The 'plant' theory is interesting but i just dont think they would ever get away with it. It is inevitable that it would have leaked out.
If Tim is a plant then he deserves an oscar.

Thanks Bob, now that's more like it!
I'd say that Alex fans who tear your comments to pieces are just as bad as the over the top anti-Alex people.

So far, you win the best 'Pro-Jonny' fan award!!

Firstly I am not putting words into your mouth and secondly I am far from pro Alex and I am well aware of his faults.

You do not like Alex which is fair enough, but you have just stated that you would like Kate or Jonny to win because you don't like the other remaining housemates, which is partly the point I am making. It seems a lot of people, and I accept this does not include everyone, want Jonny to win because they dislike Alex. I have not seen many posts added to this thread that outline Jonny's good points.

my apologies to you TSR and Mad Paro Cat

The plot thickens!

It does seem a bit odd that the passion (verging on obsession) of so many Pro-Jonny fans in this and other forums is firstly:

Not backed up with genuine reasons

Not backed up by media support (except local)

Not backed up by any BB fans I talk to in RL.

It is still extremely far-fetched, but it does make me ponder the possibility of the rumours being true. ie Jonny has planned forums to be full of pro-Jonny opinion. No offence to anyone, it of course couldn't possibly be true but it does make ya think....

*stunned at lack of reasoning so far*

Hang on. On the one hand you're saying there is a strange lack of support for Jonny on this thread. But on the other hand you're perpetuating the myth of the legions of Jonnys family and friends to inundate these forums with pro Jonny stuff??
If they were here im sure they would have filled this thread.
Its clear that he has plenty of support through times he's been nominated and by the polls.
And NO im not related to him.

I'm not perpetuating the myth, I don't believe it for one minute but because of this thread and the other points I just raised, It does make you think!!!! You know, wonder?!? You are alone Bob in your genuine praise and reasoning. Many Alex fans can give the same reasoning. It seems Jonny fans can't or won't without resorting to anti-Alex comments.

It's a bit of a mystery that's all.

Oh and the polls....could be explained if the forum rumour is true. Sorry! I'm perpetuating again!

Most people ive spoken to in the real world regarding the show seem to be Jonny and Kate supporters. And their reasoning for their support of either is pretty similar. Like to enjoy themselves and nothing really to dislike. Pretty boring i know but thats how it is. Perhaps they're not as passionate as those who dislike Jonny, but they're pretty large in number.
It sounds almost as if youre suggesting that there really arnt any Jonny supporters out there its all a rigging of the polls, the voiting and this forum. Youve lost perspective mate.

Bob, you're not really taking what I've written in the right way.
Thoughts are only thoughts.
I've already said that I don't believe the rumours, I'm just thinking aloud and trying to make sense of the evidence!

It's not my fault that this thread has just posed more questions than answers. All I wanted was to understand why Jonny fans were Jonny fans.

It's been dissapointing.
I'll stop thinking aloud I guess....

No, carry on, i like a debate as you may have noticed.
But surely any objective viewer of this forum can see that most of the particularly vitriolic and OTT posts on here have been against Jonny, thats why i feel i have to defend him. Ive read some ridiculous accusations, fabricated press releases about him being violent, thug, woman beater, all sorts of stuff. If it wasnt for that id be fairly ambivalent towards him. He and Kate would probably be my favoured choices though.

The accusations outside that Jonny went into this much detail with the planning are not inconsistent with what he has said in the house and with his apperent preparation.

Indeed, having a support team keeping relentlessly busy on newsgroups and forums like this would seem to be a pretty good tactic. Each might only be a few hundred readers but the influence, the voice, is much more influential on line than shouting at the C4 screen.

Tim and jade might be irrelavent(in that they will not win) but they are still good devices to keep people's attention of the real villains


It may well turn out to be Kate who has played the media best, or it might be her media contacts. She has sailed through the seies with little real attention other than being slim, blond and not too controvesial (mostly). Thsi year seems more about what people have done wrong than what they have done right: it has been to her advantage that way

I admire your perseverance Al. God loves a trier.

TSR, I asked this question on a thread a couple of days ago and I didn't get an answer either. I really don't understand how there can be so much support for someone when people cannot articulate their reasons for supporting that person.

I am beginning to think that it is because people do not like Alex that they support Johnny. Whatever, the topic people seem to want to insult Alex. He is different, not run-of-the-mill and people do not seem to like that this year. They would prefer to vote for Johnny who, to me, is not a real person at all. He is just a manufactured person set on winning a game show at any cost. So anyone voting for him is just voting for a "con artist". Thats my two-penny's worth anyway.

By the way, Alex has more sex appeal in his little finger than Johnny has in his whole body, and that is with Alex being in touch with his feminine side. Perhaps, that is part of the problem Alex is not a stereotypical sex symbol but has proved to be very attractice to women (both on and off the show) and I think that perhaps frightens some men.

I must say when I saw this thread, I thought at last we would see valid reasons for the support of Jonny. I was prepared to read objective reasons why I should support Jonny and not go for my gut reaction. Sadly Jonny's fans have not shown me any reason to change my mind.

Or perhaps thats why Alex gets as much support as he does. For Jonny to be still popular without charisma or sex appeal perhaps says something too.

