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has any one left their humax pvr9200 for more than a week and had recording problems?
tvaddict37
04-12-2005
Hi all,

I bought a humax pvr 9200 T very soon after it came out, tested it for about 2 weeks, then went on holiday for 3 weeks.

I left a lot of things set up to record weekly, set by date and time rather than simply the EPG.

It recorded fine for the first week, then nothing.

Has anyone else used their PVR 9200 in this way - ie left un-touched for over 7 days.

It was left in standby, all were TV recordings, they did record 100% correctly for first 7 days - except incorrect dates, we know about that bug, but then nothing. I did think maybe it was becuase the first week's recordings were labelled with the date 1 week ahead (known bug), but why didn't they record in the third week?

When I got home I checked that the time was correct - it was - before switching on, then on noticing it hadn't recorded everything I looked at the recording schedule - all my weekly repeats were still listed - and it worked that evening.

Maybe I should have left it on. For my next holiday I will leave it in standby - with video back up, and then I'll try leaving it on.

Has anyone had this problem? Barry, any suggestions - you seem to be the world expert!!! (many thanks for tips on operation, editing, etc!!!)

Thanks
Last edited by tvaddict37 : 04-12-2005 at 20:27
tvaddict37
05-12-2005
I guess thats a no so far then?!
Barry
05-12-2005
Sorry missed your first post.

Have not seen this one myself, but my machine is on more than off at the mo.

I have had a daily recording that has had the incorrect date, but it corrected itself the next day.

Humax are aware of both of these problems.
M One
05-12-2005
I have only had mine in standby once in the two weeks I've had it and no missed recordings so far.

HDD filling fast and 20 timer limit driving me nuts though.

Sorry can't be of more help. Will post if able to replicate.

M1
tvaddict37
06-12-2005
Originally Posted by M One:
“I have only had mine in standby once in the two weeks I've had it ..........
”

thanks, I thought as much - i need a few of you to go on holiday and try this thing as I did!
marcdavis
06-12-2005
Originally Posted by tvaddict37:
“thanks, I thought as much - i need a few of you to go on holiday and try this thing as I did!”

As Barry said, there are a couple of issues around this subject that Humax are aware of - so its not just you I dont think. But it looks like its more to do with how the recordings are set up rather than just being away for over a week. We shall have to wait and see what Humax will do on this one.

I will be away for some of the time over the holiday season so will see. My main concern at the moment is how I am going to schedule my PVR to record what I want while I am away with only 20 timers.
snick
06-12-2005
I guess the Christmas/New Year period will be a good tester for this. I have only set recordings over a weekend (as I go home then) and when I return, generally I get 100% success rate
gcj
06-12-2005
I just came back from a 3 week holiday and had roughly the same problems. The first weeks recordings are there, also wrong date on recording, but after that no more recordings. I started the recordings 2 weeks before I left just to make they work - No problems.

The only thing I did diffrently was to leave the box in Standby mode during the 3 weeks I was away.
tvaddict37
06-12-2005
Originally Posted by gcj:
“I just came back from a 3 week holiday and had roughly the same problems. The first weeks recordings are there, also wrong date on recording, but after that no more recordings. I started the recordings 2 weeks before I left just to make they work - No problems.

The only thing I did diffrently was to leave the box in Standby mode during the 3 weeks I was away.”

Very interesting - this is exactly the same problem. Have you called Humax? What did they say? When I called they didn't understand, and asked me to email them. When I emailed they were very unhelpful and simply said it should have worked. I wonder if the box needs to be left on. Can I suggest that this is a MAJOR problem - can people post how they get on after Christmas.
tvaddict37
06-12-2005
Originally Posted by marcdavis:
“I will be away for some of the time over the holiday season so will see. My main concern at the moment is how I am going to schedule my PVR to record what I want while I am away with only 20 timers.”

That was also my concern - I used the weekly timer for most things, a lot were Monday to Friday - Humax should allow a Mon-Fri repeat record function.

When I emailed Humax to say i wanted recordings every Monday, every Tuesday etc and had used the weekly record function their reply was "if you want to record daily you need to use daily record" aaaagggggghhhhh

Oh well, just as well I left my trusted VHS recorder with a friend!
gcj
07-12-2005
Originally Posted by tvaddict37:
“Very interesting - this is exactly the same problem. Have you called Humax? What did they say? When I called they didn't understand, and asked me to email them. When I emailed they were very unhelpful and simply said it should have worked. I wonder if the box needs to be left on. Can I suggest that this is a MAJOR problem - can people post how they get on after Christmas.”

No I didn't call the help desk. I saw that 'wrong date on recorded program' is part of the software update. I really should give them a call but havent got around to it yet.

I have left my weekly schedulings as it was and so far everything recorded as it should. Definitely something to do with leaving your box in Standby mode.
brian9200T
07-12-2005
As it doesn't populate the EPG while in standby maybe this blocks recordings dependent on the EPG once the existing contents expire. Try leaving it switched on if this is acceptable.

Not to say that it shouldn't happen.
marcdavis
07-12-2005
Originally Posted by brian9200T:
“As it doesn't populate the EPG while in standby maybe this blocks recordings dependent on the EPG once the existing contents expire. Try leaving it switched on if this is acceptable.

Not to say that it shouldn't happen.”

