I hope all those people who encouraged everyone to vote Adele over Jade are proud of themselves now. We'll have an opportunity to vote out Jade in a normal eviction will we? Not now we won't, her relentless and malicious bullying of Sophie was overlooked, it seems that the public have given their blessing to it by the fact they kept her in the house.

Secondly after Kate and Johnny's bullying of Jade in the pool on sunday nights show, their fervent fans are still behind their two idols overlooking their actions.

So it's ok to bully then? I don't know about you but that's the message I'm getting. What a sick world we live in.

Ahh, funny you should mention that.... if my memory serves me correctly Alex's exact words to Adele were -
"I think your being a bit hard on Sophie." He has also never bitched about Sophie and was only guilty because he never told her about the bitching others were doing.

Yes I agree with this thread it is insane that Jade is in the house and personally I would'nt be supirsed if the obnoxius bully wins the whole thing! Anyway im still 100% behind Alex and think theres still a chance yet!

as Outlaw said, Alex tried to stop the bullying, I'm shocked that anyone is happy to see jade, jonny or kate still in the house after what they've done to other members of the house.

Ive seen suggestions on here that this was molestation, sexual assualt and bullying. If anyone feels it was sexual assault, then they ought to report witnessing it to the police. Thats IF they really believe this to have been the case.
As for bullying, if anything Jade seems a lot happier this last couple of days, hardly the usual reaction to having been bullied.
Is she a child or an adult? Has she attempted to avoid her bullyers? Has she complained to BB?
I suggest you think about it rationally.

Sorry but in my opinion he didn't try hard enough - would you have stood by and watched that happen without seriously challenging the main perpetrators? I certainly wouldn't. The general calibre of hm in this entire series of BB hasn't exactly been exceptional and I have to agree with Outlaw that Alex is one of the best of a bad bunch - his problem is the people he chooses to ally himself with. I am surprised however that you have excluded Tim from your rant about bullies - I thought his behaviour towards a girl he hadn't even bothered to get to know was absolutely vile.

"Secondly after Kate and Johnny's bullying of Jade in the pool on sunday nights show, their fervent fans are still behind their two idols overlooking their actions."

You're an idiot, Alex snapping at Jade constantly is far closer to bullying than taking a girls bikini off. Jade enjoys Kate and Jonnys company - they have a laugh together.

I don't believe Jonny or Kate are bullies, and I don't even think Alex is, but if we are going to use your arguments then he is as much a bully in that house as anyone.

Some of you people make me sick - I've heard people claim that not only is Jonny a bully - but takes part in sexual assaults now - How ****ing dare any of you compare that to real sexual assaults that are commited on a daily basis by genuinely f'd up people. You all make me sick - and why do you do it? To make sure your fave ends up winning a game show - pathetic.

Jade's enlightened comment in the DR : "They're all picking on me, but in a good way."

i think jades comments were very generous and just endeared her even more to the public...sure i heard a million peeps go "aaaahhhhhh, bless her" lol

Of course nelly - you'll still have a dig at Jonny for bullying her. Even though she has now said "in a good way"

I've tried on another thread and I'll try again. Given that I accept you are sincere in believing Kate and Jonny's actions amounted to abuse and molestation why do you continually insist that those of us who consider it to have been harmless though stupid horseplay are deliberately trying to cover up serious criminal actions?

Are you completely incapable of accepting that other people may witness the same events as yourself and yet come to an entirely different conclusion? Or do you seriously believe that we would lie about the matter in order to gain debating points on a MB!

gazza, wake up will you Jonny isn't the perfect specimen you would like him to be. If my only crime on this forum is to be honest then consider me guilty but the truth about these people needs to be told. It makes me sick to the stomach as to how bullying appears to be condoned, especially with the amount of eager youngsters that tune into BB every night.

did i mention jonny??? get the chip off your shoulder gazza!
i think jade was talking about all the hms...quite correctly too!
it's not just jonny i don't want to win , i don't care who wins so long as it's jade.lol
sorry for being sarky, gazza....hope you forgive me????

Hey back off mate.

I didn't say Jonny and Kates behaviour WAS abuse or molestation. I asked the question did other people think it was, I didn't say so either way.

I accept peoples opinions, that's cool, I'm just shocked at some of them.

Jade is a bully out side the house as well though (for anyone who hasn't seen it):

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002310473,00.html

Chris

"gazza, wake up will you Jonny isn't the perfect specimen you would like him to be."

Never said he was mate. Just said he wasn't a bully, and will add, that to think he is a bully shows a severe lack of intelligence.

"If my only crime on this forum is to be honest then consider me guilty but the truth about these people needs to be told."

It's not the truth though is it? And if you are going to accuse Jonny of being a bully, then you have to do the same for Alex and of course Jade, whose behaviour towards Sophie along with Tim, was the closest thing to bullying that has happened in that house.


"It makes me sick to the stomach as to how bullying appears to be condoned"

It makes me laugh that you consider that bullying, when kids are genuinely made to feel small and pathetic by nasty comments about the way they look and beaten up as well - Jade is not one of these people.

well gazza from what I see from your eloquent posts, perhaps I am guilty of caring too much. Then again I suppose someone has to in this day and age.

Well actually your initial post some days ago has now been, understandably, edited by the Moderators! In any event you certainly did refer to sexual molestation and the fact that you thought a police arrest would have been appropriate.

It's not in my opinion a matter of being shocked or not it's simply allowing that people with much the same attitudes towards harrassment, bullying, abuse etc can see the same event and come to directly opposite conclusions.

In short and being blunt it's the assumption of moral superiority that gives me the pip. Obviously though we're not going to agree any common ground over this so if you want to reply go ahead - I've said all I want to (sighs of relief from all and sundry).

Bullying MUST be ok .????..lets face it thats ALL that seems to go on in this forum at the moment .
If you state a view that isn't agreed with by a certain "group" they get personal and nasty .

Not a JONNY supporter OR an Alex supporter