Yeah, it says that some ppl simply cannot see what is in front of them, and we'll leave it to psychologists to work that one out.... but you do get 'em.

So come on all you friends of Jonny !
Where are you?
An ideal opportunity for you to tell us all why you like Jonny ? Can you not think of anything? Or are you just enjoying his oscar winning performance.

Aw shucks ... I forgot to praise him for eating his toe nails.


Vote Alex out ... lets keep Tim in for another few days ;o)

Im starting to quite enjoy the truly desperate attempts to discredit him. I can almost see the cogs turning.

That sums it up for me too actually.

Is that linked to the house? This year the requirement for reasons to nominate appears to have focussed the HMs minds on things that are wrong: almost as if they spend all week with the critical mind set looking for support for thier next nomination vote.

None of the candidates have really inspired me much: they have let too many wannabees in in part. maybe also too, the hostile nature of the house has almost certainly inhibited some from getting on.

Sophie: out of the hous is a complet bundel of laughs but in that pressure environment retreated.

Alex: certainly is getting more irritable. How many here could stay calm with jade SHOUTING all day ...

While not my personal favorite ... I reckon of all of them Tim and PJ are the only ones I could stick a week of let alone 9. Maybe Kate too if she had that pr*ck surgically removed.

well, I like the way when he smokes he takes a puff, doesn't inhale, and blows it out the full width of his mouth like kids do when they pretend to smoke, and the eyes wince as they are not actually blowing the smoke away so their eyes get all watery... it's kinda sooooo cute to see a 29 yr old man smoke like a dork, and for those ppl who find smoking and sex a turn on, he must be aversion therapy, so well done Jonny, we love yer for that!

Oh, and I loved that replay of the clip when Kate hands him his thick crusty big toe nail clipping, he takes it, examines it, smells it closely, gives it another lovely long look, smiles wickedly, and puts it in his mouth and chews and looks so chuffed with himself... I loved that about Jonny! A man for the common ppl!

Running around the garden barely able to hide his danglee bits between his legs from behind, and the many many runs around the garden so we could all check out his little bum... oh how we laughed! Cheeky monkey!

Oh, and the way he and Kate stripped Jade in the pool, well, we all laughed some more! Bless him!

And then there were all the sad bits. When he was on the rich side he poked his little head thro' the bars to the poor side so as not to miss anything, and when he was on the poor side he poked his little head thro the bars into the rich side so as not to miss anything, every day, whilst the right camera was on him of course. He looked soooo cute!

Oh and his antics with Alison, oh we all laughed some more again didn't we, and thought BB3 was gonna be one 18/30 expereince for us all! That was nice.

And just how he was just always one of the lads with an eye for the lassies... aye..... his mam and da were so proud.

and, well, there must be loads of really entertaining things he's done to humour us all for almost 7 weeks

I've come to a few conclusions, all of which are probably wildly innacurate but on the other hand are also possible

1) The polls and strong Pro-Jonny forum opinion are due to the Jonny camp purposely infiltrating, influencing and dividing public opinion. They cannot or will not discuss why because it's too time consuming and/or they don't have to - the work has been done...

Very unlikely

2) The passionate pro-Jonny/anti-Alex faction aren't capable of explaining anything fairly or unbiased in a mature fashion.

Unfair and unlikely

3) Alex is and has been Jonny's main enemy and people who dislike Alex are naturally drawn to him. They cannot explain in detail why they want Jonny to win because it is simply an anti Alex thing.

Probable

4) People who love Jonny are likely to be any of the following:
Northern
Common as muck
Thick as shit
Laddish/loutish
18-30 holiday go-ers
Hate Londoners
Ugly or hate very good looking blokes

Extremely unfair BUT....very probably true in some cases.

Just as I'll never understand why people prefer violence over peace, prefer ITV to BBC, hate Big Brother without watching it, hurt animals or have never read a book, I'll never understand why people want Jonny to win so much.

I thought I might but I haven't learned a thing (Bob apart)

Of all the possible reasons above, it is probably a mixture of them all but mostly #3s and I'm afraid a few combinations of #4s too. Sad but true.

I have been following this thread with interest as I too would like to know what makes Jonny so popular.

I have not particularly seen any support of him in the media etc and am not sure what this popularity is based on. Ch4highlights/evictions always seem to imply Jonny is popular as does BBLB and E4's ticker. .....Perhaps this is enough.

Unfortunately, although fairly new to this site, I have learned very quickly it is okay to post and respond to anti-Alex threads, anti-Jade threads, anti-Tim threads, anti-(dare I say) Adele threads anti-everybody except Jonny threads. This brings out the Jonny fans en-masse accusing all of the virtually unprintable.

Everybody surely is entitled to their opinions without abuse hurled at them. Here is the opportunity for Jonny fans to highlight his appeal and set the record straight and as you say, the response is very disappointing.

I really do wish they could come out and convince me of his merits...and then I won't feel so bad if he wins.

Sorry, its taken me an hour to post this, Mr. Sparkles suddenly had the urge........


..to ring his brother in Australia, so no internet for me.:'(
The thread is probably closed by now.

What conclusions can we draw from this thread?

There is very little to like about Jonny. Even his own fans having nothing complimentary to say of him.

His has a fan base built on the hatred of another housemate.

Jonny. Congratulations you could well become the most unpopular person to win Big Brother that there will ever be.