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What a pair of overgrown Bullies!!
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jp44
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Tracy
We've had one person on the board say that Kate had her bikini removed by Jade and Jonny. This is after Jade had been stripped of hers. We have Jonny and Kate fans using the excuse that just because Kate was second in line to recieve a forcible stripping, that it was ok for them to have done it to Jade before hand.

My point is, do we have any evidence that Kate was forcibly stripped at all? I was watch the E4 feeds at the time, and they just went to chicken cam, so you couldn't see anything of what was going on. It wasn't until they showed it on the highlights show last night, that you actually knew what happened in the pool. No evidence was shown afterwards to prove that Kate was on the receiving end as well.

I'd like to know, where this person who states so vociferously, that Kate was stripped as well, got her information from. 'Cos after all, with all the discussion going around on here and other forums of what happened, she's the only person who's mentioned this, and everyone else that's bringing it up, is quoting her as gospel on the matter.

It just seems to me that Kate and Jonny fans are clutching at straws in bid to justify their actions. Now I've said this, I'm waiting for hoards of people to say they saw Kate stripped as well. If you do, please could you supply me with some evidence to support you case.
”

What i saw & heard on Saturday afternoon was on the internet feeds.

They showed Jade,Jonny & Kate in the pool,but then the chicken cam kicked in.

I went over to the other feed,where Alex & Jonny were watching from indoors and Tim commented that they were now doing it to Kate,"serves her right for doing it to Jade".

When the other feed went back to the pool,Jonny had returned Jade's bikini,but now it was Kate's bikini that had been removed and she was in the pool asking Jade & Jonny to get it for her.

The mood amongst them seemed completely fine and they were all laughing.
SugarHiccup
15-07-2002
It's a pity the bullying of Sophie which lasted for a couple of weeks, wasn't done during a game that lasted a few minutes. Maybe then, Sophie wouldn't have looked so despondent and upset....maybe then should would have laughed her head off - same as Jade did!
SugarHiccup
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by nicola44


What i saw & heard on Saturday afternoon was on the internet feeds.

They showed Jade,Jonny & Kate in the pool,but then the chicken cam kicked in.

I went over to the other feed,where Alex & Jonny were watching from indoors and Tim commented that they were now doing it to Kate,"serves her right for doing it to Jade".

When the other feed went back to the pool,Jonny had returned Jade's bikini,but now it was Kate's bikini that had been removed and she was in the pool asking Jade & Jonny to get it for her.

The mood amongst them seemed completely fine and they were all laughing.
”

Thanks for the info
BIGmanIAN
15-07-2002
I think you people that post these threads just look for reasons to get people to get kate and jonny out - first it was "ahh they are just acting" but when the BB psychologist said that they where genuine you had 2 look for somethign else for people to dislike them **Should we bring the jonny peeing in the shower up again?, Nea 2 boring. what about jonny being a bully, Yea thats it.**

Pathetic.
jp44
15-07-2002
I've just been looking for some kind of proof as to what i saw & heard regarding the stripping of Jade & Kate on Saturday evening.

Unfortunatey the live updates stopped at 6pm.However if you go to

http://www.*************/comments.asp...=true&filter=1

and look at the Live Update posted by Jojo at 18:41:32 ,it seems someone else at least heard what Tim was saying.

Also,the post by Boba Fettish just before reminded me why Jade was telling Kate there was a camera in the pool.Kate said she wasn't bothered that she was naked because no one could see anything if she was underwater,Jade was winding her up saying there was a camera in the pool that saw everything under the water.
fatherjack
15-07-2002
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“Originally posted by daisyanne
As Kate had her bikini taken off straight after why isnt there any fuss about "poor Kate being molested"?

A lot of posters are all taking this out of proportion and only seeing half the story. I found it very disturbing how some people here can distort the truth to suit their own hate campaigns.
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( wormy little impostor )

get used to it daisyanne, its called double standard and the anti jonny brigade are full of it, they use kate as jonnies accomplis to further their cause. It is sooo boring, if I hated anybody that much I would see a get therapy!
AHA
15-07-2002
Fatherjack - I dont hate anyone that much, in fact, I dont hate either of them. I was just giving my take, I thought it was distasteful, that's all. If it's sooo boring, why are you taking the time to not only read the threads, but to reply to them too?
fallyhag
15-07-2002
What are you people on????

So to sum up your point, you would like to see Johnny and Kate out so we have more time to watch the crazy antics of Alex and Tim?????

I am assuming that you also love watching the open university and Songs of Praise.

Remind me to never come around to one of your parties!!!!!
Tracy
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by BIGmanIAN
I think you people that post these threads just look for reasons to get people to get kate and jonny out - first it was "ahh they are just acting" but when the BB psychologist said that they where genuine you had 2 look for somethign else for people to dislike them **Should we bring the jonny peeing in the shower up again?, Nea 2 boring. what about jonny being a bully, Yea thats it.**

Pathetic.
”

Did you hear the psychologist right? He didn't say that they were the 2 genuine people in the house. He said that they are always playing up to the camera, and if someone doesn't join in with them, it looks even more like they're playing up to the cams.

