Is Darren the only non whinging celebrity.

:yawn: I've got a cold, I've got knee problems, I've got other commitments!

and as it was pointed out on ITT the only one not to desire a ten - or at least not SAY they are aiming for a ten!

surely by the very mention of the word 'fat' he is giving himself an excuse - ie being supposedly 'fat' you therefore have a handicap

Tut Tut Tut!

although apparently he was quoting something freddie flintoff (hottie!!!) had said!

wow - i am SO on the defensive for him today!!! hehe!!!

Ooooh, I'm not feminine, like Colin

Ooooh,dancing is acceptable in athletics, it's not in cricket

Ooooh, we don't dance up north - erm your mum's a ballet dancer/teacher

Ooooh me mates me mates

The looks on their faces when they got bad marks for the foxtrot was pure disappointment. I think it's great if celebs are aiming for a 10, if it drives them to dance better, then it's great entertainment for me.

a little harsh!

maybe thats what he was like at the beginning but now he's all for dancing!
and comparing himself to the more feminine colin is just funy - they couldnt be more different

Colin - I've got Knee problems meaning I've had several operations on the knee is not really the same thing. Maybe we should praise colin for playing it down.

Darren has also said I'm a bowler, I'm supposed to be big and bulky after criticism about his hand/arm movement

I think everyone makes those kind of comments now and again, it doesn't always mean they are after sympathy

Yeah that's what I think too Little miss.
Last edited by Eclipse80 : 07-12-2005 at 13:52

Doesn't he have just the greatest attitude??? Love him to bits!! Darren to win!

I might have this in the wrong thread but I think it fits the thread title. Looking at Darren in the fist show and being a dancer myself I did not expect much due to his body type. Was I wrong, he has worked well and produced some excellent dances, again when it came to his Jive I thought no way and even Len said he could have a problem. Was I wrong, Darran's Jive is one of the highlights of all the dances, I would like to see some pros dance as well. So he is better than not bad for a fat lad and this should not be applied to him. Well done Darren and I hope you get to the final

He's doing well, but I cannot make myself admire or like him.

Maybe it's just me but I find his 'nancy boy' comments and the way he says it, offensive in this day and age.

oh i think his nancy boy comments are great! and you can tell he doesnt mean ANY offence by it because he doesnt say it in a malicious or derogatory way!

If we are going to live with these people 24/7 (as we do with ITT) they are going to be heard making all sorts of comments and talking about all sorts of day to day things like colds, past knee injuries, and their mates. It happens when you engage in conversation with people, almost daily, over ten weeks. Some will even end up taken out of context given editing.

Forget about it.

They have all been a lovely bunch.

Well sorry Colin hardly moans, he has had seven knee operations and that must take it's toll on his latin dancing and he hardly goes on about it just explains why he is worried about how it will affect his performance.

H77 only one knee op. but still aches during the winter and in Marks and Spencers (don't ask)

It is 7 as I thought then! Do you frequent the same artic M&S as I do then? Get's my dodgy foot going too.

Sorry to disagree with you on this one, but Darren's foxtrot go texactly the same marks as Colin's dance that week; they were joint second.

Wasn't there a load of flak aimed at the judges for having awarded higher points for Darren & Lilia's foxtrot, than for Colin & Erin's; on the grounds that the on of the judges described Colin's performance as the best, male, celebrity foxtrot they'd ever seen on the show? Funny, but Colin danced his foxtrot the week before Darren so, unless the judges are blessed with the ability to see into the future; something I doubt as they do have a tendency not to be able to see mistakes in the dancing, tghey could genuinely have meant the remark to Colin & still have been quite proper to award a higher mark, for the same dance, to Darren one week later.

You obviously don't understand northern, working class humour. Much of this is mickey taking, pure & simple, believe me, your mates can be far worse when extracting the urine than anything sontained in these statements.

