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What a vicious little man Alex really is
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Deerd
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by agg01



With respect, when did goodness become associated with intolerance? Surely it would be a mark of that virtue NOT to direct one's frustation at others?

How is Alex not responsible for his own actions & reactions? Did the BB3 team modify his dna in the Diary Room on some occasion, introducing a contempt gene? Did all the other housemates [except Tim, Adele, & Sandy] conspire to inject him with a spite & vitriol virus whilst we weren't looking? Furthermore, which of these two is carrying the mirror that reflects him in a bad light?

His abrogation of responsibility for poor behaviour indicates a tangible cowardice on anyone's part. Alex underlines his cowardice by continuing to conceal the existence & depth of his feelings regarding his housemates - especially now when revelation can no longer earn nomination. He's perfectly content be spiteful & derisory in forums where he won't be challenged over, or have to defend, himself: with Tim/ranting in the Diary Room/speaking for the audio feeds & the cameras. It's inarguable that his silence is derived from a wish to maintain harmony in the group; as he is promoting unease with his overt relocations from any area of the House that Kate/Jonny/Jade are in, and blatently whispered conversations/asides to Tim.

By virtue of what racial superiority does Alex relegate the vast majority of his fellow housemates as belonging to some primate subspecies? [Is it similar to that which enables Tim to dismiss them as performing clowns?]

Precisely what heinously antisocial behaviourisms/values/opinions are Kate, Jonny, and Jade exhibiting to generate/deserve this interminable river of biliousness from Alex [& Tim]?

Alex himself has evolved into the main source of antisocialibility in BB3. Any housemate who infringes on his wishes, or even disagrees, is subjected to the aforementioned vitriol, contempt, & spite. It's spite, for example, to state that his sole remaining motivation [for remaining in the House] is to prevent anyone else from receiving the resultant benefits of BB (cash/exposure).

It's as if Alex wants to be rule alone in the Kingdom of Alex that should be the BB House; with all cameras [read: attention] trained on him, and a subjugated population heeding his every pronouncement & desire. That's not the democracy that most of us are satisfied with, that's certainly not any characteristic of leadership - it's dictatorship.

And the only thing that Alex's behaviour should be allowed to dictate now is his eviction by us.
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excellent, particularly given the lateness of the hour

too tired to agree more eloquently.

Cheers Deerd
gadfly
17-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by agg01



With respect, when did goodness become associated with intolerance? Surely it would be a mark of that virtue NOT to direct one's frustation at others?

How is Alex not responsible for his own actions & reactions? Did the BB3 team modify his dna in the Diary Room on some occasion, introducing a contempt gene? Did all the other housemates [except Tim, Adele, & Sandy] conspire to inject him with a spite & vitriol virus whilst we weren't looking? Furthermore, which of these two is carrying the mirror that reflects him in a bad light?

His abrogation of responsibility for poor behaviour indicates a tangible cowardice. Alex underlines his cowardice by continuing to conceal the existence & depth of his feelings regarding his housemates - especially now when revelation can no longer earn nomination. He's perfectly content be spiteful & derisory in forums where he won't be challenged over, or have to defend, himself: with Tim/ranting in the Diary Room/speaking for the audio feeds & the cameras. It's inarguable that his silence is derived from a wish to maintain harmony in the group; as he is promoting unease with his overt relocations from any area of the House that Kate/Jonny/Jade are in, and blatently whispered conversations/asides to Tim.

By virtue of what racial superiority does Alex relegate the vast majority of his fellow housemates as belonging to some primate subspecies? [Is it similar to that which enables Tim to dismiss them as performing clowns?]

Precisely what heinously antisocial behaviourisms/values/opinions are Kate, Jonny, and Jade exhibiting to generate/deserve this interminable river of biliousness from Alex [& Tim]?

Alex himself has evolved into the main source of antisocialibility in BB3. Any housemate who infringes on his wishes, or even disagrees, is subjected to the aforementioned vitriol, contempt, & spite. It's spite, for example, to state that his sole remaining motivation [for remaining in the House] is to prevent anyone else from receiving the resultant benefits of BB (cash/exposure).

It's as if Alex wants to be rule alone in the Kingdom of Alex that should be the BB House; with all cameras [read: attention] trained on him, and a subjugated population heeding his every pronouncement & desire. That's not the democracy that most of us are satisfied with, that's certainly not any characteristic of leadership - it's dictatorship.

And the only thing that Alex's behaviour should be allowed to dictate now is his eviction by us.
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You see the world really is divided.