He also said, that Jonny feels the need to be the centre of attention. If somethings happening in the room, and the camera is obviously focussing on that, and not him. He'll do something to bring himself into the scene. One of the examples that was used, was when Kate was on the bed giving Alex a massage. Jonny felt the need to do some kind of commentary in order to bring himself into the scene as well.

It didn't sound llke he thought they were being genuine to me.
Tracy
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by nicola44
I've just been looking for some kind of proof as to what i saw & heard regarding the stripping of Jade & Kate on Saturday evening.

Unfortunatey the live updates stopped at 6pm.However if you go to

http://www.*************/comments.asp...=true&filter=1

and look at the Live Update posted by Jojo at 18:41:32 ,it seems someone else at least heard what Tim was saying.

Also,the post by Boba Fettish just before reminded me why Jade was telling Kate there was a camera in the pool.Kate said she wasn't bothered that she was naked because no one could see anything if she was underwater,Jade was winding her up saying there was a camera in the pool that saw everything under the water.
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I've just taken a look at it, and it proves nothing. Tim said to Alex, 'Are they doing the same to her?', then Alex said, 'If they are, it serves her right. She deserves it'.

All this seems to prove, is that Tim and Alex felt it was wrong what Jonny and Kate and did to Jade, and they don't really know if the same happened to Kate or not. But, if by any chance, it did happen to Kate as well, that means that Jonny was involved in the forcible stripping of 2 girls in the pool, and 2 wrongs don't make a right!
fatherjack
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by AHA
Fatherjack - I dont hate anyone that much, in fact, I dont hate either of them. I was just giving my take, I thought it was distasteful, that's all. If it's sooo boring, why are you taking the time to not only read the threads, but to reply to them too? ”

( wormy little impostor )
fool that I am i keep hoping against hope that someone will argue against jonny using something other than their own personal dislike of him/his demeanour!
kmac
15-07-2002
If Alex and Tim felt what was being done to Jade was wrong then they could have intervened, if they were aware of it then they are responsible as well.
The Tired One
15-07-2002
[quote]Originally posted by gazza71
[b]Anti Kate & Jonny thread disguised as genuine concern for a girl being bullied.... Yeah

i actually wanted kate to win...so that's bollox to your theory inspector morse!
scorp
15-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Sparkles
Generally agree AHA. As a Kate fan I was shocked by her complicity with Jonny in the pool and am thinking twice.

I have just read in another thread (Complain to Channel 4...) that this incident screened on E4 was followed by Jonny and Jade removing Kate's bikini..though this wasn't shown on the edited CH4 highlights.

Doesn't alter the fact that Kate joined in with Jonny in the first place...but does give a wider picture.
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Why do we have such a fascination for disecting and analysing everything that the housemates do?..........they don't.....just leave them all be.......C4 did show the pool incident...complete with close-up of aforementioned bikini in soggy heap on edge of pool.....Jade was enjoying the fun.....why shouldn't she?.it's the sort of horseplay she likes and goodness knows there's little to amuse them in there.....and who are we to decide that she was or wasn't??........who appointed us as the BB house police???.......if Jade really didn't like what was going on she could have gone straight to the diary room to complain...(she didn't)....she could have told them in no uncertain terms what she thought of them (she didn't) she could have run off and told all to Alex and Tim (she didn't) or she could have decided that she'd keep quiet and nominate them both today.....(she probably will anyway)....there is something incredibly patronising about other people decideing whether someone else is capable of making their own minds up about how they like to be treated.............I know what would annoy me more!
LoNDoNcaLLiNg
15-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Tracy


I've just taken a look at it, and it proves nothing. Tim said to Alex, 'Are they doing the same to her?', then Alex said, 'If they are, it serves her right. She deserves it'.

All this seems to prove, is that Tim and Alex felt it was wrong what Jonny and Kate and did to Jade, and they don't really know if the same happened to Kate or not. But, if by any chance, it did happen to Kate as well, that means that Jonny was involved in the forcible stripping of 2 girls in the pool, and 2 wrongs don't make a right!
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It was high jinks/frolics - And a good time was had by all!
EddyBee
15-07-2002
AHA you are so right !
I am so sick and tired of friends of Jonny and Kate on these forums dismissing all other points of view as being merely anti- Jonny tirades.
Why don't they discuss the issues involved in this incident?

What happened to Jade in the pool last weekend was a disgrace and both Jonny and Kate were stone cold sober.This follows on from the sofa incident when a very drunk Jade was tricked by a far less drunk Jonny and Kate to take her clothes off.They even loaded the game against Jade.
What a disgrace ! Where did BB find these two deviants?

I think that Kate comes out of all this the worse - I cannot understand how any woman can put a sister through such bullying and humiliation luaghing all the time.

Eejay
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