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More biased editing towards Jade
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gazza71
16-07-2002
They completely neglected the fact that she came out 10 minutes later and was having a good giggle with them all about it. Then they did it again, and still she was having a good time with them later.

I hate the fact they didn't show the whole toilet roll thing... When Kate threw one right at Alex's head it was f'n hilarious.

By the way, Alex fans - is he not bullying her? Eh? Eh?

I don't think he is personally. But If we use your arguments for Kate and Jonny being bullies then I guess Alex is an even bigger one because he snaps at her and ignores her like no other.
Glasgow Guy
16-07-2002
I have just made the same statement to one of my friends. I watched this as it happened last night, and selective editing made us feel sorry for jade tonight, when in actual fact she had a good laugh with them.
metafis
16-07-2002
YOu could look on it the other way. ch 4 left it looking like jade had gone off in a sulk. they should have shown the rest, where Jade comes back, finds no HM's again, but just sits down saying something like 'its not funny the second time', drinking her orange juice like nothing had happened.
That I think would have shown her in a better light.
chuff
16-07-2002
I was watching as well, and just knew the music would start up, with Jade in bed, typical crap editing from c4.
Depends on your viewpoint, they are picking on Jade, or Jade can't take a joke.
metafis
16-07-2002
btw
I do agree with you about Alex. His comments to Jade were quite nasty in both content and delivery. He sounded like Rik Mayall in 'the young ones'.
elliottm
16-07-2002
I'vbe often wondered about the editing and commentary as these immediately bring subjectivity into our viewing - I have the E4i feeds on continuously ( ) and the highlights often give me a different presentation on what I initially viewed.
metafis
16-07-2002
its just occured to me, reading these posts, and the different slants people are getting on ch 4, that its not so much biased editing as just plain sloppy editing.
Riddles
16-07-2002
I noticed that too.

But I do think Alex in particular is being really mean to her.

I know she can be annoying as I have never been her biggest fan, but there was no need for him to snap like that.

They way they have all been treating her recently has softened my attitude towards her.
gazza71
16-07-2002
Can I just say again, I don't believe Alex has been bullying Jade - I'm not pathetic enough to come up with such nonsense to try and sway opinions - He loses his rag with her at times, which is perfectly understandable in that situation.

But! I think it's disgusting that people rant and rave about Kate and Jonnys behaviour towards her, when they give her more time than anyone in that house, and she seems to genuinely enjoy their company. Alex doesn't give her the time of day - If she was stuck in a house with 4 people like Alex, then she really would feel uncomfortable.

I still think the editing is disgusting - I am actually thinking of complaining now - I've got money on who the last 3 would be, and Jade was not involved, and they've gone out of their way now to get her there... With public sympathy at all time high for her now, that was the message of the way that show ended - Its just bollocks quite frankly.
Richey
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Riddles
I noticed that too.

But I do think Alex in particular is being really mean to her.

I know she can be annoying as I have never been her biggest fan, but there was no need for him to snap like that.

They way they have all been treating her recently has softened my attitude towards her.
”

I've got a theory about this.

I've mentioned elsewhere that you can trace Alex's renewed moodiness back to Adele's eviction, I reckon he's missing her. Then, of course, who stayed in the house instead of Adele? That's right, Jade. I believe that maybe, subconciously, Alex is taking Adele's eviction out on Jade (as well as generally having enough of her loud mouthed ways)?
metafis
16-07-2002
gazza71.
but it cannot have been done on purpose, there would be no point, because that particular ending has 2 equal meanings
1) Jade went to bed upset at the others picking on her
2) Jade went off in a strop and cant take a joke.

Its as i said, sloppy editing, not biased editing.
abdiliya
16-07-2002
Lol even i was feeling a sorry for until i remembered she was out having laugh 10 mins later with them..

