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The "real" Alex revealed
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MichelleS
16-07-2002
Argh........................kate is not a thepian want to be..................she is a 22 year old girl in a house for 8 weeks and deciding to have a bit of fun and display her comical side
a hell of alot more appealing that than sitting on the couch with grumpy old men agreeing how intelligent they all are, how fabulous japan is, how the public must be stupid etc etc etc

Kate...............not playing to any cameras...............just having FUN
Ja©qui
16-07-2002
Am I really the ONLY ONE that thinks the whole show is a fast.....I know it cant be fixed (I think ) But Im beginning to think if we vote Jade out BB will fix the results and she will end up winning.....could they do that?

LadyKnight
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Ja©qui
Am I really the ONLY ONE that thinks the whole show is a fast.....I know it cant be fixed (I think ) But Im beginning to think if we vote Jade out BB will fix the results and she will end up winning.....could they do that?

”

No they can't fix the votes - the votes are independately verified as explained on earlier threads.

Please no more conspiracy theories about absolutely nothing.

LK - wouldn't mind Jade winning. But as none of them are going to share the money with me, I won't lose any sleep whoever gets to put the 70k in their bank account.
fruitbat
16-07-2002
Benson, I agree with you. Although it is a game show, it is supposed to be a reality game show. We should have real people on the show - not people like Johnny who have manufactured themselves in order to appeal to the majority of the voting public (after doing a lot of research). I personally don't see the point of voting for someone who isn't real but who is conning the public. We all want to see real people in the house not actors. Otherwise, what is the point. There might as well be a script saying who is going to win the money and the £10 million BB/Endemol have made is wasted.

Personally, I think BB/Endemol have messed about too much with the formula this year and have therefore lost much of the original point of BB ie real people in a house, interacting with one another.

Harshad
16-07-2002
Johnny, Kate and Jade are quite frankly tossers, at the end of the day the only reason why Alex has gone into depression, is because he dosen't like Kate Johnny or Jade and not surprising either, after all the effort that Alex made to get on with Kate, Kate repays him by nominating him twice!, it's not surprising that Alex is well pissed off with these lot, I would be too!
MichelleS
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Harshad
Johnny, Kate and Jade are quite frankly tossers, at the end of the day the only reason why Alex has gone into depression, is because he dosen't like Kate Johnny or Jade and not surprising either, after all the effort that Alex made to get on with Kate, Kate repays him by nominating him twice!, it's not surprising that Alex is well pissed off with these lot, I would be too! ”

[b]



How does alex know kate nominated him???
And what effort did alex make..............playing the van game when she was drunk??????
She isnt interested becasue he prefers to sit on the couch and have his ego stroked by toff boy
TSR
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by MichelleS
[b]



How does alex know kate nominated him???

Because there are two people up and they can only have three noms each, so it's pretty clear which people the 3 votes came from.
And what effort did alex make..............playing the van game when she was drunk??????
She isnt interested becasue he prefers to sit on the couch and have his ego stroked by toff boy
”

Oh dear. Alex had made an effort with Kate and he didn't nom her, she nommed him. How can you have a go at Alex when HE is the victim of being stabbed in the back to a degree?
MichelleS
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by TSR


Oh dear. Alex had made an effort with Kate and he didn't nom her, she nommed him. How can you have a go at Alex when HE is the victim of being stabbed in the back to a degree?
”

[b]



Eh.............hello.........the object of nominations is to nominate somebody!
And in fairness alex has stabbed kate in the back on a fair few occasions...........
kate realised on alex recent 'sit on the couch, moan and look sad behaviou' that surely he cant be an addition to a final week of fun the the house
spankysinnocent
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Harshad
Johnny, Kate and Jade are quite frankly tossers, at the end of the day the only reason why Alex has gone into depression, is because he dosen't like Kate Johnny or Jade and not surprising either, after all the effort that Alex made to get on with Kate, Kate repays him by nominating him twice!, it's not surprising that Alex is well pissed off with these lot, I would be too! ”

What a load of crap. The only tosser on view is baby Alex who has really excelled himself this afternoon with his infantile behaviour. 'Nominated, who me?'

The real reason Saint Alex has gone into depression is because he mistakenly believed that he was safe from noms this week after his alliance with Dim boy.

Little does Alex know that if Jade was up for nomination against the third love of his BB3 life (TIm) that the posh boy would be walking down those steps anyway. Some people seem to think that the whole experience will make Alex strong, well lets face it Alex cannot act or be any more weak that he already is.

