DS Forums

 
 

Andy "shell shocked"/ because Simon said Shayne had Xfactor?


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 17-12-2005, 21:58
LindyLupin
 
Posts: n/a

Poor Andy, he DID looked shocked and upset while they were showing his highlights. Simon was wrong to say that "there were two performers up there and one had the Xfactor" when he knew he could sway the voting?
  Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 17-12-2005, 22:02
JTW
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 41,094
Obvious is an understatement. Contrived is only one word that comes to mind. Any others folks?
JTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:06
aybrave
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 58
Simon new a 42 year old would only last so long, and he sang mostly oler tunes..BUT......still think Andy was better
aybrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:09
JTW
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 41,094
Originally Posted by aybrave
Simon new a 42 year old would only last so long, and he sang mostly oler tunes..BUT......still think Andy was better
I agree to a point. I.e. Shayne instant success with the teenyboppers, but Andy has longevity.
JTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:11
aybrave
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 58
agree again, just wonder how much the tree judges are in cahoots on performance right?

but most likley andy will get a recording deal

Last edited by aybrave : 17-12-2005 at 22:12. Reason: addition
aybrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:11
lennonsgirl
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 242
I would defo buy Andy's album I thought he was fantastic and im only 24! Much prefered him over Shayne
lennonsgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:14
aybrave
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by lennonsgirl
I would defo buy Andy's album I thought he was fantastic and im only 24! Much prefered him over Shayne
well done, but buy shanes too?
aybrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:14
Candice
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: East London
Posts: 8,441
Originally Posted by aybrave
Simon new a 42 year old would only last so long, and he sang mostly oler tunes..BUT......still think Andy was better
I agree that Andy was better. SC is only interested in instant success but if he is only interested in pleasing the teenies, why have such a wide age range? He's just said that the GBP made the right decision tonight and he has me wondering whether he was including his own act in that comment
Candice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-12-2005, 22:17
aybrave
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Candice
I agree that Andy was better. SC is only interested in instant success but if he is only interested in pleasing the teenies, why have such a wide age range? He's just said that the GBP made the right decision tonight and he has me wondering whether he was including his own act in that comment
i think they are all in on the rights to the winning artiste. I honestly thought journey south are holiday park material, i should know i ve worked in them for 6 years.
aybrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 00:44
ShowbizGosQueen
Banned User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,058
Originally Posted by LindyLupin
Poor Andy, he DID looked shocked and upset while they were showing his highlights. Simon was wrong to say that "there were two performers up there and one had the Xfactor" when he knew he could sway the voting?
Well, it's not the first time the strictly unprofessional Mr Cowell has tried to sway the voting to an artist he considers more palatable and, more importantly, profitable is iti?
ShowbizGosQueen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 00:52
GlasgowBhoy
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by LindyLupin
Poor Andy, he DID looked shocked and upset while they were showing his highlights. Simon was wrong to say that "there were two performers up there and one had the Xfactor" when he knew he could sway the voting?
It was a disgraceful statement to make in the context of his position on the show and confirmed to many sane people that the show was ntohing more than a sham.

Andy wiped the floor with Shayne tonight, Cowell knew it and uttered the statement to compensate for it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 00:55
pianissimo
 
Posts: n/a
Yep I agree with you Linda I thought Simon was out of order saying that Shayne had the X Factor, but I really don't think it swayed the public that much as there was only 1.6% in it anyway and 5 minutes later Andy could have been the winner.

I think they both performed equally as well
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 00:58
JTW
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 41,094
Originally Posted by GlasgowBhoy
It was a disgraceful statement to make in the context of his position on the show and confirmed to many sane people that the show was ntohing more than a sham.

Andy wiped the floor with Shayne tonight, Cowell knew it and uttered the statement to compensate for it.
I'm so glad that you and some others see this.

I'm sick to death of the "I love Shayne" threads to see what was really going on here.
JTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:00
poppyholiday
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by LindyLupin
Poor Andy, he DID looked shocked and upset while they were showing his highlights. Simon was wrong to say that "there were two performers up there and one had the Xfactor" when he knew he could sway the voting?
Is anyone really swayed by Simon's comments??

Don't people make their own minds up?
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:02
ShowbizGosQueen
Banned User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,058
Originally Posted by poppyholiday
Is anyone really swayed by Simon's comments??

Don't people make their own minds up?
You'd think so but when it comes to voting, I do think the judges, especially Simon, have a lot of sway with the public.

Let's face facts - if they have said someone is pretty bad, they're usually in the bottom two - Chico is the exception to the rule
ShowbizGosQueen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:04
GlasgowBhoy
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by JTW
I'm so glad that you and some others see this.

I'm sick to death of the "I love Shayne" threads to see what was really going on here.
The Shayne fans are deluding themselves if they think on tonight's performance he deserved to win. It was 3-0 to Andy tonight.

