Can a Nokia N70 on 3 be unlcoked?

gazf · 16-12-2005, 08:28

Im jsut wondering if a nokia n70 that is locked to the 3 network can be unlcoked or not and if not then why is this and will they be able to in the near future?

I am not just talking about remote unlocking by the way, i have no problem in paying for a shop to do it if it can be done.

wavejockglw · 16-12-2005, 09:08

The only people who can unlock the N Series or 6630/80 is the network that supplied it. There are no relaible unlocking solutions available from 3rd parties.

Nokia look to have secured these phones pretty well and after a year there has been no progress re the above. I suppose it was only a matter of time before one of the phone makers developed an unlockable device - those above have proven to be just that!

You'll have to go to 3 UK and ask for a code if you want to use an alternative SIM in your N70 but I suspect that'll be expensive and perhaps not available until the contract period expires. No harm in asking though.

gazf · 17-12-2005, 17:50

well i dnt have 1 yet, just looking to get 1 off ebay and wondering whether i have to get an unlocked one or get any and get it unlocked. Can the gsm version locked to tmobile/vodafone/orange be unlcoked then?

BT@home · 17-12-2005, 18:36

Nope. All S60 from 6630 onwards can not be unlocked.

steve007 · 17-12-2005, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The only people who can unlock the N Series or 6630/80 is the network that supplied it. There are no relaible unlocking solutions available from 3rd parties.

Nokia look to have secured these phones pretty well and after a year there has been no progress re the above. I suppose it was only a matter of time before one of the phone makers developed an unlockable device - those above have proven to be just that!

You'll have to go to 3 UK and ask for a code if you want to use an alternative SIM in your N70 but I suspect that'll be expensive and perhaps not available until the contract period expires. No harm in asking though.

The solution has already been written and phones are being unlocked, so its not a case of Nokia writing this great crypt.....there are other reasons the sw is not on the market.

gazf · 17-12-2005, 19:09

well if i bought this phone locked to orange would i be able to use a regualr orange pay and go sim then?

gazf · 17-12-2005, 19:10

or t mobile? or voda? not fussed so long as its not the extortionate threepay

steve007 · 17-12-2005, 19:27

Yeah....any locked phone will work on prepay or postpay as long as the sim is the same network as its locked to.

I can do Vodafone remotely.... N70....6680 etc

gazf · 17-12-2005, 19:37

oh rite, well i didnt know that could be done
if i get one then can i pm you with the details and get it unlocked? im guessing you wouldnt be able to do an ornage one?

steve007 · 17-12-2005, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazf

oh rite, well i didnt know that could be done
if i get one then can i pm you with the details and get it unlocked? im guessing you wouldnt be able to do an ornage one?

PM me..................

wavejockglw · 17-12-2005, 21:17

Dont part with any money...... If a solution was available it would be known about and well publicised on the Internet.

Its not surprising that Nokia have managed to find a secure solution - Sky TV have been totally secure since 1997.

steve007 · 17-12-2005, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Dont part with any money...... If a solution was available it would be known about and well publicised on the Internet.

Its not surprising that Nokia have managed to find a secure solution - Sky TV have been totally secure since 1997.

You dont know what you are talking about.

The solution exists.

wavejockglw · 18-12-2005, 08:40

OK - If thats true, lets have the URL or a reference to the 'solution'.

Waiting.

steve007 · 18-12-2005, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

OK - If thats true, lets have the URL or a reference to the 'solution'.

Waiting.

Sorry, no.

I've been in this business for 10+ years (1993) and after a while you gain contacts. Dont assume because something isnt all over the internet that it doesnt exist, I've gained alot of contacts since I started.

There are various reasons that the exact details are not public knowledge and the sw hasnt been released.

BT@home · 18-12-2005, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve007

There are various reasons that the exact details are not public knowledge and the sw hasnt been released.

So what are reasons?

.....

Still no proof then. Just lots smoke and secrecy to try to explain why no one can see it.

