Problems with T-Mobile SMS - Anyone?

lee18xx · 15-12-2005, 23:08

Hi

Tonight I am in a fowl mood. I am a T-Mobile fanboy, I really am, i'll defend them to the bone.

But for the last week or so, ever text I've sent has taken like 1/2 an hour to be received. I'm not just telling this from delivery reports, but the people I am texting tell me the time they receive the texts and they're just not right.

It's pissing me off so much because I'm relying on these texts to arrange nights out, etc. and i'm having to phone people as the texts aren't working properly - too inconvenient when i'm at work and not really available to talk.

Has anybody else had such problems. If not, it's time for me to plague T-Mobile for an answer!

Many thanks

Everything Goes · 15-12-2005, 23:44

No problems on T-Mobile for texts here. It may be the network your freinds are on? Perhaps they use O2? Or maybe network congestion at your location?

Steven L Hunter · 17-12-2005, 23:38

If they are on O2 or Orange, you've had it they networks go down so badly at christmas and new year time.

WordLife · 17-12-2005, 23:40

my O2 is workin just fine thank you

dreamypuma · 17-12-2005, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

If they are on O2 or Orange, you've had it they networks go down so badly at christmas and new year time.

There speaks the voice of ignorance.

WordLife · 18-12-2005, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamypuma

There speaks the voice of ignorance.

i dunno about you but my phone is having no trouble communicating with the O2 network

(i see you're on Orange, which is the other network that was mentioned)

Steven L Hunter · 18-12-2005, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamypuma

There speaks the voice of ignorance.

I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period.

Thanhuk · 18-12-2005, 14:26

Thsi year, I shall be sending my News Years Txts about 10-15 mins before new years day - Last year was terrible and I couldnt send anything for 4 hours!

WordLife · 18-12-2005, 14:41

last New Years Day i was on T-Mobile and i couldn't phone/send sms and receive calls/sms until around 2 AM. everytime i tried to make a call, my phone would say "Congestion" and the "Network Busy Tone" could be heard.

this year i am on O2, i'll see how that goes

Redcoat · 18-12-2005, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period.

Have you a source to back your claim up? I believe that Orange has the biggest capacity of all UK networks and that O2 hasn't had a major Christmas/New Year network problem now for a few years.

dreamypuma · 18-12-2005, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period.

I've been on most networks over the years. BT Cellnet and Vodafone regularly had problems with capacity in built up busy areas at peak times, back in the day. I certainly have not suffered from these problems on any unforgivable scale or for longer than a few minutes in recent years.

I have never suffered capacity problems on T-mobile or Orange, even in Edinburgh or London on New Years eve. I can't comment on Vodafone but o2 have also increased capacity massively in heavily populated areas in recent years. All networks are prone to going down over the festive period, however the entire network won't go down. Problems are usually are in isolated pockets for short periods.

I only know of one incident where I lost coverage entirely for a long period and this was on one2one for about 2hours, in the height of summer this was in 1998.

lost boy · 18-12-2005, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period.

Hmmm... I agree with you regarding O2 - it's gone down regular as clockwork every new years here. It's record is 36 hours!

As for Orange though... hardly. It even outperformed T-Mobile here last new years, whereas T-Mobile wobbled from about 00.30 until 04.00 Orange worked straight through, just throwing up the odd 'Network Busy' for calls but sending texts straight off

sean2003 · 18-12-2005, 20:23

I recieved a text earlier and the time on it was 10 mins before when it came through... i called the person and they had just sent it. So the t-mobile clocks are slow or something!

lost boy · 18-12-2005, 20:24

However, in response to the OP - I can't really say for T-Mobile itself. However, I'm having no problems on Virgin which is powered by T-Mobile... if that's any help

Steven L Hunter · 18-12-2005, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcoat

Have you a source to back your claim up? I believe that Orange has the biggest capacity of all UK networks and that O2 hasn't had a major Christmas/New Year network problem now for a few years.

I'm just oging by the amount of people posting here last year about it and just oging from experience that texts on O2 & Orange take longer to send/receive at busy times.

suzieq · 18-12-2005, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redcoat

Have you a source to back your claim up? I believe that Orange has the biggest capacity of all UK networks and that O2 hasn't had a major Christmas/New Year network problem now for a few years.

