Okay, I apologise for that, but just have to say I disagree completely with

"Talking about anyone while they are not there, in my book is bitching"

That arguement seemed good until the 'c'mon alex' bit. Obviously your support for him is somehow distorting your view just like over 90% of the other Alex fans on this board who feel they have to put down the other housemate's in order to boost Alex's popularity instead of picking his good points and promoting them.

As for the punchbag thing, as I've been told before (ironically by an Alex fan) on this board, that was a lot of weeks ago - the past. If we want to go back to week 1 I can remember Alex overdramatizing about a 'shower incident' and agreeing with Sandy that Kate 'has every1's cubs' i.e. that she is a whore and making kate cry a few times.

Ok firstly when most people have problems on there mind they like to talk about it with people rather then discissing there
"Job and countries they've been to"
But I suppose Alex forgot about the -
"You can only talk about to Kate about countries & jobs or she'll report back to Jonny clause"

Secoundly the punch bag thing may of happened 5 weeks ago but it was just another example of how Kate has been out of order as far as Alex is concerned.

it stuns me to think that BOTH want to quit, that most of the other housemates have, at some stage threatened to, and that TWO already have. It stuns and shocks me; after two series, I don't get it. The first series, I can understand. But NOW???

So much for C4's "huge" number of applications - the tight net, pysch interviews, rigourous auditions - and people who apparently hadn't thought what the house would be like and can't bear to be with people they can't get on with - what the hell's going on?

Andrew

Hmmm i thought that was called backstabbing not bitching

LTT - See... I'm not a nasty person, so OBVIOUSLY I couldn't tell the difference.

OH YES THEY HAVE! Kate and Jonny have been as clique as all the others, and that is natural, so why say not? Jonny, Kate, PJ, Spencer and Jade in/out were always a clique. Alex's clique have largely gone, except of late comer Tim, and just as well they get on or Alex would be alone in the house, not his fault. But as far as I'm concerened he has ecery reason to think he might hit the jackpot. My hope is to see Jonny evicted before Alex - that would be oh so sweet justice. Whether Kate or Alex win it, who knows. In a funny way I'd like Jade to win it and show BB3 for the total farce it is anyway.

Bitching - 1.To talk spitefully, 2.to complain; grumble.

Hmmmm so let me see..........alex and adele wasnt in a little clique with jade joining in????
or do alex supporters seem to forget this??

Of course not, Alex has his faults, but Alex is easily influenced by other people...he didn't set the clique up, Adele and Jade did. His only real fault is he listens too much to other people and is too trusting. Which is why he didn't see that coming when Kate and Jade nominated.

Didn't Alex say he expected him and Jade to be up? I think Alex is most upset about Jade not being up for eviction knowing full well how two faced she's been.

Surely that's the point? Kate & Jonny didn't voteJade, as they knew she wasn't popular and she'd be easy to beat come final night. What was all that about Kate & Jonny talking last week saying they should have got rid of her first week, then not to nominate her!!

DITTO Alex being the worst offender at least they havn't chopped and changed like Alex Sandy Adelle then Tim. All shallow selfish ppl. Alex has a lot more in common with Jonny and Kate than he thinks. I love all three and must admit my vote for Jonny was swaying towards Alex last week now its gone to Kate.

Don't think it's ever going to end with us AHA...

"Surely that's the point? Kate & Jonny didn't voteJade, as they knew she wasn't popular and she'd be easy to beat come final night. "

Why did they vote Tim then? They know he's far more unpopular than Jade probably is and would be much easier to beat. They've got on much better with Jade over the last few days than they have Alex, and she's proven herself to be quite a sweet person depending on who she's with. I think it's more likely to be down to the fact jade can have a laugh and Alex just can't, than it is your version (which I believe mr. I'm so intelligent Tim came up with as well).


If anything, the smart thing to do would have been to keep Tim and Alex together for the final week, and let them ruin each other even more.


"What was all that about Kate & Jonny talking last week saying they should have got rid of her first week, then not to nominate her!!"

That was then, after all the sshit she had caused - she can't do that now, with things the way they are, and she does just seem to want to have fun.

I know Gazza, we'll just have to call a truce. To be honest, there's times when I cant stand Kate, then she'll do something nice and I'm like aww she's lovely really!! What do our views matter anyway?! lol Everone has their own, regardless of what we say.

Kate gossips.....Alex bitches! That's the difference.

Both are just as bad, if they have the same outcome, ie influencing someones views?

Anyway, I've had enough ranting(me I'm talking about) for one day

People who are easily influenced by other people are still accountable for their actions ..prisions are full of 'easily influenced people' ...Alex had admitted he holds the same views as Adele, Tim and Sandy. Alex is not a victim, he's a volunteer!

Eh?? prisons?? I was referring to being influenced, regarding him taking other's people's views I know he's gullible, but I dont think you can equate him to criminals.

I find it quite interesting that Alex didnt nominate Tim, despite Tim's request that he did so.

I haven't equated Alex to a crimal.........that's in your head......what I said was...'prisons are full of people who are easily influenced'

No way!! Kate has shown her true colours, now she is doing her little talk to justify her 2 facedness to the public. We all have seen how Alex has changed his attitude towards her for the better, and how he made up with her, he trusted her and thought they got along well. When Alex started to feel down it was by the same time he started having toothaches and headaches, and it was just a day before the nomination day, so I don't by her reason for nominating him. You just have to look at the face expression and that 'false' grin that she had in the DR when she nominated him, it was a 'betrayal' grin, she knows that she was backstabbing him big time and that's why her face couldn't stay straight when pronouncing his name in the diary room. Now she is trying to make it like she has been honest with him, she is insulting our intellinge if she thinks we will fall for her speech! She had formed an alliance with Jonny and it was obvious who she would vote for. Fair enough, it's her choice, but please don't make it like she acted in all honesty towards Alex.

But he *did* just THAT since the divide's gone, and made an effort to get on with her. Look what happened! Why should be trust her again?! Can you talk rationally sometimes?

In your little talk you forgot to tell to Jonny "please Jonny don't get in between Alex and Kate when they are privately together"

Then WHY did she LIED to him when he asked her about the 'fellow the van'?! And when he asked her that he will know the truth about it once he is out and see the video, and she continued to LIE and told him that he will see that she never played 'fellow the van' with Alex. What was she thinking?!

Alex was only getting on with Kate - because Adele told him to!!!