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Kate being painted as 2 faced b1tch on RI:SE by Dr. Sandra Scott
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Tracy
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by magsiesss


The word MAY should be changed to HAS.

It is also notable, for instance yesterday afternoon in particular, that any time Jade asked Jonny or Kate to play a game with her or go into the swimming pool, they were just not interested.

They don't need to keep her sweet any more - no more nominations.
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I'd agree with you there. Jonny was canvassing her vote on the sofas on Sunday morning between 5 and 6am, and it was obvious that it worked.

You only had to see exactly how Jonny was treating Jade after nominations had been made. He was getting funny over her cooking their tea. He didn't like the fact that he wasn't consulted about it, and had to butt in on how to cook the chicken. The same was happening between Jade and Kate when it came to wringing the towel out, and in the end Jade called her a ********.

Their nominations were a pact of convienience not a friendship. Jade's now served her purpose, she was the deciding factor in who got nominated yesterday.

All we're getting now, is Kate and Jonny saying how good and funny they are, suddenly how they feel sorry for Alex, and every time Jade joins them, they clam up.
observer
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by curtaintwitcher

Nominating Alex doesnt actually mean that she wants him to go. She has to nominate two people and perhaps Alex is just last in the list of people she would like to remain.
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How can you state that, and at the same time say she didn't want him to go?! Please, be rational when you make up excuses for her.
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As for Alex knowing she nominated him, unless the votes had been evenly spread so all housemates were up for eviction, she would have realised that would happen no matter who she nominated.
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She thought that Alex Tim and Jade would be up for nomination, if that was the case, Alex wouldn't figured out that Kate nominated him. she was sure that the others would nominate Jade for her, and she wanted to play a double game!
metafis
17-07-2002
Kate was voting tactically I think. I mean, it IS a game after all, that people are trying to win(no matter how much they deny it!).

Its like Darran Gough bowling a yorker and people complaining that he's 'being nasty to the batsman'.

imo
studley
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by emzi restalez
I thought Sandra Scott's analysis of Kate's reaction to the nomination results wasn't entirely correct...I thought she looked honestly shocked when she realised that Jade wasn't up for eviction. Perhaps she betted on the other three opting to evict Jade?

Either way, Kates face was a picture when she realised Jade would be with her until almost the very end of BB...
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That's how I saw it too. I thought Dr S talked a load of 'biased?' rubbish; but then having worked with/for the Psycho crowd I found most of them talk rubbish, make wild guesses, on a frequent basis.
Harshad
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by MrNice


And there was me thinking it was an entertainment program!

Alex is boring, has been since day 1. Even Tim is more interesting!

MrNice.
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Are you watching Big Brother from Mars?
curtaintwitcher
17-07-2002
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“Originally posted by observer

How can you state that, and at the same time say she didn't want him to go?! Please, be rational when you make up excuses for her.

She thought that Alex Tim and Jade would be up for nomination, if that was the case, Alex wouldn't figured out that Kate nominated him. she was sure that the others would nominate Jade for her, and she wanted to play a double game!
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Of course I am being rational Observer. I wouldnt want you to go but you might be the person who I would be most prepared to lose. Personally I think Kate was voting tactically but it doesnt mean that nominating someone means you want to lose them, it just means that you would prefer others to stay over that person.
eden2uk
17-07-2002
How can voting Tim and Alex be tactical? They know Tim has no chance of winning over Alex they heard the shouts as well. If it is tactical it is because they want Tim out not Alex
kmac
17-07-2002
I think it's tactical because they want Alex to walk.
Tess
17-07-2002
Total respect Dr S. At last someone's had the courage to shatter the myth about 'sweet, dear Kate'. A lot of us will agree with you, but in the main you wont be popular for it.
gadgieman
17-07-2002
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reminds me of that sketch by dennis pennis about that fad exercise stick where supposed "satisfied customers" come on with "I was paid to lie" label describing them.



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alibat
17-07-2002
Taking it that the outcome on Friday will mean it's Tim who goes, although I have a preference which could even change I wouldn't really mind who walks off with the prize money, now.

Alex supporters call Kate "two faced" but in reality although I think Alex is the most interesting and possibly the most complex personality within the group, when he is being nice, he's interesting but when he's bored, bitter or being influenced he's also a real back stabber and since Adele left seems to be very angry that Jade is still there.

Their's alot of talk about Kate and Jonny being false and their tactics being for the camera and whilst I think these two are probably not the most interesting characters on camera due to repetative games and who are also not unknown to bitch them- selves like all the house mates have to differing degree's, they prefer to have fun between them selves to relieve boredom rather than getting carried away with bitching and to me come across as two basically nice people and of course they are playing a game as each are but with different tactics.
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