Couldn't send any texts on o2 last New Year from midnight till 5am! Hope it's better this year

Redcoat · 19-12-2005, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I'm just oging by the amount of people posting here last year about it and just oging from experience that texts on O2 & Orange take longer to send/receive at busy times.

Postings from a few posters on an internet forum hardly qualifies as "fact".

I have recalled Vodafone having had some problems in the past and also O2 when they were BT Cellnet. I can't say that I've ever seen problems on Orange. Usually these problems tend to be localised. And for that reason no-one would ever seem to have too many problems with T-Mobile as very few people around here use them (I only know one person of about 150 - and there's a very special reason for that)

Garyo2 · 19-12-2005, 10:51

O2 had no problems with the SMSC last year over the Christmas and New year period, so any problems sending SMS was down to people hammering the cell sites and as such will only effect places where capacity has been reached.

19-12-2005, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I'm just oging by the amount of people posting here last year about it and just oging from experience that texts on O2 & Orange take longer to send/receive at busy times.

I've been with O2 more years than I care to remember and can honestly say I have never known their network to go down completely.

I am always able to send & receive calls & texts at Christmas & New Year, although in the early years not many people had mobile phones and many of those who did were not SMS capable. The most recent time when O2 was not fully available was during the bombings London (it was only areas of London affected) because O2 turned some of their capacity to the emergency services. I believe Vodafone was similarly affected for similar reasons.

A lot of the criticism of O2 you see on these forums appears to orginate from you Steven

Vashta Nerada · 19-12-2005, 11:18

Im on three & sometimes texts to my mate on t-mobile doesnt get delivered at all its the only network i have this problem.

Steven L Hunter · 21-12-2005, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawson

A lot of the criticism of O2 you see on these forums appears to orginate from you Steven

I'm just telling it like it is, I have hardly posted in a while about O2, it's other people that post about them.

I'm with the best network now with best UK coverage which is vodafone so I won't have any problems at all.

21-12-2005, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I'm with the best network now with best UK coverage which is vodafone so I won't have any problems at all.

I thought you were a T-Mobile boy

Oh silly me that was last month

(and you appear to have been through Virgin in the meantime too - I just can't keep up)

Looks like lee18xx is keeping tally though

"Lad, you've had more networks than I've had hot dinners"

Steven L Hunter · 21-12-2005, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawson

I thought you were a T-Mobile boy

Oh silly me that was last month

(and you appear to have been through Virgin in the meantime too - I just can't keep up)

Looks like lee18xx is keeping tally though

"Lad, you've had more networks than I've had hot dinners"

I moved from T-Mobile as there was no call bundles at all and i needed a call bundle rather than paying 40p/min to other networks.

Garyo2 · 21-12-2005, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

If they are on O2 or Orange, you've had it they networks go down so badly at christmas and new year time.

What about T-Mobile and Vodafone are they exempt?

Though, it is quite plain that your opinion is just that, your opinion. You are not stating facts.

All networks suffer problems at certain points of the year such as Christmas or New Year, however the problems are not across the whole of the network, and are usually confined to areas where cell site capacity has been reached.

Orange have the largest capacity on their cell sites out of all the networks. O2 had no problems with their SMS server last year either so your comments are missleading.

IT will be the case this year, and in 3 years time, that from time to time at busy periods certain services in certain areas are going to not work as well as they could. However this is down to network load. Try opening 50 programs on your computer at the same time and see how it copes.

A small cell site can hold around 50 people, the bigger ones such as the ones in the London area can hold around 150 people making call continously. If hundreds upon hundreds of people in the same area try to all use their phone at the same time then their is bound to be problems.

22-12-2005, 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenGray16

I moved from T-Mobile as there was no call bundles at all and i needed a call bundle rather than paying 40p/min to other networks.

