how are you feeling alex ,like he gives f--k

Feel it necessary to tel Tim exactly what was shouted over the wall the last 2 days???

Feel it NOT necessary to tell Alex what was shouted over the wall today: one comment was "Jonny" ... followed by "Hi Alex".

It seemed to me that he took pleasure in telling Tim what was said.

His statement on Saturday (I think it was) to Kate that they had been chosen out of the whole country! Did the whole country apply? Get real Jonny 150,000 applied. He'll be on Stars in their Eyes next. "Matthew tonight I am going to be.........? any suggestions?

As far as I could tell - no-one wanted to take that call - I got the impression they thought there would be a twist in the tail.

Perhaps they thought that the person who took the call would then be required to nominate or be nominated for eviction - as I believe has happened in America.

They know BB is quite willing to put a sting in the tail.

I agree with you Bella

That is not a coincidence at all.

I would hope that for BB4 they do away with the stupid rule about not discussing nominations.

First: two groups in there have got away with it systematically throughout the series. Dodgy and Trust replace Vote ... that is all.

Second: it would remove the need for C4 to silence the bits where vote-fixing is going on but it is not consistent with their current sub-plots to show it. IE, if it is free speech ... there is less animosity for doing it. More like survivor maybe but fairer all round. When they get to the diary room the votes remain secret of course ;o)

Jonny and Kate's final week tactic has revealed itself. Having heard from outside chants that Tim's unpopularity is apparently because he is "boring", they see this as the key to winning.
Labelling is a powerful device with which to colour the public's perceptions - Hence suddenly Jonny & Kate's repeated references to themselves being "in here to have fun" and Alex & Tim as boring / humourless/ needs to lighten up, both in conversation and as nomination reasons.

Interesting also that Jonny was saying to the others how silly of Alex for thinking of walking, so close to the end. Didn't Jonny himself say to BB in the diary room only 2 days ago that he "woke up wanting to walk"? Judging by his criticism of Alex today for contemplating the same, we can only deduce that Jonny's latest claim of "wanting to walk" was totally insincere and an act. If he had been sincere about that, the natural human response would have been to empathise with Alex's feelings of wanting to go by saying "yes, I felt the same way only a couple of days ago". Instead Jonny's response was the opposite.

This is only one of many examples of Jonny's behaviour not consistent with what he says. Nothing wrong with having a gameplan of course, but he is masquerading as Mr genuine-nice-guy-who-has-no-issues-with-anyone, when analysis of the evidence strongly suggests otherwise. Just as it's fair play for Tim's cover-up of his true hair colour to be revealed, so Jonny's fake persona deserves to be exposed.

I suspect many will be unconvinced by Jonny's apparent reluctance to nominate; people can often tell if someone's being contrived without being able to pinpoint exactly why (sometimes referred to as a 'sixth sense'). Also the issue of 'Jonny: genuine or fake?' has intruded into public consciousness, so people are more likely to look to pick it up.

I also think Jonny & Kate's attempt to label Alex as joyless and boring will not stick with the public, particularly as the final is in sight. Most viewers, I suspect, will decide their vote based on the entire programme run. Jonny-supporters may assert that Alex is boring and unfunny, but general consensus would seem to contend otherwise. eg. Phil Edgar-Jones, BB exec. producer (newspaper interview): "I think Alex is fascinating...so many layers to him"; Dermot O'Leary (BB magazine): "[Alex} is far and away the most entertaining guy in the house by a country mile."

Describing Alex and Tim as boring and humourless over the last week or so is hardly a latter day example of Dr Goebbels' "big lie" is it!

Alex has had his moments and one-liners but unfortunately many of these have been when he has fallen victim to the demon alcohol. Far from not being his friend - provided he only drinks a wee bit - it really does seem to allow him to stop observing himself and stop worrying for a brief time.

Oh and I agree that Jonny's DR performance was risible.

I hate when Jonny goes on about "oooooh, in a few weeks I'll be sat in my fire engine thinking about this", when really you KNOW he's thinking, "Yeah, right. Bollocks to the fire service, where's my television presenters job" (sorry, I couldn't do a Geordie accent)...

he's not a geordie

Bob
pedantic, me?

....Ron Moody as Fagin singing 'Reviewing The Situation'

yeah... absolutely! But it sounds good for the viewers, huh? Ahhhhhh... nice man! Don't you just lerrrrrrve Jonny?