Cowell knew this full well, and he even shafted his own act to compensate for it.

I remember being hammered on here for suggesting his treatment of the Conways showed him to be a terrible mentor. Tonight proved me right. He shafted 2 of his acts and did so with a smile. All for his already bulging wallet. Instea dof letting the chips fall where they may, he steered them in Dwayne's direction.

The guy is a cynical turd of King Kong proportions.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:06
GlasgowBhoy
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by poppyholiday
Is anyone really swayed by Simon's comments??

Don't people make their own minds up?
A large number of people in the UK are simply sheep. So yes his words are respected and can change the tone of a show. Before he made his "best of the series" comment the crowd were going mental about Andy's performances.

His cynically delivered comments changed the atmosphere of the show, and in doing so did it in lots of people's homes.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:14
poppyholiday
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by GlasgowBhoy
A large number of people in the UK are simply sheep. So yes his words are respected and can change the tone of a show. Before he made his "best of the series" comment the crowd were going mental about Andy's performances.

His cynically delivered comments changed the atmosphere of the show, and in doing so did it in lots of people's homes.
I do agree he shouldn't have said it (I actually didn't hear him say it!)

I know you didn't enjoy Shayne's performance of over the rainbow but many others did ... I thought it was fantastic and feel it was that performance that changed the atmosphere of the show. Its clear from looking on this forum that many other agree with me!

I know many others also agree with you that Andy was better.

Maybe you just need to accept that many people have different taste to you and it doesn't mean they are wrong or 'deluded' ...it just means they enjoy different things
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:15
GlasgowBhoy
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by poppyholiday
I do agree he shouldn't have said it (I actually didn't hear him say it!)

I know you didn't enjoy Shayne's performance of over the rainbow but many others did ... I thought it was fantastic and feel it was that performance that changed the atmosphere of the show. Its clear from looking on this forum that many other agree with me!

I know many others also agree with you that Andy was better.

Maybe you just need to accept that many people have different taste to you and it doesn't mean they are wrong or 'deluded' ...it just means they enjoy different things
Poppy you seem very sweet and balanced, which is nice.

But I have no doubt that Cowell changed the direction of the vote tonight. Not one iota of doubt.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:18
poppyholiday
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by GlasgowBhoy
Poppy you seem very sweet and balanced, which is nice.

But I have no doubt that Cowell changed the direction of the vote tonight. Not one iota of doubt.
Maybe you're right ...I dont know!!!
I cant stand the man (dont hold any of the judges in high regard actually!!) and definitely wouldn't let any of them change my opinion ....maybe some people would
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:19
pianissimo
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by GlasgowBhoy
Poppy you seem very sweet and balanced, which is nice.

But I have no doubt that Cowell changed the direction of the vote tonight. Not one iota of doubt.
Nope!!!!

I thought they were equally as good, but Shayne tipped the scales with SOTW it was unbelievable!!!
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:20
stephen2203
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Ballymena, Co. Antrim
Posts: 708
As a judge, is it not Simon's job to give his opinion on the acts?
stephen2203 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:21
GlasgowBhoy
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by poppyholiday
Maybe you're right ...I dont know!!!
I cant stand the man (dont hold any of the judges in high regard actually!!) and definitely wouldn't let any of them change my opinion ....maybe some people would

The second comment was even worse.

"You have the X Factor!"

Voting still underway at the time!!

Why not just say, you're the winner. It's what he meant. Absolutely disgraceful from him.
  Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:22
JTW
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 41,094
Originally Posted by GlasgowBhoy
The Shayne fans are deluding themselves if they think on tonight's performance he deserved to win. It was 3-0 to Andy tonight.

Cowell knew this full well, and he even shafted his own act to compensate for it.

I remember being hammered on here for suggesting his treatment of the Conways showed him to be a terrible mentor. Tonight proved me right. He shafted 2 of his acts and did so with a smile. All for his already bulging wallet. Instea dof letting the chips fall where they may, he steered them in Dwayne's direction.

The guy is a cynical turd of King Kong proportions.
OMG GlasgowBhuoy I'm so glad I haven't got into too many debates or even actively debated on the XF forum. I'd have been losing my hair by now.

But I damn well know the difference between what I see and hear and what THEY want me to hear.

I've seen to much RTV and to top it, been and heard too much here on DS

I guess that makes me a cynic.
JTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2005, 01:24
GlasgowBhoy
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by JTW
OMG GlasgowBhuoy I'm so glad I haven't got into too many debates or even actively debated on the XF forum. I'd have been losing my hair by now.

But I damn well know the difference between what I see and hear and what THEY want me to hear.

I've seen to much RTV and to top it, been and heard too much here on DS

I guess that makes me a cynic.

So you agreeing or disagreeing!
  Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 18:48.