I didn't think x-network would be a problem to you since everyone you knew was on T-mobile

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...2&postcount=19

15-12-2005, 23:08	#1
lee18xx Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,794	Problems with T-Mobile SMS - Anyone? Hi Tonight I am in a fowl mood. I am a T-Mobile fanboy, I really am, i'll defend them to the bone. But for the last week or so, ever text I've sent has taken like 1/2 an hour to be received. I'm not just telling this from delivery reports, but the people I am texting tell me the time they receive the texts and they're just not right. It's pissing me off so much because I'm relying on these texts to arrange nights out, etc. and i'm having to phone people as the texts aren't working properly - too inconvenient when i'm at work and not really available to talk. Has anybody else had such problems. If not, it's time for me to plague T-Mobile for an answer! Many thanks

15-12-2005, 23:44	#2
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	No problems on T-Mobile for texts here. It may be the network your freinds are on? Perhaps they use O2? Or maybe network congestion at your location?

17-12-2005, 23:38	#3
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	If they are on O2 or Orange, you've had it they networks go down so badly at christmas and new year time.

17-12-2005, 23:40	#4
WordLife Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 712	my O2 is workin just fine thank you

17-12-2005, 23:57	#5
dreamypuma Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 2,129	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 If they are on O2 or Orange, you've had it they networks go down so badly at christmas and new year time. There speaks the voice of ignorance.

18-12-2005, 00:03	#6
WordLife Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 712	Quote: Originally Posted by dreamypuma There speaks the voice of ignorance. i dunno about you but my phone is having no trouble communicating with the O2 network (i see you're on Orange, which is the other network that was mentioned)

18-12-2005, 00:23	#7
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by dreamypuma There speaks the voice of ignorance. I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period.

18-12-2005, 14:26	#8
Thanhuk Guest Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,312	Thsi year, I shall be sending my News Years Txts about 10-15 mins before new years day - Last year was terrible and I couldnt send anything for 4 hours!

18-12-2005, 14:41	#9
WordLife Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 712	last New Years Day i was on T-Mobile and i couldn't phone/send sms and receive calls/sms until around 2 AM. everytime i tried to make a call, my phone would say "Congestion" and the "Network Busy Tone" could be heard. this year i am on O2, i'll see how that goes

18-12-2005, 18:56	#10
Redcoat Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The wilds of West Tyrone Posts: 2,122	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period. Have you a source to back your claim up? I believe that Orange has the biggest capacity of all UK networks and that O2 hasn't had a major Christmas/New Year network problem now for a few years.

18-12-2005, 19:01	#11
dreamypuma Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 2,129	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period. I've been on most networks over the years. BT Cellnet and Vodafone regularly had problems with capacity in built up busy areas at peak times, back in the day. I certainly have not suffered from these problems on any unforgivable scale or for longer than a few minutes in recent years. I have never suffered capacity problems on T-mobile or Orange, even in Edinburgh or London on New Years eve. I can't comment on Vodafone but o2 have also increased capacity massively in heavily populated areas in recent years. All networks are prone to going down over the festive period, however the entire network won't go down. Problems are usually are in isolated pockets for short periods. I only know of one incident where I lost coverage entirely for a long period and this was on one2one for about 2hours, in the height of summer this was in 1998.

18-12-2005, 20:12	#12
lost boy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolkland Posts: 1,787	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I'm not being ignorant i'm just stating a fact that they networks are mostly down over the festive period. Hmmm... I agree with you regarding O2 - it's gone down regular as clockwork every new years here. It's record is 36 hours! As for Orange though... hardly. It even outperformed T-Mobile here last new years, whereas T-Mobile wobbled from about 00.30 until 04.00 Orange worked straight through, just throwing up the odd 'Network Busy' for calls but sending texts straight off

18-12-2005, 20:23	#13
sean2003 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 2,618	I recieved a text earlier and the time on it was 10 mins before when it came through... i called the person and they had just sent it. So the t-mobile clocks are slow or something!

18-12-2005, 20:24	#14
lost boy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolkland Posts: 1,787	However, in response to the OP - I can't really say for T-Mobile itself. However, I'm having no problems on Virgin which is powered by T-Mobile... if that's any help

18-12-2005, 22:17	#15
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by Redcoat Have you a source to back your claim up? I believe that Orange has the biggest capacity of all UK networks and that O2 hasn't had a major Christmas/New Year network problem now for a few years. I'm just oging by the amount of people posting here last year about it and just oging from experience that texts on O2 & Orange take longer to send/receive at busy times.

