Just ignore my posts which quite clearly negate all these stupid arguments.

If Kate is being nasty to Jade, then why, why, why? Is Jade talking about how much she likes Kate now?

And if that is bullying then get a bloody life! PJ did this to Jade a couple of weeks ago... He wasn't bullying her, they were having a bit of fun, just like Jonny, Kate and Jade were - hence them all ****ing laughing afterwards!

God, people annoy me. At least find a decent argument.

Alex just snapped at Jade there (and has done many a time over the last couple of days), and the other night ripped off her towel - where are the posts calling him nasty and a bully? Oh! there's none! Why? Because he's not one - but Kate is. yeah yeah.

Gazza: Kate used Alison as a security blankett. That is not the same as friendship.

When Kate appears upset, eg when PJs eviction was announced, Jade goes to her & comforts her.
When Jade is upset kate ignores her & Jonny steps in to comfort her

Alex pulled Jade's towel off because whilst Jade was naked she went running around the house and then tried to pull off Alex clothes for no reason while he was sleeping peacefully on the kitchen floor (and was quite successful if you believe the sunday papers).

I'm repeating this post about Kate and other girls in that house because I'm sick of people saying she only wants the male attention...

Who was Kates best mate at the start? Alison (a girl) - She went, and then Kate was on the rich side with Lee, Sophie, Jonny and Sandy. Lee and Sophie were all over each other, and Adele and Jade had formed a friendship which did not include Kate. Kate spent most of her time with either Jonny or Spencer.

Next week: Kate on the poor side with 3 guys - Spencer, Jonny and PJ (this was Alex's decision). Jade and Adeles friendship grows as the bitching increases.

Next week: Kate and Sophie are on the same side, and Kate is the only girl to actually give Sophie time, and help her out a bit. People seem to forget this.

Next week: There's 6 people on that side, and Kate actually seems to become quite pally with Adele. There is little bitching involved, she just got on reasonably well with her.

Next week: The only girl left with Kate is Jade, who has told people many a lie and hurtful things about Kate. Yet! Kate still puts up with her, and they seem to be getting along okay... Jade even saying yesterday how much she now liked Kate.

THE REST OF YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE


Personally, I see a girl who has been genuinely hurt and worried sick because of some the lies Jade has said about her (it really is a shame that channel 4 never showed how f'd up Kate was after hearing what was said), still giving her some time, and still trying to get on with her which Alex and Tim don't do. It's not being two faced - it's making the best of a situation. Do you think Tim or Alex could show the same patience with Jade if she was around them all day like she has been Jonny and Kate! Could they hell.

Ignore away...

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Gazza: Kate used Alison as a security blankett. That is not the same as friendship.


Yeah, yeah, if you want to believe the psychologists then go ahead. The same ones that think Alex and Kate have true feelings for each other.

It was friendship. Perhaps it was for security, but the fact remains, she was closer to Alison than anyone those first couple of weeks, and the only guy she really gave a damn about was Spencer.

gazza 71 -

I completely agree with your last post.
Although not perfect,Kate does seem to try to get on with everybody.

As regards her relationship to Jade,I think she's been a saint,especially this weekend where Jade has on numerous occasions tried to start an argument,making snide little comments left,right & centre.I don't think i'd have that kind of patience,erven if i was playing a game.

because he knows how Jade is like, she will twist what he says about this game, and also maybe he thought she was too thick to understand it in it's whole details. Somehow I doubt Alex would deny it if asked by Tim or PJ .

Absolutely agree with you on that! Kate, Jonny and PJ are the only hm's in the BB house that treat Jade as an Adult and don't placate her. BTW, I didn't see the show where Alex told Kate what Jade had said about her (how very decent of him) did he also tell her about what he and Adele said about her too, while he was about it?

Dont be silly!

I am sorry but Kate tries to make jade look really stupid all the time! its not on!

I've grown to like Kate more now that she has shown more of her real self. She has had to put up with a lot of nastiness from Jade. I saw Jade on at least 2 occasions recently trying to pick a fight with Kate and and acting badly towards her.

I find these

"Get [insert HM name here] out"

threads tedious.Quite frankly why don't you just enjoy the show for entertainment value purposes or turn off your telly...

instead of baying for blood and trying to influence people to become as obsessed as yourselves why not start a thread that is not insulting to any particular HM's traits and rather discuss the effect of living in a strange house with strangers and how different people cope in such an environment.

we live in a society that is obsessed by "tabloid tradition" is it really necesary to have these exaggerated displays of hatred towards people we've never met?

As it happens much of the discussion started because Alex told Kate that if she's evicted to ignore what he'd said about her in the past. When she asked him to elaborate he proceeded to set the scene for how his opinion was formed from how he had feeling that she flirted a bit which was reinforced by Lee and Sandy who not only agreed but made her out to be some sort of manipulative whore (my words not Alex's). He then went onto the weeks of the divide when he and Kate hardly spoke and Jade was the further reinforced his opinion of Kate with various intances of bad mouthing, notably that there was loads of fiddling going on under the covers between Kate and Spencer and implying that she was some kind of tart and that it was Adele that eventually changed his opinion on her. Alex admitted that him, Jade and Adele had all said horrible thing about her when the divide was up. Alex also apologised for taking the quilt off Kate and having a go when she was juggling oranges.

In short Alex was very honest in a long chat that reduced Kate to tears and understandably she was in tears the following morning (which was inadequately explained on C4). The only time he went a bit off was when he ranted about nominations and said he KNEW Jade voted out Spencer.

Jade could'nt nominate that week!

I realised that, I was dying for the HMs to cotton on especially when Kate, PJ and Jonny stayed up. Quote from PJ "It must have been Jade.....I know none of us would vote for Spencer" (cue deafing silence from Jonny)

I meant deafening!

Tess:

you're pathetic arguments are laughable.

the simple fact is that you are jealous of kate because she is funny attractive and intelligent. you are the one who brings woman down not kate.

Dee Girl, isn't that what the game is all meant to be about? It's not like we're calling for anyone to be really destroyed or anything. Just saying "get x or y out" is only saying don't let them be the one person out of the several thousand to apply to win the money, that's all. No one wants anyone harmed. It's just like the crowd yelling at a football match, nothing more sinister. Well, not in most cases anyway, although I was a bit horrified and sickened that someone was shouting "kill the pig" or something one eviction night.

Oi dont include me in that! I want kate to win

I don't usually agree with you about most things, but I do on this matter. Every weekend she goes into nice mode, and goes around to each HM saying how much she likes them. I remember Alex saying to someone once, 'Have you had your pep talk from Jade yet?'. So it hasn't gone unoticed. It worked very well for her early on, but now they're aware of her, it won't wash so easily wiht the others.

The game is not about trying to destroy peoples lives

Think of all the previous series the only anger has been directed at Nasty Nick and it was not malicious maltreatment he cheated and admitted it no one made vicious attacks on unsuspecting contestants...

I don't believe that the aim of the game is for the viewers to bitch endlessly

Pleased to see that people are actually beginning to realise what Kate is really all about. Never liked her from the start - her true colours are shining through! Maniuplative and nasty through and through get her out!

I laways love it when kate is on screen. I know I'm gonna get either some insightful talk or just a really good laugh. She so deserves to win.