PS. I can turn water into wine, but I can't you how its done

steve007 · 18-12-2005, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT@home

So what are reasons?

.....

Still no proof then. Just lots smoke and secrecy to try to explain why no one can see it.

PS. I can turn water into wine, but I can't you how its done

I dont care what people think and if I want to give proof I show it because I want to, not because some rookie unlockers source everything from the net and assume if it doesnt start with www... it doesnt exist!!!

wavejockglw · 18-12-2005, 18:08

My thought is that it is almost impossible to keep an unlocking solution or hack a secret. Someone somewhere who has had a successful job done will have made some comment - somewhere!

I can see no record anywhere of Series 60 BB5 users commenting about any SP unlock and until I do I wont believe it can be achieved.

Whoever manages to provide this type of unlock will be able to make a very considerable profit I am quite sure.

steve007 · 18-12-2005, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

I can see no record anywhere of Series 60 BB5 users commenting about any SP unlock and until I do I wont believe it can be achieved.

Whoever manages to provide this type of unlock will be able to make a very considerable profit I am quite sure.

What are you going on about??!! Series 60 and BB5 are two different things.

How are users going to comment on this when its still in the hands of the sw author?! Surely users will only comment once they have had a phone unlocked?! Think!

You talk as if this hasnt happened before. It happened with Sagem, Nokia, Motorola and others. First solution for Nokia took 8 months to appear on public market and I was one of the first reselling it in UK. It happen the same with Ericsson back then as well.

GRIM-REAPER · 18-12-2005, 20:28

BB5 can definately be unlocked. orange unlocked my 6680 3 weeks ago for £20.

i'm just waiting on them coming back to me with the code for my n70

BT@home · 18-12-2005, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIM-REAPER

BB5 can definately be unlocked. orange unlocked my 6680 3 weeks ago for £20.

Read the thread somemore, nobody doubted that the networks couldn't unlocked them. The later discussion was about an unofficial unlock solution.

16-12-2005, 08:28	#1
gazf Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	Can a Nokia N70 on 3 be unlcoked? Im jsut wondering if a nokia n70 that is locked to the 3 network can be unlcoked or not and if not then why is this and will they be able to in the near future? I am not just talking about remote unlocking by the way, i have no problem in paying for a shop to do it if it can be done.

16-12-2005, 09:08	#2
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	The only people who can unlock the N Series or 6630/80 is the network that supplied it. There are no relaible unlocking solutions available from 3rd parties. Nokia look to have secured these phones pretty well and after a year there has been no progress re the above. I suppose it was only a matter of time before one of the phone makers developed an unlockable device - those above have proven to be just that! You'll have to go to 3 UK and ask for a code if you want to use an alternative SIM in your N70 but I suspect that'll be expensive and perhaps not available until the contract period expires. No harm in asking though.

17-12-2005, 17:50	#3
gazf Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	well i dnt have 1 yet, just looking to get 1 off ebay and wondering whether i have to get an unlocked one or get any and get it unlocked. Can the gsm version locked to tmobile/vodafone/orange be unlcoked then?

17-12-2005, 18:36	#4
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Nope. All S60 from 6630 onwards can not be unlocked.

17-12-2005, 18:40	#5
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw The only people who can unlock the N Series or 6630/80 is the network that supplied it. There are no relaible unlocking solutions available from 3rd parties. Nokia look to have secured these phones pretty well and after a year there has been no progress re the above. I suppose it was only a matter of time before one of the phone makers developed an unlockable device - those above have proven to be just that! You'll have to go to 3 UK and ask for a code if you want to use an alternative SIM in your N70 but I suspect that'll be expensive and perhaps not available until the contract period expires. No harm in asking though. The solution has already been written and phones are being unlocked, so its not a case of Nokia writing this great crypt.....there are other reasons the sw is not on the market.

17-12-2005, 19:09	#6
gazf Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	well if i bought this phone locked to orange would i be able to use a regualr orange pay and go sim then?

