Jonny & Kate questioning Tim on why there is an atmosphere in the house with Alex...

Maybe because Jonny, Kate and Jade voted for Tim & Alex. Which they worked out but Jonny thinks they don't know.

Replying to myself... sorry!

Kate just said to Tim "when you went to the auditions did you tell them you where going to do 'this & that' or did you tell them you where going to sit around doing nothing" GO KATE!!

Yes Jonny does realise he just said "yes but that's the game"

I love the way that Tim is saying that him and Alex dont just go into the bedroom and slag off everyone, what a load of rubbish, i have seen them do it every night.

Alex was already being funny before the nominations!

I wish they'd go and get Alex!!

Tim is diggin' himself a VERY big hole....

God I wish we could get them BOTH out this week. Maybe there will be a dead heat

Tim is such lying little toad. Alex is such a vicious little sod.

And to sulk because people have nominated you - Jesus Christ, that is soooooo pathetic.

Tim keeps saying "you really need to speak to Alex Jonny, I don't have a problem with anyone" yeah right, he is just trying to wriggle out of the conversation... Alex has just gone past to the loo, I hope he joins in when he comes out...

Hmmmm...Kate could be clawing back a bit of my respect. Hopefully they won’t let the slimy toad wriggle off the hook.

How could Tim’s parents possibly view his time in the house and still be proud of him?

OMG Timmy thinks he is sooo much better than anyone else

The problem with Tim there, was he started getting aggressive with Jonny and Kate - the more I think about these things the more I see that it's Alex and Tim who are the children of the house, unable to have a conversation without slagging someone off and get aggressive.

Kates talking to Jade about it now and still being reasonably fair to Tim pointing out that its not his cup of tea so "fair enough" - are Alex or Tim ever that fair about the others when they talk about them? I think not.

And for anyone who didn't see the conversation earlier this afternoon between Jonny and Kate:

Jonny' this was just how it was in the last series when they got down to five' before going into one of his huge anaylsis of the last series and how it went.

But the most interesting thing was when he said to Kate 'we don't want to be seen in a bad light'.

Common little weazel

And yes Peter sulking because you have been nominated is pathetic - and we've had to put up Jonny doing just that every time to a level that makes Alex's strop pale in comparison!

imo Tim did really well, was tactful and polite and told Jonny enough to make him think what he is thought of. Tim was avoiding an out and out argument, he did well. But the result was right.

IF JONNY HAS SUCH A PROBLEM WITH ALEX, WHY NOT GO SPEAK WITH HIM DIRECTLY, WHY ASK TIM????

Because he's had experience of trying to hold an adult conversation with Alex in a strop.

So you agree do you? Well I trust you will stop defending him, and will not be voting for him.

For your information I am disinterested in Jonny, and feel that the only person who deserves to win is Jade.

Why? Pity is not a good enough reason either.

and why did kate just twist everything Tim had said when she was repeating the conversation to Jade........methinks Kate is stirring it a bit!!!!

No he's had experience of play acting around Alex and Alex doesn't take the bait.

'oh why doesn't everyone like me' whines Jonny, 'I try my best'. The mans as transparent as glass, uncouth, boring and the epitomy of people who cannot see beyond their own noses (or local pubs).

The sooner Jonny learns (a) not all people are the same, (b) not all people aspire to be him and (c) not all people like him he'll find the world a mouch easier place and it may finally dawn on him that for someone else to 'tolerate' you is actually a great trait, toleration is the basis of a peaceful life as we'll never live a life where everyone gets on chummy chummy which is the utopia Jonny holds in his mind, a utopia where everyone finds fart jokes rip roaring funny and where you can only have had a good time when you're so plastered you can't remember anything.

Maybe Jonny should learn to tolerate a bit more.

Your right, I won't be voting Alex out

I suppose I will leap to defend Alex as for me he resperesents all those people who've ever been belitted by the clique fraction for daring not to fit in with their lets get p*ssed attitude and clinging to their 'yuff' for grim life.

If you remember Jonny did try twice with the shower incident, both times alex refused and didn't shake his hand and told him he didn't want to speak to him, so i don't particulary blame Jonny not going to Alex again.

"and why did kate just twist everything Tim had said when she was repeating the conversation to Jade........methinks Kate is stirring it a bit!!!!"

She was fair to him! She even said "It's not for everyone - so fair enough"

Why do people see things so differently?

It's probably not worth it but here goes

Personally I'm not sure I would like to live in a house of open hostillity, * I * would do my utmost to do whatever I could to ease the situation.

Kate has said almost word for word what a lot of us were saying about Tim "I don't understand why someone like Tim would want to come on BB in the first place"

I don't want to argue about it ok...

I'm just putting it like * I * see it...

I'm GLAD Jonny had that conversation, (with Kate helping) If nothing else it makes it more interesting to watch.

Rennie-you're very astute. Why is Alex not able to sleep in the sun away from the pack without being accused of dividing the group or spoiling their fun. Jonny spent half of last week asleep and away from the company in his bed.

Exactly ... she told Jade that Tim thought they were stupid.

Manipulative twisting of the meanings. All Tim had said really is that he wished there were more interesting characters in the house such as PJ and Spencer so they could sit and discuss things.

Now ... change that to "you are being stupid"

I'm not really sure what is wrong with wanting to be seen in a good light - do you walk around saying "I want everyone to hate me, but at least I'm being true to myself"?