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HM's recent hostility to Jade
Little Ali
17-07-2002
I've seen alot of recent reactions to Jade from the HM's, mostly annoyance with her, and I've also read on here people's views that they are being unreasonable to her. I have a theory about this:

Most people who feel that the others have behaved unreasonably towards Jade of late have possibly altered their opinions of her due to OTT mean coverage of her in various places, such as tabloids. They have realised that Jade isn't quite as bad as the Sun et al have made her out to be. However, the housemates know nothing of this. All they have to base opinion on is what they have seen of Jade in the house - bitching and backstabbing, and various lies ranging from harmless white ones to whoppers. The only things they know about Jade's hard life is what she has told them.

Considering that they only have her in-house behaviour to base their views on, is it not possible that they are just ignoring her due to plain and simple mistrust? After all, there is not one person in there that she hasn't bitched about. Maybe they are being too harsh, I haven't made up my mind, but I think that if I was in the house with someone I knew had bitched about me, I'd be ignoring her too.
Father Jack
17-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Little Ali
I've seen alot of recent reactions to Jade from the HM's, mostly annoyance with her, and I've also read on here people's views that they are being unreasonable to her. I have a theory about this:

Most people who feel that the others have behaved unreasonably towards Jade of late have possibly altered their opinions of her due to OTT mean coverage of her in various places, such as tabloids. They have realised that Jade isn't quite as bad as the Sun et al have made her out to be. However, the housemates know nothing of this. All they have to base opinion on is what they have seen of Jade in the house - bitching and backstabbing, and various lies ranging from harmless white ones to whoppers. The only things they know about Jade's hard life is what she has told them.

Considering that they only have her in-house behaviour to base their views on, is it not possible that they are just ignoring her due to plain and simple mistrust? After all, there is not one person in there that she hasn't bitched about. Maybe they are being too harsh, I haven't made up my mind, but I think that if I was in the house with someone I knew had bitched about me, I'd be ignoring her too.
”

If by "ignoring" you mean "drowning in the pool", then yes, I'd be "ignoring" her too,

Jack
couldnt leave lovely ali alone
magsiesss
17-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Little Ali
I've seen alot of recent reactions to Jade from the HM's, mostly annoyance with her, and I've also read on here people's views that they are being unreasonable to her. I have a theory about this:
”

My theory is quite simple. Several days ago Jonny and Kate were talking about - its 2 against 2 with Jade in the middle.

Today, everytime Jade asked Kate or Jonny to either sing, go in the pool, etc. this resulted in a 'no Jade' - I cannot be bothered response.

My reasoning is that nominations are complete - they do not need her.

With Tim I do not think he has been unreasonable.

Alex admitted to being unreasonable to her and could not explain why and said he did not like this.
Tess
17-07-2002
I think Jade's just realised that it's every man/woman for him/herself now. Her latest tictac seems to be to talk so loud that it drowns out everyone else's conversation. The one consolation is that it's really starting to piss jonny off. It will be interesting to see how long the jonny/kate/jade group hugs last.
gazza71
17-07-2002
They just have a good time - that's all it is... Both of those girls think its between Jonny and Alex.

This recent hostility is silly really - Jade said yesterday she was loving being there, the whole "feather" thing... She's not feeling bad, so why people seem to think she is, is beyond me.
Little Ali
17-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by Father Jack


If by "ignoring" you mean "drowning in the pool", then yes, I'd be "ignoring" her too,

Jack
couldnt leave lovely ali alone
”


I didn't see the pool incident, so I didn't comment on it. Actually, "ignoring" wasn't the word I was after, "ostracising" would have been closer. They all seem to be leaving her out of things a bit, but as I said, she's bitched about all of them, and now they all know it. I was mainly referring to the last few days. I too would have been tempted to drown her if i was stuck in a house with her for seven weeks. She never seems to let anyone have a moment to themselves, always barging in. The harder the others try to leave her out the more determined she becomes to join in.
gazza71
17-07-2002
"Actually, "ignoring" wasn't the word I was after, "ostracising" would have been closer. They all seem to be leaving her out of things a bit, but as I said, she's bitched about all of them, and now they all know it. "

I don't know - very rarely will you see Jonny and Kate without Jade too far away now, so I don't think she's been singled out at all. Tim and Alex in particular have little time for her, but she seems to be enjoying herself much more now and is coming over a lot better imo. Not because I feel sorry for her, but because a much nicer Jade is now shining through - one that doesn't have people around her that try to install horrible thoughts about others in her head.

When Tim goes, hopefully Alex will go the same way as Jade.
BigMerv
17-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
"Actually, "ignoring" wasn't the word I was after, "ostracising" would have been closer. They all seem to be leaving her out of things a bit, but as I said, she's bitched about all of them, and now they all know it. "

I don't know - very rarely will you see Jonny and Kate without Jade too far away now, so I don't think she's been singled out at all. Tim and Alex in particular have little time for her, but she seems to be enjoying herself much more now and is coming over a lot better imo. Not because I feel sorry for her, but because a much nicer Jade is now shining through - one that doesn't have people around her that try to install horrible thoughts about others in her head.

When Tim goes, hopefully Alex will go the same way as Jade.
”

Lets hope so.....in Alex's own words "I want to be part of the phenomonom"
alibat
17-07-2002
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
"Actually, "ignoring" wasn't the word I was after, "ostracising" would have been closer. They all seem to be leaving her out of things a bit, but as I said, she's bitched about all of them, and now they all know it. "

I don't know - very rarely will you see Jonny and Kate without Jade too far away now, so I don't think she's been singled out at all. Tim and Alex in particular have little time for her, but she seems to be enjoying herself much more now and is coming over a lot better imo. Not because I feel sorry for her, but because a much nicer Jade is now shining through - one that doesn't have people around her that try to install horrible thoughts about others in her head.

When Tim goes, hopefully Alex will go the same way as Jade.
”

I agree with nearly all you say, although I don't think Jades bitched particularily more, just more inconsistantly in that she's changed sides plus she's also been accused of bitching more than others and often when she has'nt been eg PJ or to make others look better eg Alex and Adele. I felt very sorry for her last week as she seemed to be the house's scape goat although this week she's in very good spirits like you I hope Alex does the same with Tim gone.
eden2uk
17-07-2002
Good point about the change in Jade since joining in with Jonny & Kate. Same goes for Alex much better person when joining in with them and not stuck with the poisonous hms
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