Elysium

If you want to take a superior intellectual attitude about me, than I'll point out that I was stating my opinion, and you choose to insult me for them. You assume you know my mind, because I dont agree with your viewpoints, because I disagree im 'easily led'. To me THAT attitude is far more shallow and intellectually moribund than actually enjoying seeing people have fun.
Anyway..thats your problem not mine...I'll repeat I like it when they playact, I find it amusing and entertaining.
as someone else said, the public created this monster and then whine about the housemates having 'fun'.
cos most of the time thats what they are doing, I see no shallowness of thought it that. they are stuck in a house 24 hours a day, and playacting is a way of relieving the boredon.

Long may Kate continue to impersonate Davina, long may Jonny wear his red nose, and long may Jade just carry on being Jade.

if you want to attribute some lack of intellect on my part then fine, but Im am quite happy and pleased that I can enjoy their playacting, rather than get all worked up and read hidden meanings into it.

This is very true, and the more Big Brother's there are, the more the hm's and us alike are going to know every how and why of playing 'the game', how the press work, even the way Davina says their names ! ( as witnessed this week). This is inevitable. However, i think the basic premise of Big Brother is essentially sound and could continue indefinitly...if IF they choose their hm's more carefully.

The study of other human beings is always going to fascinate us, the strive to 'win' has always been a staple of TV ( eg. gameshows), the voyuristic pleasure of watching people make fools of themselves is a staple of Japanesse TV . As long as the HM's are as interesting and diverse and 'real' as they can be, then audiences will stil lfeel that BB is worth watching.

This year there hasn't been enough diversity, interest or 'realness' amongst contestants, and that is essentially the problem. I have felt, particularly this year, that the most 'interesting' people were voted out way too early ( Lynne looked to be gearing up for some fantastic Penny like behaviour and Adele would still be 'mixing it up' qute nicely around about now). But hey, its the hm's choice, and they operate from the premise of who they want to live with and who they can beat rather than the sheer entertainment factor.

If they can weed out the Jonny's, Kates and Tim's next year and make the whole BB experience more enjoyable and challenging so that hm's don't walk out, BB should have a few years left in it yet.

If such shallow “court jester/amoeba like humour” makes you happy then that’s pleasing to know. I for one find that Kate, Jonny and Jade lack any form of true wit.. Humour comes, you might be surprised to know, in many different shapes and forms. Unfortunately Kate and Jonny lack the understanding and the realisation of this simple fact, feeling that being “silly” is all you need to create hours of pleasure.

It’s the most “basic” form of humour [remember Sandy’s words] .. and if you feel you can lower yourself to enjoy the same old joke time and time again .. the same old catchphrase and “look at me .. I’m a wannabe” routine, then go for it.

*Sigh* .. amoeba like humour, it says an awful lot about Jonny and his fans.

Good to see loads of Anti-Jonny comments in this thread, we haven't had any for a while. The funny thing is, both Kate and Jonny can be genuinely funny when not acting like prats. Jade joins in the circus, however you get the feeling that she's not acting up to the cameras like the other two; she's just having a good laugh and don't give a shit. I'm really warming to Jade actually.

remember the days when every thread on DS was about something diffrent? Why is it that everythign is being repeated? This is not aimed at this thread alone but just thaught id post it on here.. How many times have we heared "Jonny & Kate are acting" or "Jade's said this" i think its just stupid.. ;(

Hmmm ... strange that I agree with most of your points in this thread and yet find your condescending tone so disagreeable

Arguing the toss and getting into personal debates over who's good and who's not in a tv show is hardly indicative of a stunning intellect (or indeed a stunning grasp on reality)

BBG

Exactly. Whatever you might think of them, imagine what the house would have been like if the last six were: Sunita; Sandy; Lynn; Adele; Tim; Alex (or even PJ and Sophie).

Sunita and Sandy explicitly left because they didn't want to waste their time with Jonny and Kate's "now we are six" routines. Basically we were robbed from watching a BB that rose above the mentality of 14 year olds.

Well said Sir/Madam!

