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GRussell31
16-12-2005
Hi,

Can a computer DVD drive (that can read Ram disks) read the files from a Ram disks recorded by my Panasonic ES 10?

I know I can use -R disks and finalise them, just wasn't sure about a Ram disks.

Thanks,

-Graham
JBlink
17-12-2005
I have not tried this yet but people have commented on this forum that RAM is the most convenient way to transfer from a DVD recorder to PC, so I believe the answer to be yes. Logic says it should work okay, but sometimes the world of PCs defies logic (like how come a company that makes products with so many flaws can get away with charging extra for new versions to put them right - and makes its CEO Bill Gates the world's richest geek?)
tilmitt
17-12-2005
I have the same dvd recorder and my PC with a Pioneer 109 dvd writer reads RAM discs, you just drag and drop the files on to your PC's Hard drive.
GRussell31
17-12-2005
Sweet thanks guys.

At the moment I am using -r disks, finalising them to get them on my PC.
I think it would be worth my while getting a DVD recorder that can read ram disks, as I use the chase facility with this disks when watching them in my dvd player.

Can you drop the files directly from a ram disk to a -r disk, or the formats different?

Ta,

-Graham
pgnl
17-12-2005
You'd need two rewriters in your PC to be able to do that. I also suspect that in view of the file sizes there may be performance issues - even with the fastest PC available... A hard disk will always have a faster read/write rate than any kind of rewritable disk.

I would suggest always transfer the file to your hard disk to prevent glitches in the video.

Patrick
Worcs..
pgnl
17-12-2005
Forgot the point about the file formats.. I reckon you'd need to use Nero (or something similar) to create a standard format DVD....
GRussell31
17-12-2005
Sorry, I would copy the files to my hard drive first.

I just wasn't sure if ram disks used the same format as -r's. I wasn't sure if I dropped the files from a ram disk into a VideoTs folder if it would work, but it sound like it would.

I would use Nero anyway.

Cheers for you help.

-Graham
NX3
17-12-2005
I have a Pioneer DVR-110BK (not all 110 can read DVD-RAM only the BK I believe). I copy the VRO file to your HD. Use TMPEG to demux the video (m2v) and audio (ac3). Then use TMPEG Author to build a standard DVD onto a DVD-R, RW or + etc.... TMPEG does not re-encode the m2v file unlike Sonic products which take much longer due to the re-encoding.

You can't just drop VRO files in a VideoTS directory as far as I know.
diniel
26-12-2005
I have an E55 and regularly copy from DVD-RAM to my hard drive before burning to DVD-R. I use the E55 to take the adverts out, it is easier/quicker than doing it on the PC.

No need to take your first step: with the cut-down programme on your DVD-RAM, just use TMPGEnc DVD Author to start a new project, use the Add DVD Video button and use your DVD-RAM disc as the source, select the programme you want to use, it will copy it to your hard disc, you can add other programmes as tracks or chapters, make your menu, and then have it author the DVD-R (it takes less than 10 mins, no re-encoding).

Some recordings will not maintain their 4:3 / 16:9 ratios properly, so before burning the authored files to a DVD-R, I use IFoedit to check the .ifo files and change from 4:3 to 16:9 if necessary. Without doing this, sometimes I have had a 16:9 ratio programme restricted to the width of a 4:3 picture with the black bars above/below but my TV would only stretch the 4:3 to be too wide and maintain the bars - very annoying. Altering the .ifo file makes it 16:9 properly.

Just burning a DVD-R now actually, of Hustle series 1 which was on Hallmark just before Christmas
thesealeyboy
29-12-2005
so, are we saying here then, that you can record using a DVD recorder to a DVD-RAM disc, pop the disc into a PC and potentially edit the content and then burn to a DVD-R?
apt58
29-12-2005
yes works perfectly as described above but i keep having problem with tempenc not liking the file because of the 4:3 / 16:9 problem
diniel
29-12-2005
Have you tried mixing two different files/sources on the same track or chapter? I've had trouble with that, sometimes it tells me that the resolutions are different, others that there is no sound etc.

The MPEG files are still created/copied to my hard drive when that happens, so I close the tmpeg software and open it again, sourcing the files from my hard drive - worst case is one mpeg per chapter, I've not had anything fail doing it that way.

Once the DVD is authored though I always check the .ifo file in IfoEdit.exe to be sure it's what I expected - sometimes it gets funky and needs changing.
diniel
29-12-2005
Originally Posted by thesealeyboy:
“so, are we saying here then, that you can record using a DVD recorder to a DVD-RAM disc, pop the disc into a PC and potentially edit the content and then burn to a DVD-R?”

Yes, specifically with the Panasonic models, that is what I do with a lot of stuff, specially things like the one-off ITV dramas that are sometimes pretty good.
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