Nokia 8210 No Network Coverage

Tranton · 05-12-2005, 10:21

Hello, I need some advice.

I bought a Nokia 8210 second hand to use as a cheap second phone. I've unlocked the phone and put in my new o2 PAYG sim card. The phone switches on correctly and boots to main screen and shows a signal. After about two seconds though the signal drops to zero and when i try and make a call it says "No Network Coverage".

My other phone is a Nokia 6230 on o2 online contract and it's perfect.

Has the 8210 been blocked? Any ideas or help would be great.

Cheers

ianoel230982 · 05-12-2005, 10:48

sounds like the actual phone may have an IMEI bar on there, couldnt guarentee it but is a possibility, although usually it would say limited service if there was an imei bar.
why not give PAYG a ring and have them check the IMEI on their systems to see if it has a bar on, if the phone has never been used on o2 yet then it may not show on their system so you would probably need to contact the other network provider, alternatively, you may have a sim fault, have you tried the sim in another phone? you can then work out what is at fault!

Tranton · 05-12-2005, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianoel230982

why not give PAYG a ring and have them check the IMEI on their systems to see if it has a bar on, if the phone has never been used on o2 yet then it may not show on their system so you would probably need to contact the other network provider, alternatively, you may have a sim fault,

Will try and call orange and o2 just now,i think the phone was originally orange

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianoel230982

have you tried the sim in another phone?

I've tried it in my 6230 and works perfectly so it's definitley the phone.

flagpole · 05-12-2005, 11:05

As said, it sounds a lot like it's blacklisted.

who ever you bought it from should definately be giving you your money back...

Tranton · 05-12-2005, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

As said, it sounds a lot like it's blacklisted.

who ever you bought it from should definately be giving you you money back...

I think so to. I've contacted the seller (ebay). He has 100% positive feedback so hopefullyit's an honest mistake. It cost me peanuts anyway so a rfund would be a bonus. I wouldn't buy a 2nd hand expensive phone from ebay.

I also phoned o2 who just advised it's either been barred or it's a phone fault. They wouldn't look into it for me. The phone seems fine so i doubt it's faulty.

muffin789 · 05-12-2005, 11:55

Why wouldn't O2 investigate? Seems to me it's in their interests if they're gaining a customer!

Tranton · 05-12-2005, 12:08

Apparently not. I've heard back from the seller and it's sorted. Refund issued and i'll return the phone today.

I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it.

flagpole · 05-12-2005, 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by muffin789

Why wouldn't O2 investigate? Seems to me it's in their interests if they're gaining a customer!

it strikes me that there should be a database of blacklisted IMEI, that is publically accessible.

muffin789 · 05-12-2005, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranton

I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it.

Yeah I reckon you've got a point there!

He sounds a decent enough bloke if he's sorted the refund already, so that's the main thing

05-12-2005, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranton

Apparently not. I've heard back from the seller and it's sorted. Refund issued and i'll return the phone today.

I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it.

I would have thought most would be blocked too

They could be used abroad though

flagpole · 06-12-2005, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranton

Apparently not. I've heard back from the seller and it's sorted. Refund issued and i'll return the phone today.

I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it.

If they are stolen and recovered then you'd have to say a fare few would be blaclisted.

But by no means all. I know that my network don't know my IMEI number. A lot of people swap ex contract phones with friends and stuff. Particularly the older ones, such as your 8210, it would definately not be under contract.

Garyo2 · 06-12-2005, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

If they are stolen and recovered then you'd have to say a fare few would be blaclisted.

But by no means all. I know that my network don't know my IMEI number. A lot of people swap ex contract phones with friends and stuff. Particularly the older ones, such as your 8210, it would definately not be under contract.

The network knows every IMEI you have ever used. It knows near enough the address you are using your phone at, and a lot more.

flagpole · 06-12-2005, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garyo2

The network knows every IMEI you have ever used. It knows near enough the address you are using your phone at, and a lot more.

Well they've only recently started to log the IMEIs I believe. But not with standing that. It does not mean that if jonny PAYG has his phone nicked that the network will block his IMEI.

06-12-2005, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

Particularly the older ones, such as your 8210, it would definately not be under contract.

Why not?

The 8210 is a great basic phone and I'm sure many people still use them.

Garyo2 · 06-12-2005, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

Well they've only recently started to log the IMEIs I believe. But not with standing that. It does not mean that if jonny PAYG has his phone nicked that the network will block his IMEI.

They have been logging IMEI numbers since the late 1990's along with addresses.

The network operator doesn't bar the phone you actually bought. It bars the one that was last used on the network. If they suspect dodgy activity they will bar the orginal phone too. However the system automatically bars the last phone used. Simple, because this would be the phone that had been lost or stolen.