17-12-2005, 19:10	#7
gazf Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	or t mobile? or voda? not fussed so long as its not the extortionate threepay

17-12-2005, 19:27	#8
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Yeah....any locked phone will work on prepay or postpay as long as the sim is the same network as its locked to. I can do Vodafone remotely.... N70....6680 etc

17-12-2005, 19:37	#9
gazf Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	oh rite, well i didnt know that could be done if i get one then can i pm you with the details and get it unlocked? im guessing you wouldnt be able to do an ornage one?

17-12-2005, 19:45	#10
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Quote: Originally Posted by gazf oh rite, well i didnt know that could be done if i get one then can i pm you with the details and get it unlocked? im guessing you wouldnt be able to do an ornage one? PM me..................

17-12-2005, 21:17	#11
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Dont part with any money...... If a solution was available it would be known about and well publicised on the Internet. Its not surprising that Nokia have managed to find a secure solution - Sky TV have been totally secure since 1997.

17-12-2005, 21:29	#12
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw Dont part with any money...... If a solution was available it would be known about and well publicised on the Internet. Its not surprising that Nokia have managed to find a secure solution - Sky TV have been totally secure since 1997. You dont know what you are talking about. The solution exists.

18-12-2005, 08:40	#13
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	OK - If thats true, lets have the URL or a reference to the 'solution'. Waiting.

18-12-2005, 09:25	#14
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw OK - If thats true, lets have the URL or a reference to the 'solution'. Waiting. Sorry, no. I've been in this business for 10+ years (1993) and after a while you gain contacts. Dont assume because something isnt all over the internet that it doesnt exist, I've gained alot of contacts since I started. There are various reasons that the exact details are not public knowledge and the sw hasnt been released.

18-12-2005, 15:02	#15
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Quote: Originally Posted by steve007 There are various reasons that the exact details are not public knowledge and the sw hasnt been released. So what are reasons? ..... Still no proof then. Just lots smoke and secrecy to try to explain why no one can see it. PS. I can turn water into wine, but I can't you how its done

18-12-2005, 17:21	#16
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Quote: Originally Posted by BT@home So what are reasons? ..... Still no proof then. Just lots smoke and secrecy to try to explain why no one can see it. PS. I can turn water into wine, but I can't you how its done I dont care what people think and if I want to give proof I show it because I want to, not because some rookie unlockers source everything from the net and assume if it doesnt start with www... it doesnt exist!!!

18-12-2005, 18:08	#17
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	My thought is that it is almost impossible to keep an unlocking solution or hack a secret. Someone somewhere who has had a successful job done will have made some comment - somewhere! I can see no record anywhere of Series 60 BB5 users commenting about any SP unlock and until I do I wont believe it can be achieved. Whoever manages to provide this type of unlock will be able to make a very considerable profit I am quite sure.

18-12-2005, 18:59	#18
steve007 Banned User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hereford Posts: 1,681	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw I can see no record anywhere of Series 60 BB5 users commenting about any SP unlock and until I do I wont believe it can be achieved. Whoever manages to provide this type of unlock will be able to make a very considerable profit I am quite sure. What are you going on about??!! Series 60 and BB5 are two different things. How are users going to comment on this when its still in the hands of the sw author?! Surely users will only comment once they have had a phone unlocked?! Think! You talk as if this hasnt happened before. It happened with Sagem, Nokia, Motorola and others. First solution for Nokia took 8 months to appear on public market and I was one of the first reselling it in UK. It happen the same with Ericsson back then as well.

18-12-2005, 20:28	#19
GRIM-REAPER Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14	BB5 can definately be unlocked. orange unlocked my 6680 3 weeks ago for £20. i'm just waiting on them coming back to me with the code for my n70

18-12-2005, 21:50	#20
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Quote: Originally Posted by GRIM-REAPER BB5 can definately be unlocked. orange unlocked my 6680 3 weeks ago for £20. Read the thread somemore, nobody doubted that the networks couldn't unlocked them. The later discussion was about an unofficial unlock solution.

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