There we all were, on the Darren & Lilia threads, quietly getting along without calling anyone, other than the judges (Funny, but we tended to agree that Erin was within her rights to do this the other week, have generally held that Zoe can't be held responsible for the judges actions & that any backlash against her, by the GBP is unfair.). We could actually sit here & discuss the merits of another couple's performance without having to stoop to unfounded attacks, when someone has to bring the new found taste for exchanging insults into what was a peaceful world.

As one of the long term posters in the D & L; in addition to other threads, kindly take this type of exchange elsewhere & leave us to just enjoy the program & our favourite couple for what they mean to us, without having to worry about whether every post is going tbe the next shot in a vendetta.

I dont think any of them moan really. Yes sometimes, it can get a bit too much, so who wouldn't whinge a little. We all would. Colin hasnt moaned about his knee. He merely explained that he didnt think he would be as good at the jive as people expect because of it. Similarly, Darren doesnt moan either about being bigger.

I think the celebrities are being given too much of a hard time here by some of the forum members. Its fair enough to critique their dancing, but its very unfair to start bashing the celebrities themselves, in terms of their personal characteristics, when they are all clearly very nice people.

We have to remember this is a competition, therefore its only natural to be competitive

Sorry i mean V waltz. And I have replayed the clip they were disappointed.

And as for the northern sense of humour can you please state where this applies, wrt my quotes, and when it is different to anyone elses sense of humour.


I'm unsure what these unfounded attacks are that you speak of?

And as this is a thread asking if Darren is the only non-whinging celeb.I will defend these so called 'whinging" celebs. There is no need to talk about the Darren and lilia Thread as I have not posted in there.

My problem is with the whole idea of a thread that is guaranteed to be inflamatory, just by its subject matter. It is just the same as I I had, purely hypothetically, opened a thread implying that Colin was cheating by doing most of his practicing in Cardiff (I stress that this is not an opinion, just an example). There would be guarenteed to be people who would take the bait & post an rebuttal of this statement, whilst others would post agreements & before know it we've got another of the many wasted, "I Hate So & So, Don't You?", type threads that are becoming more & more prevalent at the moment.

My only cause for disagreement with you was that your argument regarding the dance scores was flawed; something you've now corrected, & the fact that, being in a fairly similar age group to Darren; & having spent my formative years in a similar environment, I can actually understand the nature & origin of his remarks & respond to these two points; reasonably I should hope, below.

Northern working class lads; especially from an old mining town, are still expected to behave as if they wouldn't be seen dead doing anything so wimpish as eating quiche, let alone dancing. Their mates would never let them live it down, so they make a joke out of such things by feigning an exagerated reluctance to indulge in them/making it appear as if they are having to have their arms twisted up their back every step of the way.

(Also you must remember the tradition of referring to all southerners; be they English or Welsh, as soft jessies.)

That is what I mean by the reference to their sense of humour.

On the basis that you were referring to the V. waltz & not the foxtrot, fine, I concede that they looked disappointed with their score, but other couples have been allowed to be disappointed by the scores awarded. in comparisson to the judges comments; just the same as Erin was within her rights to question the judges actions, so others are entitled to look disappointed

Well as a daughter of a Yorkshire man and a good deal older than Darren, I find excuses for ignorant behaviour which is the way I see some of his comments are ridiculous in this day and age.

At his age he should know better.

Fair enough. I was not trying to put darren down. I have said in this post they all make commnets/ reasons for not doing well, before the dance, including Darren.

But I think this sense of humour refers to all lads, whether they be from the north or south. I just disliked the fact he was comparing himself to another dancing who was doing really well, as if they had it easier. As a former amateur athlete, the environment that Colin trained in would be the furthest thing from effiminate. Athletes would have absolutely no reason to take to ballroom dancing more easily than a cricketer.

I have appaulded both Darren and Colin for their efforts and would not think one is trying harder than the other.

Fine, as I have expressed admiration for both Colin & Erin on other threads.

Can we agree to bury the hatchet & let try to let this little thread die the natural death it deserves?

Glen

If there was a hatchet out, then it's buried.

Good luck to them both