If the phone is nicked, and they phone customer services to let them know, then it will be IMEI barred.

If the person writes it off and doesn't call customer services then no-ons to know so the IMEI number is not barred.

The police also can request IMEI bars, thus the reason when they give you a crime number they require an IMEI number before they allocate a person one.

StoneColdSaysSo · 30-12-2005, 00:04

I'm having a similar problem. My 7250i which I gave to a friend when I upgraded my phone shows "Contact Service" when he tried to use it. I have no idea how to resolve this.

Can anyone help?

WordLife · 01-01-2006, 22:13

this is why i never buy phones off e-bay...

i either buy them new from phone shops, 2nd hand from phone shops or off people i know (and trust)

02-01-2006, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoneColdSaysSo

I'm having a similar problem. My 7250i which I gave to a friend when I upgraded my phone shows "Contact Service" when he tried to use it. I have no idea how to resolve this.

Can anyone help?

Is your friend trying to use it on the same network as you originally had it?

Chances are the phone is locked to your network - you could try the unlocking thread to get it unlocked.

kev · 02-01-2006, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

it strikes me that there should be a database of blacklisted IMEI, that is publically accessible.

There is
http://www.recipero.com/recipero/products/checkmend/ (alas displays properly in IE only)

Quote:

To perform a search:

1. Locate the serial or IMEI number of the property you want to check.

2. Send a text message to 84025. The message should read check, then leave a space, followed by the serial or IMEI number. Example: check 123456789

3. A short while later, you will receive a text message from CheckMEND with the results. Please note if you make a mistake and the system can't read the text message you will not get a reply and you will not be charged for the aborted search (just the cost of sending the original text message) so please feel free to try again.

02-01-2006, 11:32

Please note that use of the above service costs £1.50 per text plus standard network costs, whatever result they send you (and however accurate it may or may not be!)

Money grabbing b*******!

You can usually get this info for free from your own network

05-12-2005, 10:21	#1
Tranton Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Anywhere with coffee Posts: 509	Nokia 8210 No Network Coverage Hello, I need some advice. I bought a Nokia 8210 second hand to use as a cheap second phone. I've unlocked the phone and put in my new o2 PAYG sim card. The phone switches on correctly and boots to main screen and shows a signal. After about two seconds though the signal drops to zero and when i try and make a call it says "No Network Coverage". My other phone is a Nokia 6230 on o2 online contract and it's perfect. Has the 8210 been blocked? Any ideas or help would be great. Cheers

02-01-2006, 11:32	#20
dawson Posts: n/a	Please note that use of the above service costs £1.50 per text plus standard network costs, whatever result they send you (and however accurate it may or may not be!) Money grabbing b******! You can usually get this info for free from your own network Last edited by dawson : 02-01-2006 at 12:24.*

05-12-2005, 10:48	#2
ianoel230982 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lovely England Posts: 139	sounds like the actual phone may have an IMEI bar on there, couldnt guarentee it but is a possibility, although usually it would say limited service if there was an imei bar. why not give PAYG a ring and have them check the IMEI on their systems to see if it has a bar on, if the phone has never been used on o2 yet then it may not show on their system so you would probably need to contact the other network provider, alternatively, you may have a sim fault, have you tried the sim in another phone? you can then work out what is at fault!

05-12-2005, 10:54	#3
Tranton Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Anywhere with coffee Posts: 509	Quote: Originally Posted by ianoel230982 why not give PAYG a ring and have them check the IMEI on their systems to see if it has a bar on, if the phone has never been used on o2 yet then it may not show on their system so you would probably need to contact the other network provider, alternatively, you may have a sim fault, Will try and call orange and o2 just now,i think the phone was originally orange Quote: Originally Posted by ianoel230982 have you tried the sim in another phone? I've tried it in my 6230 and works perfectly so it's definitley the phone.

05-12-2005, 11:05	#4
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	As said, it sounds a lot like it's blacklisted. who ever you bought it from should definately be giving you your money back...

05-12-2005, 11:08	#5
Tranton Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Anywhere with coffee Posts: 509	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole As said, it sounds a lot like it's blacklisted. who ever you bought it from should definately be giving you you money back... I think so to. I've contacted the seller (ebay). He has 100% positive feedback so hopefullyit's an honest mistake. It cost me peanuts anyway so a rfund would be a bonus. I wouldn't buy a 2nd hand expensive phone from ebay. I also phoned o2 who just advised it's either been barred or it's a phone fault. They wouldn't look into it for me. The phone seems fine so i doubt it's faulty.

05-12-2005, 11:55	#6
muffin789 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Devon Posts: 1,608	Why wouldn't O2 investigate? Seems to me it's in their interests if they're gaining a customer!