It shouldnt do really because the timers have been set. It should record the scheduled channel and the scheduled time for the scheduled period regardless of what becomes of the data in the EPG.

But, seeing as the couple of examples in this thread say it happens after the first week when the box is not switched on then it really does seem a funny coincidence the 7 day epg running out of data/expiring.

If this is correct and needs fixing the obvious work around would be to set the box up to start up and then shut down at a certain time - with enough time to collect epg.
brian9200T
07-12-2005
Originally Posted by marcdavis:
“It shouldnt do really because the timers have been set. It should record the scheduled channel and the scheduled time for the scheduled period regardless of what becomes of the data in the EPG.

But, seeing as the couple of examples in this thread say it happens after the first week when the box is not switched on then it really does seem a funny coincidence the 7 day epg running out of data/expiring.

If this is correct and needs fixing the obvious work around would be to set the box up to start up and then shut down at a certain time - with enough time to collect epg.”

...or leave it on which will work differrently but maybe worse or better.
FlyMyPretties..
07-12-2005
Not sure I like the idea of leaving it switched on all the time - what about using the auto on/off setting to bring it out of standby each day?

Also gets round the problem for people who just use the EPG to set timers without padding - there's the issue of spin-up/boot-up times cutting off the start of recordings.

I suppose it would depend on whether your recordings are set for various times during the day - mine are all evening timers as far as I can recall.

Just a thought.
tvaddict37
07-12-2005
Originally Posted by brian9200T:
“As it doesn't populate the EPG while in standby maybe this blocks recordings dependent on the EPG once the existing contents expire. Try leaving it switched on if this is acceptable.

Not to say that it shouldn't happen.”


I did think of this, but in fact as well as a load of weekly repeats (amended from epg with padding) I also set it to record about 4 hours on a sunday evening just in case strictly come dancing was changed to a sunday the third weekend I was away. This was not set up with epg or anything. I think its something odd that happens with it being left on standby. When I am away over new year I'll just leave it on, in fact I'm leaving it on more these days anyway because of the irrittating time it takes to load the epg, and becuase the chase play is crap.

Shame, this box has such potential - I await software updates!!!
andyhurley
08-12-2005
Originally Posted by marcdavis:
“It shouldnt do really because the timers have been set. It should record the scheduled channel and the scheduled time for the scheduled period regardless of what becomes of the data in the EPG.

But, seeing as the couple of examples in this thread say it happens after the first week when the box is not switched on then it really does seem a funny coincidence the 7 day epg running out of data/expiring.

If this is correct and needs fixing the obvious work around would be to set the box up to start up and then shut down at a certain time - with enough time to collect epg.”

I think it looks for the EPG data in order to correct minor time differences. Others have said that delayed programs often record correctly thanks to the box looking at the now&next (PDC style). That said, this is clearly a bug, if the now&next doesn't appear it should record anyway and give the recording the name of the timer.

I guess if you leave the box on and switched to a reliable channel (e.g. BBC1 if you get good reception on that mux) it will record fine, indefinately.
tvaddict37
18-12-2005
hi, just bringing this to the top again - please post back what happens over the xmas break.
thanks
tvaddict37
09-01-2006
did anyone leave their humax on standby for more than a week over xmas? I left mine on and it worked properly - I think that is the answer - don't leave it on standby!

comments??
JAK99
09-01-2006
Trouble with leaving it on all the time is that it becomes susceptible to lock ups. Humaxes response to me regarding the lock up problem was to leave it in standby. Heads you loose and tails you loose!
andyhurley
10-01-2006
Originally Posted by JAK99:
“Trouble with leaving it on all the time is that it becomes susceptible to lock ups. Humaxes response to me regarding the lock up problem was to leave it in standby. Heads you loose and tails you loose!”

Only if you leave it on ITV. I have had two lockups since October and the machine has been left on all the time as it is more convenient for other family members who don't want the hassle. Both lockups were when the machine was left on ITV1 (a very rare occurance in our house).
aldaweb
10-01-2006
Originally Posted by andyhurley:
“Only if you leave it on ITV. I have had two lockups since October and the machine has been left on all the time as it is more convenient for other family members who don't want the hassle. Both lockups were when the machine was left on ITV1 (a very rare occurance in our house).”

Mine has locked up twice, neither time was on ITV, once was BBC2 the other QVC (don't ask). I leave it on all the time.
tvaddict37
10-01-2006
Originally Posted by JAK99:
“Trouble with leaving it on all the time is that it becomes susceptible to lock ups. Humaxes response to me regarding the lock up problem was to leave it in standby. Heads you loose and tails you loose!”

I was worried by that, but I left it on bbc1 set to record bbc1 and channel 4 and E4. fortunatly I don't watch much itv!

As you say - you can't win, but as on standby it failed to record and left on it did record I reckon left on is a better option - on standby it definately failed, left on it may lock up - but it didn't.

any one else had recording problems on leaving thier humax for more than a week?
jetbootjack
10-01-2006
I bought my 9200 the week it was released, its NEVER been in standby, I leave it tuned to BBC 1 when not watching the unit.

I setup weekly repeated recordings from day one and several daily recordings spanning more than three weeks.

The box has never locked up or missed a recording.

On average the box has over 40 programmes on the HD to be watched at anyone time, I appear to constantly run between 50% and 75% full too.

Overall a faultless PVR

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