Some would believe that Alex has behaved with justifiable fear and incomprehension that he is potentially doomed to spend a week alone with people he knows - at heart - hate him; as he does them. This is a fairly human response I would imagine, and not everyone is comprised of herculean mental strength to cope with all forms of adverse circumstance, let alone a young lad who isn't noted for his powers of perspicacity and emotional openness. He made a huge effort to open out to Kate (the most honest he has been throughout the whole BB experience), and then felt rebuffed and shy when it was clear that she had abused their budding 'friendship' tactically and remained close-knit with her chum and his nemesis Jonny, who now rules the house. (Kate didn't seem to have much choice in the matter it seems). As for Jade - Alex has nothing but dislike for Jade as he blames her nasty meddling snipes for a) ensuring that his relationship with Spencer and PJ was truly shattered - he does not yet know of Adele's role in this; b) ensuring that he was unable to make friends with Kate; c) Adele's eviction - he cannot believe that Jade is still there. Obviously he has shown great naievety, even weakness, but in the circumstances, hasn't behaved any more cruelly than his fellow HMs.

Others - yourself included - see that Alex's shunning of the ''group'' is his crime, despite the fact that they offer little real compromise, and quite a lot of barely concealed resentment (and even mockery).

The only character with the potential to improve the atmosphere is Kate, (and I don't mean by playing silly sex games, but by genuinely offering an unbiased friendly communication) but she is kept in check by her surrogate-daddy (Jonny), and is in any case, too self-absorbed (not that I'm complaining here; it is a game to be won after all!)

I am beginning to think that a lot of our response to "Alex" and his dilemma is a very personal one. From talking to people today, it was noticeable that those who had suffered insecurity, or felt cliqued-out at some point in their lives, were more attuned to how Alex might be feeling - while not condoning his spiteful reactions. It is notable that his HMs can't quite understand this, however much (they pretend to) try.

Alex is not 'racial' in his response to Jonny etc. He simply isn't sure if his parents would quite approve! Silly, but much less pernicious than bigotry.

Tim, on the other hand, is truly totalitarian in his snobbishness and deserves to realise in the strongest possible fashion that this is unacceptable.
agg01
17-07-2002
"Justifiable fear & incomprehension"? Sniping's more likely to be a consequence resentment & bitterness.

It's doubtful that Kate/Jonny/Jade's feelings run as deeply as "hate"; as indicated - for example - in spending disproportionately less time finding fault with Alex than vice versa, certainly expressing such with less intensity.

There's little "herculean mental strength" required to live with people with whom one has little communality - anymore than there is to work in any office in Britain.

Regarding the assertion that Jade shattered potential relationships: Alex had already dismissed Spencer on the grounds of hygiene, and PJ in favour of [the rapidly abandoned] Sophie.

As for the issue of cruelty, I was definitely asserting that Alex is now behaving poorer than his housemates. We saw him earlier in BB3 being sensitive & mannered (having apparently been raised in an educated, well-mannered environment). If these were truly his qualities, they wouldn't have dissipated so extensively.

I do not view "group shunning" as Alex's crime. In fact, I've been impressed by his individuality. It's his view that verbal unpleasantness is somehow acceptable, except when it's directed at him.

The reference was "racial", not "racist". That is, in referring to Kate/Jonny/Jade as "monkeys", Alex consigns them [literally] to another [less evolved] species; whilst only he & Tim are worthy of the more superior homo sapien designation.

Your point regarding insecurity & "cliqued-out" is well made though.
agg01
17-07-2002
[quote]Originally posted by agg01
[b]"Justifiable fear & incomprehension"? Sniping's more likely to be a consequence resentment & bitterness.

It's doubtful that Kate/Jonny/Jade's feelings run as deeply as "hate"; as indicated - for example - in spending disproportionately less time finding fault with Alex than vice versa, certainly expressing such with less intensity.

There's little "herculean mental strength" required to live with people with whom one has little communality - anymore than there is to work in any office in Britain.

Regarding the assertion that Jade shattered potential relationships: Alex had already dismissed Spencer on the grounds of hygiene, and PJ in favour of [the rapidly abandoned] Sophie.

As for the issue of cruelty, I was definitely asserting that Alex is now behaving poorer than his housemates. We saw him earlier in BB3 being sensitive & mannered (having apparently been raised in an educated & courteous environment). If these were truly his qualities, they wouldn't have dissipated so extensively.

I do not view "group shunning" as Alex's crime. In fact, I've been impressed by his individuality. It's his view that unpleasant behaviour is somehow acceptable, except when it's directed at him.

The reference was "racial", not "racist". That is, in referring to Kate/Jonny/Jade as "monkeys", Alex consigns them [literally] to another [less evolved] species; whilst only he & Tim are worthy of the more superior homo sapien designation.

Your point regarding insecurity & "cliqued-out" is well made though.
curtaintwitcher
17-07-2002
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“[i]

Vote for your little fake joker man who sits in the sewer of his depression week after week with fake concern with his family.

Call Alex a 'bully' when fake joker man and co. bullied the guy senseless in week one and two, just for wanting a decent standard of living/..

Vote for fake joker man because Alex 'is only threatening to walk because he is sulking' and fake joker man was so good hearted and full of jolly japes about the whole 'being nominated thing'

Vote for fake joker man because he found it 'so hard' today to nominate.
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