Nooo, I think Alex went from whining git to whning git!
Of course Tim wanted that call, why he even thanked Jonny afterwards he was so happy! I had to laugh at Tim - being so dramatic holding the task sheet with eyes closed........can you just imagine what would be said if Jonny tried to pull a stunt like that!? It reminded me of the times when Alex won the tasks and had to choose which hm to join him on the rich side - he milked the moment for so long with a tortured expression on his face BB eventually had to tell him to get on with it!....lol

I just wish that jonny would consider walking. All this guilt and anguish about nominations is obviously having an adverse effect on his health, as too the rest of us. I almost expected him to start wringing his hands at the start of his noms. I'm not going to pretend I like Jonny (think that's obvious), but I would have a lot more respect for him if he would just admit that he hates Alex (thes nowt wrung with that lad).



Tess signing off from a northern working class background.

disagree strongly.
tim actually stated that he would LOVE to take the call but didn't feel that he deserved it.
your perception marks would be in minus figures
whats up with all you johnny bashers out there
he is a decent bloke who does not deserve the stick he gets.
bet you wouldn't complain if your house was burning down .....or would you chose to have alex pose for a few snaps in the background??????
have you ever known a nasty fireman???......
have you ever known a modest model???

Have you ever really known a fireman or a model. Are you trying to say that Jonny can do no wrong purely beacause of his job?

It annoys me when housemates can gain popularity mearly by trotting out well recognised and over used stereotypes in Jonny's case working class hero fireman and self proclaimed "joker".

maybe jonny has wanted to get rid of alex from week 1 but how would u feel being made to look small in front of millions of ppl on live tv,, do u think you would have acted any differently to what jonny has been doing,, he has lived in the house with the guy for how long now,,, do u think u could have stopped u'rself from doing something rash to alex,, alex is a winge bag and so much for being a model ,, why do u think he is keen to put on a fake sob story (((( to win the money of course !!!!!)))) at least jonny and kate are true to the GAME,,, they have fun but if they are acting then it is a good act to me,, they are trying to win the money,,, after all would u act any differently if u were in the bb house,,,

I don't know about anyone else but i am not an alex fan,, i think he is the most boring person in the house apart from tim,, but he does have his funny moments (but only when drunk),, does it really have to take alcohol to get him to let his hair down ,, same with tiny brain tim,,, he only let his hair down once when he was drunk with PJ, kate and jonny,, GET ALEX OUT ,, GET TIM OUT ,, i hope alex walks through the door holding hands with tim on friday night,, whoo hoooo good story line wont it be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Seems that someone on the AOL discussion board watched E4 last night and heard Jonny basically saying he had used Kate all along and was going to win because "I havent come all this way for nothing". He also suggested she doesnt spend too much time with Jade in case he gets upset.


Those who have had the bad feelings about Jonny seem to have been right all along. The mask has slipped too often.

Last time Jonny voted he chose Jade and Adelle for very good reasons. I believe Jonny, Kate and Jade found it hard choosing Alex this week and just maybe that was why they all paused before nominating. Anyway it is a surety Tim will go this week now no sensible person will vote Alex over Tim. I am pleading to all Jonny, Kate and Jade fans not to vote Alex out. Let it be a fair result on the deserving four finalists. I'm voting Jonny, but any one of the other three winning dosn't bother me all deserve it.

Yes actually.
One round here went round setting fire to barns and churches a few years ago.

Or does that count as "etertaining himself to deal with the boredom" ?

Tim so wanted to take that call. He could easily have said no he didnt want to take it. There was no compulsion for a HM to take it. They could all have said thanks but no thanks.

I think you are reading far too much into it. People dont normally do their nominations in alphabetical order. They tend name their nominations in order of who they want out most. Tim came first because he is a pompous, boring twit. Alex had to be the second nomination because he is the biggest threat to winning the game.

Sorry, but the reason Jonny and Kate found it hard to pronounce the name 'Alex' is because they had to find a good enough reason to 'convince' the general public, because Jonny and Kate AND the public know that the obvious choice for nomination was Jade (both Jonny and Kate were talking about her and her antics)

Jonny knows that men ALWAYS win hence the need to eliminate competition - lets face it if you're up against Jade you pretty much know who's going to win!