18-12-2005, 22:22	#16
suzieq Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 368	Quote: Originally Posted by Redcoat Have you a source to back your claim up? I believe that Orange has the biggest capacity of all UK networks and that O2 hasn't had a major Christmas/New Year network problem now for a few years. Couldn't send any texts on o2 last New Year from midnight till 5am! Hope it's better this year

19-12-2005, 01:06	#17
Redcoat Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The wilds of West Tyrone Posts: 2,122	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I'm just oging by the amount of people posting here last year about it and just oging from experience that texts on O2 & Orange take longer to send/receive at busy times. Postings from a few posters on an internet forum hardly qualifies as "fact". I have recalled Vodafone having had some problems in the past and also O2 when they were BT Cellnet. I can't say that I've ever seen problems on Orange. Usually these problems tend to be localised. And for that reason no-one would ever seem to have too many problems with T-Mobile as very few people around here use them (I only know one person of about 150 - and there's a very special reason for that)

19-12-2005, 10:51	#18
Garyo2 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 566	O2 had no problems with the SMSC last year over the Christmas and New year period, so any problems sending SMS was down to people hammering the cell sites and as such will only effect places where capacity has been reached.

19-12-2005, 11:08	#19
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I'm just oging by the amount of people posting here last year about it and just oging from experience that texts on O2 & Orange take longer to send/receive at busy times. I've been with O2 more years than I care to remember and can honestly say I have never known their network to go down completely. I am always able to send & receive calls & texts at Christmas & New Year, although in the early years not many people had mobile phones and many of those who did were not SMS capable. The most recent time when O2 was not fully available was during the bombings London (it was only areas of London affected) because O2 turned some of their capacity to the emergency services. I believe Vodafone was similarly affected for similar reasons. A lot of the criticism of O2 you see on these forums appears to orginate from you Steven

19-12-2005, 11:18	#20
Vashta Nerada Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Barry, South Wales Posts: 4,382	Im on three & sometimes texts to my mate on t-mobile doesnt get delivered at all its the only network i have this problem.

21-12-2005, 13:33	#21
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by dawson A lot of the criticism of O2 you see on these forums appears to orginate from you Steven I'm just telling it like it is, I have hardly posted in a while about O2, it's other people that post about them. I'm with the best network now with best UK coverage which is vodafone so I won't have any problems at all.

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21-12-2005, 15:21	#22
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I'm with the best network now with best UK coverage which is vodafone so I won't have any problems at all. I thought you were a T-Mobile boy Oh silly me that was last month (and you appear to have been through Virgin in the meantime too - I just can't keep up) Looks like lee18xx is keeping tally though "Lad, you've had more networks than I've had hot dinners"

21-12-2005, 20:43	#23
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by dawson I thought you were a T-Mobile boy Oh silly me that was last month (and you appear to have been through Virgin in the meantime too - I just can't keep up) Looks like lee18xx is keeping tally though "Lad, you've had more networks than I've had hot dinners" I moved from T-Mobile as there was no call bundles at all and i needed a call bundle rather than paying 40p/min to other networks.

21-12-2005, 22:55	#24
Garyo2 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 566	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 If they are on O2 or Orange, you've had it they networks go down so badly at christmas and new year time. What about T-Mobile and Vodafone are they exempt? Though, it is quite plain that your opinion is just that, your opinion. You are not stating facts. All networks suffer problems at certain points of the year such as Christmas or New Year, however the problems are not across the whole of the network, and are usually confined to areas where cell site capacity has been reached. Orange have the largest capacity on their cell sites out of all the networks. O2 had no problems with their SMS server last year either so your comments are missleading. IT will be the case this year, and in 3 years time, that from time to time at busy periods certain services in certain areas are going to not work as well as they could. However this is down to network load. Try opening 50 programs on your computer at the same time and see how it copes. A small cell site can hold around 50 people, the bigger ones such as the ones in the London area can hold around 150 people making call continously. If hundreds upon hundreds of people in the same area try to all use their phone at the same time then their is bound to be problems.

22-12-2005, 12:16	#25
dawson Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by StevenGray16 I moved from T-Mobile as there was no call bundles at all and i needed a call bundle rather than paying 40p/min to other networks. I didn't think x-network would be a problem to you since everyone you knew was on T-mobile http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...2&postcount=19