MP3 player radio transmitter - like iTrip

cbudden · 10-12-2005, 18:08

Does anyone know where I can get one?

PhilipM · 10-12-2005, 18:53

Might I suggest that you DON'T get one, 'cause they're apparently illegal to use in this country!

cbudden · 10-12-2005, 23:45

Apparently Belkin make a legal version. Anyway, who is going to stop me? Also I have seen iTrips for sale in PC world. Is this illegal?

PhilipM · 11-12-2005, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbudden

Apparently Belkin make a legal version. Anyway, who is going to stop me?

I believe that job theoretically belongs to Ofcom. See here:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/mofaq/...itrip/?a=87101

Also look here for a reference to Belkin:
http://techdigestuk.typepad.com/tech..._uk_itrip.html

"As any UK iPod obsessive will tell you Griffin, along with Belkin which markets a similar product, has chickened out from launching the iTrip in the UK as it was deemed to be outside of the law - you are in essence creating your own pirate radio station"

I don't think this has changed recently, because it was mentioned about a month ago on the Gadget show.

cbudden · 11-12-2005, 10:09

Why do these things not come under the same category of radio microphones?

PhilipM · 11-12-2005, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbudden

Why do these things not come under the same category of radio microphones?

Simply because of the part of the spectrum they use. iTrip broadcasts on the normal FM spectrum which is allocated to commercial radio stations. Radio mikes use a frequency allocated for use without a licence, as do wireless routers, cordless phones and radio control vehicles.

As another point, have you ever taken a look at the packaging of those small radio controlled vehicles you used to be able to get in the Gadget Shop? They usually said "for use in the UK only", another indication that frequencies that are fine in one country may not be fine somewhere else!

Sancheez · 11-12-2005, 12:26

http://www.merconnet.com/product_inf...roducts_id=426.

mjk79 · 11-12-2005, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbudden

Apparently Belkin make a legal version. Anyway, who is going to stop me? Also I have seen iTrips for sale in PC world. Is this illegal?

Even if you get one it can be a pain in the arse to use it in London, there are so many stations (especially pirate stations which you'd also effectively become) jam-packed on the dial that it is almost impossible to find a clear channel.

Bill Clinton · 11-12-2005, 13:49

I got one from Ebay, there's plenty listed there, works for covering the house. It's much more useful than cordless headphones as it works on any radio and in the car, I really hope they become legal at some point, there's plenty of radio stations in the average US city for instance but they don't have a problem there.

mjk79 · 11-12-2005, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

...there's plenty of radio stations in the average US city for instance but they don't have a problem there.

It was a right pain in the arse trying to get mine to work and find a clear channel in some urban areas over there.

A big problem seemed to be the use of their "In-Band, On-Channel" digital radio system which meant you couldn't use adjacent frequencies because they contained a digital carrier.

10-12-2005, 18:08	#1
cbudden Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 824	MP3 player radio transmitter - like iTrip Does anyone know where I can get one?

10-12-2005, 18:53	#2
PhilipM Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 987	Might I suggest that you DON'T get one, 'cause they're apparently illegal to use in this country! Last edited by PhilipM : 10-12-2005 at 19:30.

10-12-2005, 23:45	#3
cbudden Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 824	Apparently Belkin make a legal version. Anyway, who is going to stop me? Also I have seen iTrips for sale in PC world. Is this illegal?

11-12-2005, 01:58	#4
PhilipM Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 987	Quote: Originally Posted by cbudden Apparently Belkin make a legal version. Anyway, who is going to stop me? I believe that job theoretically belongs to Ofcom. See here: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/mofaq/...itrip/?a=87101 Also look here for a reference to Belkin: http://techdigestuk.typepad.com/tech..._uk_itrip.html "As any UK iPod obsessive will tell you Griffin, along with Belkin which markets a similar product, has chickened out from launching the iTrip in the UK as it was deemed to be outside of the law - you are in essence creating your own pirate radio station" I don't think this has changed recently, because it was mentioned about a month ago on the Gadget show.

11-12-2005, 10:09	#5
cbudden Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 824	Why do these things not come under the same category of radio microphones?

11-12-2005, 11:39	#6
PhilipM Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 987	Quote: Originally Posted by cbudden Why do these things not come under the same category of radio microphones? Simply because of the part of the spectrum they use. iTrip broadcasts on the normal FM spectrum which is allocated to commercial radio stations. Radio mikes use a frequency allocated for use without a licence, as do wireless routers, cordless phones and radio control vehicles. As another point, have you ever taken a look at the packaging of those small radio controlled vehicles you used to be able to get in the Gadget Shop? They usually said "for use in the UK only", another indication that frequencies that are fine in one country may not be fine somewhere else!

11-12-2005, 12:26	#7
Sancheez Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 880	http://www.merconnet.com/product_inf...roducts_id=426.

11-12-2005, 12:39	#8
mjk79 Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central London Posts: 6,845	Quote: Originally Posted by cbudden Apparently Belkin make a legal version. Anyway, who is going to stop me? Also I have seen iTrips for sale in PC world. Is this illegal? Even if you get one it can be a pain in the arse to use it in London, there are so many stations (especially pirate stations which you'd also effectively become) jam-packed on the dial that it is almost impossible to find a clear channel.

11-12-2005, 13:49	#9
Bill Clinton Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SouthWirral 1986-2002 & 2004-? Posts: 7,082	I got one from Ebay, there's plenty listed there, works for covering the house. It's much more useful than cordless headphones as it works on any radio and in the car, I really hope they become legal at some point, there's plenty of radio stations in the average US city for instance but they don't have a problem there.

11-12-2005, 15:56	#10
mjk79 Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central London Posts: 6,845	Quote: Originally Posted by Bill Clinton ...there's plenty of radio stations in the average US city for instance but they don't have a problem there. It was a right pain in the arse trying to get mine to work and find a clear channel in some urban areas over there. A big problem seemed to be the use of their "In-Band, On-Channel" digital radio system which meant you couldn't use adjacent frequencies because they contained a digital carrier.

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