I am part of the nation. You are welcome to your own opinion, but don't presume to speak for me.

Thank you

Jade's rebirth only came about after she'd seen Mr. Miyagi, not before, after. Until she'd had the little halfway chat, and seen him, I doubt she had any intentions of changing the way she was conducting herself.

As for everyone who's been saying that she's done well to bring herself around, she's had to change out of necessity for survival, and C4/BB were running scared because of the way they'd portrayed her. Had she been left to her own devices, I doubt she'd have changed at all, and she'd have been out by now.

Pardon me for generalising.

The majority of the population wants her gone.

Better?

Yes Tracy, but that's the point, she's actually made the effort to change her ways, she realised herself that what she was doing annoyed a lot of people.

She will likely never change to become a sweet, quiet little Jade but she has shown that she has the strength to come through some very tough times and for that she should be commended.

Amen to that Tracy !

straker I notice that you do not comment on the other comparisons that I made, is that a case of selective reading? There have been many cases of housemates treating each other in abusive ways. The difference being Jade is louder, something which I personally do not think is bad enough to call her a pig.

So you wouldn't mind if we started calling you names then? as you seem to be displaying bad behaviour, by bitching about hm's behind their backs and insulting their physical appearance You will notice that I refuse to insult the housemates based on looks etc. I will not swear about them, as I think that it devalues my arguement.

I also think that the public think more highly of Jade than you think, which you could probably put down to people like you!

Totally agree. If it was not for the psychologist's intervention, Jade would be gone by now and probably Adele would still be in the house.

So Tracey are you perfect? If not how do you know how to change your ways? If people have never told you, and the way you are is all you have ever known, and that is the way of people around you, how will you know it is wrong until someone tells you?
I know that I am not perfect, and I appreciate when people point out to me things that I do wrong- does that make me a bad person for not being able to spot it for myself? no, it will only make me a bad person if I do not take it on board and try to change

Are you for real? I’m not in the house in case you didn‘t notice but you’re welcome to reply to my posts. As the only experience you’ve had of me is words on a page about one subject, it’d be foolish to think you know me well enough to say what my personality is like.

Difference with BB is that we’ve had the opportunity to see these people interact 24/7 over many weeks and my opinion of them is formed as a result of this. Jade is as nasty and useless a person as I‘ve ever seen on TV. That’s my opinion.

As to your first comment, I don’t deconstruct replies line by line every single time. I replied as I saw fit but suffice it to say, no-one else in the house comes close to Jade in terms of the number of people she’s backstabbed. Even evil Adele confined her hatred to a select few but Jade is an equal opportunities hater and slags everyone equally. Had to laugh when PJ confronted her and the only person she said she hadn’t slagged was him and yet he didn’t believe her. Hoist by her own petard? I think so.

If you want each of your reply points addressed in order - please keep them brief and to the point

"You mean, like the way Kate has been for the last few weeks."

You're seeing things mate.

"Let's face it: All that interaction with Alex was to save her cute little backside in the vote with PJ."

Not really, more often than not it would be started by Alex. He started the follow the van game that week (which she stopped pretty quickly), and he got in the bath with her. Kate actually said that there is no way anything would ever happen between her and Alex - channel 4 chose to edit this out.

"She and Jonny have been talking about the others behind their back, ensuring that they vote together, and she has got Jade onside."

Nonsense. Jade went with Jonny because he gave her some sympathy... Alex and Tim have no time for Jade, so Jade decided to stick with Jonny and Kate. Alex and Tim pushed her away to them, they didn't try to get her onside at all. Just peopl trying to have fun.

"Now, let's see if Kate is villified the way that Adele was."

She wont be because she doesn't bitch constantly and actually gives fair arguments for both sides when discussing (rather than bitching) about other people. You, of course want to see something different...

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.
I am not denying that she hasn't always been the nicest person in there, however I do think that every hm has backstabbed and bitched just as much as each other. At the moment it seems to be Alex and Tim who are doing all the bitching. I don't think that Jade can be singled out - I think it all depends on who is your fav hm, as to how much of the bitching you hear!

LOL....Don't know about others but I voted for Adele becasue I wanted to be able to switch my TV on without watching her sperad her poison....my opinions on her haven't changed.....Jade is still as irritating as hell, but not half as much as Alex and Tim, both of whom I have disliked all the way through the program.....I don't think Jade will win, but if she does then fair play to her, at least she takes on board what advice people give her.......

..as for alex and Tim.....YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......I hope Tim gets evicted, and wimpy alex ends up walking.......he should have had enough strikes to have been thrown out anyway...............now WE have to put up with his whiny voice for another week.....do us a favour Alex....don't just talk the talk....WALK THE WALK...right out the back door!!................

I agree

I wonder if Jade's being nicer now is because of her new set of friends ..i.e Kate and Jonny. When she was bezzie friends with Alex and Adele she was a complete horror! But Kate and Jonny seem to have a calming effect on her

True, but this is BB where HMs are normally left on their own to behave and correct themselves. There would be no problem in discussing what Jade did wrong but AFTER the show is over not in the middle of it to change the course of events. But as Jade got some advise on how to change her behavior because of how she could be perceived by the public, the other HMS (and particulary Adele) should as well had some advise on how to change their behavior . As things happened, Jade got an adventage over the other HMs, which is unfairf!

I loved Adele. She was gutsey, strong and intelligent. Why oh why does th gbp vote all the most interesting people out.


Last year's winner Brian : )
This year's winner jonny or Kate : (
If Poppy leaves why don't we just give the money to Jade and call the whole thing off.

I would rather you did not include me in your petty arguments. So for the record... your comment should read: I, and the nation "LESS 1" would disagree with you.

I am big enough to speak for myself.

Jade is lovely without the poison of Adele and Alex in her veins. She is bonding well with Kate now. She also now despises Adele LMAO! I hope Jade does well as she is worth 50 of Adele and Alex. Jade is having the last laugh at the expense of Alex and Adele who dumped her because they thought she was hated only to realise that she may well outlast them both. Jonny or Kate to win but Jade also deserves to do well. She is a good laugh.

I totally agree with you.

Eejay

Absolutely.
Remember what the psychologist said a few weeks ago: "Babba is dead. Now Jade must pay for Babba's crimes."

Aw, boo-hoo - did I mention you by name? BTW, I’d disagree with your last sentence.

ALL the housemates in EVERY series get to see the psychologist half way through .....They all had a "chat" with this guy and we dont know WHAT he told any of them ....so this argument isn't appropriate

From reading a few of your posts, you seem to have a little 'poison in your veins' too. Such hypocrisy.

Oh, I agree with you on the last bit. Jade has taken most
things in a good spirit and I'm happy she's made it to the
last week. She'll need all the positives she can get.

Oh yes it IS appropriate because it's SO OBVIOUS that he told her and advised her far MORE than what she should have known. BB made her change her behavior because of what people might think of her (her words) IS a fraud in a program like BB ('no influence from the outside world'). Either they do it for all the HMs, or to no one.