However i think alex is being a **** with her, he is having dig at her at every oppurtunity, and this is the man who's fans swear is caring, well mannered and polite..bullshit imho otherwise he wouldn't be treating the jade along with some of others the way he is..
Rachel Green
16-07-2002
Jonny, Kate and Jade all joke with each other. It's not Jonny and Kate and the jokes on Jade. They all have a laugh. The real bullying was what Jade did to Sophie or has everyone forgotten that? Each week Big Brother has their faves and this week it's Jade as they're worried what reception she'll get when she leaves the BB house.
Emzi
16-07-2002
Whether she turned out the light and went to bed after the ' hide and seek' event or not, the "I bet you £70,000 that she'll leave in the next hour"* taunts suggest how mean, clique-y and obsessed with winning the other four are. (Ok - bar Tim - who wants to go).

I hate having to justify Jade yet again but if the game would have ended with the housemates confessing straight away and all having a giggle - it would have been funny. But they let her stew in her anguish which defeated the object or humour of the game. Jade is the butt of the joke yet again poor lass!

*By the way - I didn't actually catch which housemates said that...any idea?

(These are my personal views as a Big Brother fan, not in my role as a DS:BB reporter)
spearish
16-07-2002
I suppose LAST nights C4 coverage favoured Jade too did it ...showing her arguing with jonny and having a bit of a strop ...you blame "biased" editing when it's one of your faves being shown to act badly.....they have all had their nights for looking good and bad on C4 ...but if its not to your liking ..."oh its biased" .They havent shown a half of the bitching and moaning Alex and jonny have done on C4 but that was clearly "good" editing ...yaaaaaaaawn.
nelly-j
16-07-2002
emzi , it was kate that said that.
didn't like the way that alex told jade off , when she "found " them either. he was really aggressive , no wonder she went to bed.
HandyBendyWendy
16-07-2002
Yes , I thought it was bad too that it was shown as if Jade was all alone and abandoned ,but earlier than that I was interested in the conversation between Tim and Johnny about the 'I'm not going to act like a d**khead bit'

When Tim started to tell Johnny that 'when you are bored you wanna mess around and entertain'..etc, I said to my son, hey just listen to what he says next!....
meaning the bit where he says 'but when I'm bored I prefer to sit quietly and think of how I'm going to earn my next million' (not quoted correctly...just the gist), but they didn't show it. There was time to show it as there was more than a few seconds of silence after which could have been edited, so why didn't they?
Flash2
16-07-2002
I just watched my video of the programme again to make sure about this but what Kate actually said as Jade disappeared into the bedroom was "70 grand says she'll be out in the next hour" pretty obviously meaning Jade would be "out" of the bedroom and back in the garden.... nothing to do with leaving the house altogether.

And she did come back out so Kate was right.
gazza71
16-07-2002
She came back out and had a good giggle with the rest of them.
spearish
16-07-2002
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“Originally posted by Flash2
I just watched my video of the programme again to make sure about this but what Kate actually said as Jade disappeared into the bedroom was "70 grand says she'll be out in the next hour" pretty obviously meaning Jade would be "out" of the bedroom and back in the garden.... nothing to do with leaving the house altogether.

And she did come back out so Kate was right.
”

you are right about what Kate said but wrong about Jade coming back out....they went to fetch Jade ....and quite frankly if alex had said the things he said to Jade before she went to bed I'd have done the same ...it was said in a horrible tone ....joking or not
Emzi
16-07-2002
Eeeek! Now I'm confused! Did Kate mean she'll bet 70K that Jade will be "Out of the Big Brother house" or "Out of the bedroom?" in an hour after seeing her storm off? Even the people in my house have differing opinions...? Thoughts?

(either way - the subject of 70k is mentioned too often by some)
gazza71
16-07-2002
It was she'll be out in 10 minutes. I can't believe people are actually debating that.
gazza71
16-07-2002
Back out having a giggle in 10 minutes, I meant.
fallyhag
16-07-2002
It is always nice to read a thread that reflects exactly what you were just thinking.

I was also watching last nite and when I saw it today I just knew they would edit it just like they did. Very influencing.
Emzi
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by gazza71
It was she'll be out in 10 minutes. I can't believe people are actually debating that. ”

I think the problem is that they didn't specify what they meant when they said "I'll bet 70K that Jade will be out..." and the tone of voice they used - that's what made some C4 viewers a bit confused...
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