Ok he'll be in the house with three other people he can't stand and apparently can't be bothered talking to but that's the way it goes. He's made his bed with his choice of friends now he has to lie in it. If he doesn't like it then he knows what he can do, walk.



LadyKnight
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by TSR


Oh dear. Alex had made an effort with Kate and he didn't nom her, she nommed him. How can you have a go at Alex when HE is the victim of being stabbed in the back to a degree?
”

The point that we're missing a bit here (I think) is that the housemates are not friends. At least not in any way I understand friendship.

They are all trying to win the money. Therefore their alliances shift, much like many viewers, who started off liking one hm and after watching how they were competing/acting (whatever) changed our minds and wanted someone else to win.

I can't imagine how any of them could act completely naturally except perhaps when they are drunk and forget momentarily they are being filmed.
LTT
16-07-2002
Quote:
“And in fairness alex has stabbed kate in the back on a fair few occasions...........”

Too right, agreeing with sandy she was the house whore, nominating her in previous weeks, making her cry on a few occassions. Did u want her to just change who she likes so alex wouldn't be nominated? The only thing the seem to have in common is follow the van! Alex even admitted this himself
Pushka
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by spankysinnocent

Ok he'll be in the house with three other people he can't stand and apparently can't be bothered talking to but that's the way it goes. He's made his bed with his choice of friends now he has to lie in it. If he doesn't like it then he knows what he can do, walk.
”

I think you'll find that's ... WE've made his bed with OUR choice of friends for him! He can't stand the ones left and we've voted out all the decent ones.

I can understand Alex's is a bit disappointed with K&J after they have had moans with him about Jade this week - still, at least he did shows a natural reaction, not one of those boring "I'm fine, I'm fine...I've been expecting it!" comments which the HMs usually give before going off for a little cry! Thank the lord for a bit of honesty!
Benson
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by mromega
One problem there Benson. Big Brother isn't a reality tv show it's a game show where obviously the key is to win. ”

I think it is safe to assume that one of the categories that BB comes under is 'reality TV'. I believe Endemol place it under the genre of 'real life soap'. If they themselves are placing under the title of 'real' then I believe my argument is valid.
accidie
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Pushka


I think you'll find that's ... WE've made his bed with OUR choice of friends for him! He can't stand the ones left and we've voted out all the decent ones.
”

Which decent ones?

Sandy walked, Adele was evicted, Alex now hates Jade and he's up for eviction against Tim this week. Who else has Alex bonded with? Who else was "decent"?
cword
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by fruitbat
Dee girl - great post.

Cword100 - I bet anything you are a Johnny fan!
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Just for the record I don't mind Johnny but i don't back him to win. The reason for the "tone" of my posts is simply that I really believe without Alex (whinging tosser) and Sandy (self-important miserable bastard) this years show would have been a riot. They (tried) to spoil the atmosphere from day one and thats why they piss me off. I tune in to be entertained and they didn't entertain me. Throw them to the lions I say!!! (now theres an idea for a task!!!
spankysinnocent
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Pushka


I think you'll find that's ... WE've made his bed with OUR choice of friends for him! He can't stand the ones left and we've voted out all the decent ones.

I can understand Alex's is a bit disappointed with K&J after they have had moans with him about Jade this week - still, at least he did shows a natural reaction, not one of those boring "I'm fine, I'm fine...I've been expecting it!" comments which the HMs usually give before going off for a little cry! Thank the lord for a bit of honesty!
”

?? Alex has made the choices of who he wished to be 'close' to not us. He does have a mind of his own you know, however I do have very serious doubts myself.

He won two tasks and picked his 'friends' two weeks on the trot and lapped up the adulation from his chosen HM's. Now the boot is on the other foot he spirals into depression. Hmm seems like a touch of sour grapes if you ask me.

If you ally yourself with Psycho Sandy and Adele the evil you deserve a bit of punishment.

Pushka
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by spankysinnocent


?? Alex has made the choices of who he wished to be 'close' to not us. He does have a mind of his own you know, however I do have very serious doubts myself.
”

With respect, that's a different point, and it brings up the question of whether it is better to pretend to like people you think are idiots and be two-faced about it, or be a bit more honest.
I'm still sure it is mostly the viewers who have decided who Alex is to be left in the house with...we could have voted Jonny, Kate or Jade out by now if we'd wanted to. Basically Alex can be close to whoever he likes, but we were always going to leave him with Jade, Kate and Jonny, given the opportunity. If things had been different, and Jade was up this week with Tim, it would still be Tim leaving.
I'm trying to explain, and probably tying myself up in more knots!
Harshad
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by spankysinnocent


What a load of crap. The only tosser on view is baby Alex who has really excelled himself this afternoon with his infantile behaviour. 'Nominated, who me?'