Completely agree. Some of the comments made within this thread are so condescending they are beginning to grate on the nerves. But then, some of the contributors within this thread normally seem to write in this vein, just to provoke a heated response.

Personally, I find this very childish and cannot understand the mentality of these people.

Elysium

For the 3rd time..and the last
I do not find their playacting annoying, I find it entertaining, even if its not mature, and lacks any talent. Its people having fun, and thats what I see, and enjoy.

I havent attacked you for your opinions about the hM's, so please have the courtesy not to attack me for mine.

With you all the way on that one.
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Maybe BB might be advised to pay more attention to their HM selection. There seem to be a few too many previous television appearances and equity cards amongst the HMs. Is Jade the only one who doesnt have some sort of showbiz links ? I would prefer to see a wider range of people from different walks of life interacting with each other and then you might find you have something worth watching. If they changed the age range of the people they are selling the programme to it might be interesting too. How about a BB "Geriatrica" ? No HMs under say 50. It might educate some of the younger viewers too

There is a strange notion running through the show (led by Jonnykate) that seems to imply that the only way to have fun and injoy yourslef is by indulging in loud, immature behaviour: as Tim put it, acting like a d*ckhead. Anyone who does not join in is a grumpy old killjoy.

Perhaps the truth is that not everyone hankers after being 9 again - pulling off little girls' knickers behind the bike sheds, auditioning as an extra on Tiz-Was (or however it is spelt).

There is a whole level of humour which floats on an altogether higher plane. The intrigue between adults acting as adults is far more entertaining - though every bit as backstabbing - than the childish JonnyKate "mummy, look at me" behaviour.


Jonny and Jade in particular remind me of that saying about elephants: "I find them interesting but I'm not sure I would want one in my house".

Had my worried for a second Maldy.
Nobody in the house is even approaching intellectual status. The only reason some people have thought that Tim and Alex may fit that category, is because they are better educated with a slightly larger vocabulary.
I particularly disliked Adele but she showed glimpses of deeper thought, but then blew it with moments of stupidity.

I dont quite understand the accusation of playacting on roller skates
Are you suggesting they should have skated in a more open, honest fashion, perhaps with a more intellectual style?
I think they were probably just having FUN. Do you know what that is?

A few people here have mentioned that BB has little future now, as the original formula has been tainted with the introduction of so many wannabes.

I myself feel that a precedent has been set which could be difficult to shake off.

However, we too can alter and set the precedent of future BB's.

If we don't like the "playacting" or "auditioning", then we punish the guity parties by evicting them when the opportunity presents itself.

Hopefully next year, contestents will think twice about setting up staged comedy routines.

The only staged routines that I have ever enjoyed on BB, are when a task had been set, it all seemed to work better in that situation.

If I want people tring out sketches or light entertainment comedy skits, I'll switch channels and watch Brian Conley or Michael Barrymore, people who can do it slightly better.

People here refer to Tim as intelligent just because he's posh. A lot of people are smarter than Tim. He's no common sense and is stupid in the way he can be like Jade. Saying something stupid without thinking.

So well put Elysium. The dynamic dumdums have become unbearable !

But not only are they taking every opportunity to fulfill their careerist goals they are also bullying the other housemates in the process - and have done so from the start. If you don't play the 'Jonny and Kate' way then you are boring, a killjoy, wasting the opportunity, dragging us all down etc etc.
And if all else fails Jonny and Kate will just pull off your nickers and force you to have fun ! A disgrace, so why are so many people fooled?

Eejay

Oh brother!

You are so right ! Who can forget Sunita's look of sheer total horror as she watched the antics of Jonny, Kate and Alison !

Eejay

Yes had those people been left in, it would be a better Big Brother, then watching Jade, Johnny and Kate and their comedy routine!

*Reads and spits coffee from her nose*
Bless you, Bob - that puts things nicely in perspective.
Should be the final word on this thread, that (some chance.)

Well, I have to agree with you. I just rely on this forum for info now as i find the sight of Jonny's antics along with his shadow, Kate's, quite nauseating. That is as bad as the completely biased ant-Alex ticker-tape on E4

No offence Lucy but your name conjures up some less than pretty pictures in my mind. Can you explain it?