do so agree with AHA that the public might just get to see much more of the real Jonny this week as he struggles to “perform” and the focus is intensified … the public are going to see much more of his *real* personality as the spotlight gets a more rounded view of each of the remaining housemates.

I think most of us who have watched E4 can quite easily see that Jonny should have the most cause for concern due to his depressive nature (what is it that they say about clowns, “tears of a clown”.. ) and how his fake laughter/sincerity is being used to mask darker more repressed emotions.

I think the way people are labelling them bullies is just depressing...

And all these people that think Kate has been nasty to Jade recently... Jade actually came out saying how much she now liked Kate because of how they've got on over the last week or so. Mindyou, this was a Sunday night. Still up to her old tricks? or genuine this time? How Kate can even give her the time, I don't know - but I guess a lot of you still don't actually know how much Jade said about Kate seeing as Alex's conversation with Kate was never shown (disgusting editing).

I think some people on this board need to grow up and realise the difference between bullying (Sophie) and a bit of fun, which resulted in much laughter from all involved. Sophie felt very uncomfortable in that house thanks to Jade and Tim (who cheered her up? Jonny and Kate)... Jade seems to like both Jonny and Kate and seems to have stuck by those 2 recently. Bullies? Or just playmates? I think the latter is closer to the truth.

Very fair point Gazza71, I honestly would prefer this to be the case, hopefully I am wrong, but from where I was sitting, I didn't think that was the case. I wish everyone who didn't agree, could respond in the way you did, with a well thought out reply adding to the debate. Instead of reverting to insulting other forum members. Nice one!!

Sophie was visibly upset by the bullying - Jade, on the other hand was laughing her girlish head off during the pool strip.
That's what I saw.

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“I think some people on this board need to grow up and realise the difference between bullying (Sophie) and a bit of fun, which resulted in much laughter from all involved”

Couldnt have said it better myself. It was just horseplay and Jade was lapping it up, laughing and enjoying herself.

I'm very surprised that females are dismissing it as horseplay, would you have thought it alright if it happened to you then on national tv?

Well from your post it seems that Jade is almost getting as bad as Kate for backstabbing and bitching. I was impressed with Jade at the beginning when she declined a message from her mum and decided to have a party for herself and the other HMs. I was also impressed when she sat down with Kate across the divide one evening and gave her some really good advice, when she was worried about her parents etc. For her pains Kate nominated Jade the following Tuesday. When Jade was crying in the bedroom, all Kate could say was I bet she's talking about me. Kate has continuously slagged off Jade, when I can only think of 1 instant when she slagged of Kate. Jade has said she doesn't know where she stands with her, she did say she "wasn't all that" and that she had "wonky teeth". But everytime I watch BB lately Kate is making some comment about Jade, or indulging in games which have only 1 purpose and that is to humilate Jade. Jade was wrong with her attack on Sophie, but Sophie knew Jade did not like her, and Jade made no effort to disguise this. When her behaviour was pointed out, Jade also had the decency to say she was sorry. Sophie in an interview has also said she holds no grudge against Jade and says that she was just easily led.

Jade genuinely does believe that she is getting on better with Kate, little does Jade know the depth of backstabbing that Kate et al. have been carrying out. But don't worry its still only Jade up to her old tricks.

There have been many instances. "Kate, dodgy bird", "Kate you have to watch her" - "kate not even pretty", just some quick examples. I suppose u get to see more when u have E4.

AHA - yes of course. If i went in for a £200 a week competition, all food and board paid with the prospect of winning £70K and had been living with 4 others for nearly 2 months and new them well - i would have thought it all good fun and rather hoped it would be on TV as it would give me more exposure and more people talking about me.

Oh! That's what we are doing here isn't it!!!!!!!

I agree someone pulling off anothers clothes is not horseplay .

they are showing jade how much power they can have over her and it is the worst form of bullying that you can do.

As Kate had her bikini taken off straight after why isnt there any fuss about "poor Kate being molested"?

A lot of posters are all taking this out of proportion and only seeing half the story. I found it very disturbing how some people here can distort the truth to suit their own hate campaigns.