The real reason Saint Alex has gone into depression is because he mistakenly believed that he was safe from noms this week after his alliance with Dim boy.

Little does Alex know that if Jade was up for nomination against the third love of his BB3 life (TIm) that the posh boy would be walking down those steps anyway. Some people seem to think that the whole experience will make Alex strong, well lets face it Alex cannot act or be any more weak that he already is.

Ok he'll be in the house with three other people he can't stand and apparently can't be bothered talking to but that's the way it goes. He's made his bed with his choice of friends now he has to lie in it. If he doesn't like it then he knows what he can do, walk.



”

And watch Jade, Johnny and Kate, you got to be joking!
SugarHiccup
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by spankysinnocent


?? Alex has made the choices of who he wished to be 'close' to not us. He does have a mind of his own you know, however I do have very serious doubts myself.

He won two tasks and picked his 'friends' two weeks on the trot and lapped up the adulation from his chosen HM's. Now the boot is on the other foot he spirals into depression. Hmm seems like a touch of sour grapes if you ask me.

If you ally yourself with Psycho Sandy and Adele the evil you deserve a bit of punishment.

”

I agree!

Alex has only himself to blame. I bet someday, Alex will look back on all this....laugh nervously..........and change the suject!
That's supposing 'someday' Alex will grow up and realise what an egotistical prat he was.....but is not anymore coz he's all grown up. Well! it MIGHT happen
observer
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by MichelleS
[b]
And in fairness alex has stabbed kate in the back on a fair few occasions...........
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When did Alex stabbed Kate in the back since they cleared the air between themselves?
Deerd
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by cword100


As much as I'd love to see him disappear under the garden gate, I have to agree.
As to his allegence to Dim (oops typo! ) We shouldn't be surprised after alligning himself early on with that miserable scottish git Sandy . So we can add "poor judgement" to the list of Alex's star qualities
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cword100

i'm not far off agreeing with most of your views on this (your) thread.

just one point - and i'm not being over-sensitive just reasonable - 'miserable [...] git sandy would be just as, if not more effective, without the scottish bit. i've yet to assume that tim is arrogant or alex is a wimp because they are english.

Deerd
not intending to be petty, just don't want the substance of posts undemined by use of stereotypes.
EddyBee
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Sinner
Alex is SPINELESS! But he won't walk. This is just a ploy to gain sympathy from within the house and from the public who might feel he has been mistreated, especially by Kate. But did he think that by allying himself with Tim alone he wouldn't be up for eviction. ”

Alex spineless not ! It takes a hell of a lot of back bone to stay in that household with the likes of Jonny, Jade, Kate and their antics.
Had he been spineless he would have walked weeks ago ! (Sunita was spineless)
Alex deserves a medal !
Furthermore he has been putting up with the 3 degenerate monkeys whilst suffering all week with severe toothache.

Eejay
MattS
16-07-2002
Alex won't walk. What will happen is that Tim will go and Alex will get "influenced" by yet another housemate into thinking he should stay!

I have one question, does he have an original opinion?
EddyBee
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MichelleS
Argh........................kate is not a thepian want to be..................she is a 22 year old girl in a house for 8 weeks and deciding to have a bit of fun and display her comical side
a hell of alot more appealing that than sitting on the couch with grumpy old men agreeing how intelligent they all are, how fabulous japan is, how the public must be stupid etc etc etc

Kate...............not playing to any cameras...............just having FUN
”

And 'Kate having fun' in your eyes includes her taking an active part in the sexual molestation, humiliation and bullying of Jade on more than one occasion (on the sofa last week, in the pool last weekend) - does it !
I shudder to think what your social circle must look like when out having fun.

Eejay
Rennie
16-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by MichelleS
Argh........................kate is not a thepian want to be..................she is a 22 year old girl in a house for 8 weeks and deciding to have a bit of fun and display her comical side
a hell of alot more appealing that than sitting on the couch with grumpy old men agreeing how intelligent they all are, how fabulous japan is, how the public must be stupid etc etc etc

Kate...............not playing to any cameras...............just having FUN
”

Actually Kate is very much the thespian want to be. She has been in drama groups all through her youth and wanted to go to Drama school but decided against it due to the financial strain it would put on her family. As such she decided to take a job and pursue her showbiz ambitions with her own money behind her.
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