05-12-2005, 12:08	#7
Tranton Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Anywhere with coffee Posts: 509	Apparently not. I've heard back from the seller and it's sorted. Refund issued and i'll return the phone today. I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it.

05-12-2005, 12:09	#8
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by muffin789 Why wouldn't O2 investigate? Seems to me it's in their interests if they're gaining a customer! it strikes me that there should be a database of blacklisted IMEI, that is publically accessible.

05-12-2005, 12:33	#9
muffin789 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Devon Posts: 1,608	Quote: Originally Posted by Tranton I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it. Yeah I reckon you've got a point there! He sounds a decent enough bloke if he's sorted the refund already, so that's the main thing

05-12-2005, 13:49	#10
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Tranton Apparently not. I've heard back from the seller and it's sorted. Refund issued and i'll return the phone today. I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it. I would have thought most would be blocked too They could be used abroad though

06-12-2005, 10:39	#11
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by Tranton Apparently not. I've heard back from the seller and it's sorted. Refund issued and i'll return the phone today. I asked him where he got the phone and he said he buys them bulk from police auction. Is it just me or would most phones sold at police auctions have been blocked. I know if my phone was lost or stolen i would contact the network to block it. If they are stolen and recovered then you'd have to say a fare few would be blaclisted. But by no means all. I know that my network don't know my IMEI number. A lot of people swap ex contract phones with friends and stuff. Particularly the older ones, such as your 8210, it would definately not be under contract.

06-12-2005, 10:45	#12
Garyo2 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 566	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole If they are stolen and recovered then you'd have to say a fare few would be blaclisted. But by no means all. I know that my network don't know my IMEI number. A lot of people swap ex contract phones with friends and stuff. Particularly the older ones, such as your 8210, it would definately not be under contract. The network knows every IMEI you have ever used. It knows near enough the address you are using your phone at, and a lot more.

06-12-2005, 11:14	#13
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by Garyo2 The network knows every IMEI you have ever used. It knows near enough the address you are using your phone at, and a lot more. Well they've only recently started to log the IMEIs I believe. But not with standing that. It does not mean that if jonny PAYG has his phone nicked that the network will block his IMEI.

06-12-2005, 11:29	#14
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole Particularly the older ones, such as your 8210, it would definately not be under contract. Why not? The 8210 is a great basic phone and I'm sure many people still use them.

06-12-2005, 11:31	#15
Garyo2 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 566	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole Well they've only recently started to log the IMEIs I believe. But not with standing that. It does not mean that if jonny PAYG has his phone nicked that the network will block his IMEI. They have been logging IMEI numbers since the late 1990's along with addresses. The network operator doesn't bar the phone you actually bought. It bars the one that was last used on the network. If they suspect dodgy activity they will bar the orginal phone too. However the system automatically bars the last phone used. Simple, because this would be the phone that had been lost or stolen. If the phone is nicked, and they phone customer services to let them know, then it will be IMEI barred. If the person writes it off and doesn't call customer services then no-ons to know so the IMEI number is not barred. The police also can request IMEI bars, thus the reason when they give you a crime number they require an IMEI number before they allocate a person one.

30-12-2005, 00:04	#16
StoneColdSaysSo Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Scotland by The Sea Posts: 6,802	I'm having a similar problem. My 7250i which I gave to a friend when I upgraded my phone shows "Contact Service" when he tried to use it. I have no idea how to resolve this. Can anyone help?

01-01-2006, 22:13	#17
WordLife Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 712	this is why i never buy phones off e-bay... i either buy them new from phone shops, 2nd hand from phone shops or off people i know (and trust)

02-01-2006, 00:32	#18
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by StoneColdSaysSo I'm having a similar problem. My 7250i which I gave to a friend when I upgraded my phone shows "Contact Service" when he tried to use it. I have no idea how to resolve this. Can anyone help? Is your friend trying to use it on the same network as you originally had it? Chances are the phone is locked to your network - you could try the unlocking thread to get it unlocked.

02-01-2006, 10:15	#19
kev Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: South Notts (Waltham TV TX) Posts: 20,200	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole it strikes me that there should be a database of blacklisted IMEI, that is publically accessible. There is http://www.recipero.com/recipero/products/checkmend/ (alas displays properly in IE only) Quote: To perform a search: 1. Locate the serial or IMEI number of the property you want to check. 2. Send a text message to 84025. The message should read check, then leave a space, followed by the serial or IMEI number. Example: check 123456789 3. A short while later, you will receive a text message from CheckMEND with the results. Please note if you make a mistake and the system can't read the text message you will not get a reply and you will not be charged for the aborted search (just the cost of sending the original text message) so please feel free to try again.

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