I have no hate campaign, I don't hate anyone. I've just become increasingly disappointed that people can only see faults in one particular HM, when they all have those faults. The continual onslaughts against Jade have been unrelenting, both in the house and in the national press. I just feel sorry for the girl, maybe its the Bermondsey connection (I live there). Personally I wanted Spencer to win - then I wanted Kate. Now I want Jade to win, to help her get away when this is over.

Jade was laughing because she wants to feel part of it. She doesnt want to object too much for fear of being "left out".
I saw Kate egging Jonny on in taking off Jade's clothes and it was Kate who threw them out of the pool where Jade couldnt reach them.
Bullying? Yes......but disguised as "horseplay"

i think most people find the fact that kate held jades arms whilst jonny stripped her. i think jade showed amazing resiliance ...personally i would have smacked kate one in the chops , and given jonny a good kneeing.but then the funny jonny and kate brigade would have gone off on one.
i really liked kate and jonny ,mostly when allison was in the house...then it was fun,fun.fun.i don't imagine allison would have found much fun in what has been going on lately along with a lot of the public.
come on jonny and kate stop the performing and go back to being a good laugh..not at anyone's expense though!

Did they show that part.....Kate losing hers........to be honest Iv lost interest .......got a horrible feeling BB3 is going to let Jade win and yes Im also beginning to think BB3 work this game and us stupid lot out here let them.....would like just for once for all those polls that are done every week to be wrong.....

Anti Kate & Jonny thread disguised as genuine concern for a girl being bullied.... Yeah!

Can we please get over this... Jade has been stripped on numerous occasions by PJ and others, and then most recently Jonny and Kate. Apparently Kate was then stripped and the exact same done to her...

It was a bit of ****ing FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN! Jade was LAUGHING! HAHAHAHA - You know...

Oh yes, but you know best! She hated it every second of it, it was like being raped! It was disgusting how channel 4 showed it, because Now! Someone is going to go out and rip a girls clothes off even if she says "no!" Yes, this incident will cause rape and assaults on women to go up like never before. Without a doubt!

Sorry, but I've never heard so much bollocks in all my life.


As for KimWims dribble - well, I've said it too many times now... she won't change her mind, she sees what she wants to see, it seems.

"For her pains Kate nominated Jade the following Tuesday"

This was the week Sophie said to Adele "I thought Jade didn't like Kate?" - Adele replied "Some people are just like that i guess"... Meaning Jade had obviously said quite a few negative things about Kate. I've heard some of what she's said, but no doubt there was a lot more.

Every housemate in there knows Jade is the two faced one who has said something bad about every one - hence her getting nominated by everyone. You seem to completely neglect this.

I agree Jade is 2-faced, she has slagged off virtually every one in the house. All I keep saying is that Jade is no worse or no better than everyone else. They're all bullies and 2-faced. I just don't like to hate/pig campaign being carried out against Jade in the media and in this forum. I blame a lot on C4/E4 editing but believe there is no one housemate who I feel deserves the money.

Sorry to bore you with my dribble, but I am entitled to my opinion, regardless of whether you agree with it or not.

We've had one person on the board say that Kate had her bikini removed by Jade and Jonny. This is after Jade had been stripped of hers. We have Jonny and Kate fans using the excuse that just because Kate was second in line to recieve a forcible stripping, that it was ok for them to have done it to Jade before hand.

My point is, do we have any evidence that Kate was forcibly stripped at all? I was watch the E4 feeds at the time, and they just went to chicken cam, so you couldn't see anything of what was going on. It wasn't until they showed it on the highlights show last night, that you actually knew what happened in the pool. No evidence was shown afterwards to prove that Kate was on the receiving end as well.

I'd like to know, where this person who states so vociferously, that Kate was stripped as well, got her information from. 'Cos after all, with all the discussion going around on here and other forums of what happened, she's the only person who's mentioned this, and everyone else that's bringing it up, is quoting her as gospel on the matter.

It just seems to me that Kate and Jonny fans are clutching at straws in bid to justify their actions. Now I've said this, I'm waiting for hoards of people to say they saw Kate stripped as well. If you do, please could you supply me with some evidence to support you case.

Jonny and Kate are not bullies.Jade has already stripped,of her own accord and made a prat of herself so Kate are just taking the mickey and having a laugh.Whats wrong with that?
Im beginning to wonder whether everyones wet.Jade loves the attention anyway,dont say she doesnt coz thats obvious!