I disagree, i much prefer Darren & Lilia to any of the couples and thought they did some fantastic routines. Others while technically great gave some rather boring routines

I'm posting all over the shop this morning but I have to say here:

More than anybody this series, Darren made dancing look exciting, sexy and fresh. He threw himself heart and soul into it and he did 4 stunning dances in the final, and topped it all in the freestyle at the end. It was the right result, totally.

I'm ecstatic. Well done Darren. I've a pint of best waiting for you here in Yorkshire lad!!!

Well said Nancy1975

Len also said it all when he said Darren danced like a man Colin was a prissy dancer very good at the modern crap at the latin I could hardly watch him. He and Erin should have done their American smooth which was great nearly anyone on this forum could have danced the comic thing with the dolls. Although I like G R H he was wrong when he said that it showed that Colin could dance on his own could not see feet for the doll.

Zoe and Darren were the ones who held attention when they danced.

G R H, A P,had decided at the start that in their opinion that Colin should win. B T, L G, were for Zoe but L G was also for Darren I think that all the judges should be professional ballroom judges not stage dance arrangers

The best dancer always wins. The rest is just gossip.

Do you know, it's not just dancing that we're judging, it's the quality of the teaching. Out of all the professionals, Lilia had the biggest mountain to climb and she did it really well. The improvements she helped Darren to make have made him a good dancer and his enthusiasm for what he was doing will do wonders for the popularity of dancing in the UK. In that sense, I think the result was worthy.

You have to look at the whole partnership and the journey they have made throughout the series.

But then doesn't that suggest that given the format of the show that a winner who is like Darren, has the overall package?? A great dancer (as it is called Strictly Come Dancing), a great personality (otherwise they wouldn't have the ITT shows, which enables you to get to know the celebs and dancers) and most improved! That is what SCD is about and in that case the RIGHT person won! Not someone who was just a great dancer!

It is like Series 1 - the best overall package one then!

Face it, the right one won! It is just sour grapes otherwise! If u want the best dancer to win u r watching the wrong show!! Go and watch a proper dance competition!!

Nat
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Sadly I think personality won on the night over the dancing, how can someone who scored the highest marks over the series come third when in previous years that person went on to win the final . Yeah Craig and Arlene looked gob smacked as was all the Zoe and Ian supporters that I know. I suppose the real winners are CIN and for that I am very grateful.

Lilia and Darren were awesome, loved everything about them and I am ecstatic they won.

Colin and Erin were great dancers but didn'tmove me in the slightest and they cocked up big time with that final dance it was utter crap.

All the way DARREN AND LILIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree with minihoy. Darren had a more complete package. Strange that some of the people now saying it is all about the best dancer were on previous threads raving about peoples chests, rears, (Anton, and Brendan) sweet personalities (Bill) - not that I have a problem with that if that's what they like - but obviously it is not just about the dancing, there are so many factors which make you like a particular couple or not, or a partcular celebrity. There were three worthy couples in the final, only one could win, and although I am delighted that Darren won (as a teacher I believe this will encourage lots a people to want to learn who previously would never have thought of doing so), I would not have minded if any of them won, and I would have congratulated the winner regardless. Some of the comments on some of the threads are extremely mean-spirited and unnecessary. Can't people just be happy for the winners instead of all the sour grapes!

How do you know that? Do you know that is what people were voting for? No probably not. Plus I doubt you'd be saying that if the one with the best personality also got the best judges scores!!

Someone who scored the highest over the series can come third because the format of the show is that the judges vote counts for only 50%! The format of the show is also not conducive for the best dancer to definitely win, as I have said countless times, this show is not purely about who is the best dancer!!

Goughy had the overall package - a great dancer (just because he wasn't the judges fave - as that, it appears is how they give their scores!), a great personality and the most improved! His winning epitomises what SCD is about!!! And clears it of the sham that was last year!

Nat
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Just to let you know that I'm Darren & Lilia supporter, I voted for them several times and I agree completely that the right couple won.

The point I was making was simply that, eventually, SCD was always likely to have a celeb winner who was arguably not the best dancer...which some would consider controversial.

I don't have a problem with Darren & Lilia winning; I got what I wanted (the three best couples in the final), so I wasn't that fussed about who won.

Darren & Lilia's freestyle dance was fantastic though (just watched it again); I love Colin & Erin to bits, but their freestyle dance was a disaster.

Out of the final three, it didn't really matter who won, as they were all good, and deserved to be there, and didn't get there just on their public popularity (a la Julian Clary and that kid from eastenders a few years ago).
As much as I like him, if James Martin had made it to the final and won, now that would have been the wrong dancer winning solely due to the popular vote.

Please don't bitch about it!!! Just be happy for them! Darren and Lilia 100% deserved it. Other wise they wouldn't have won!

Inner self, I was quoting Darren himself, take the issue up with him if you've got one.

And let me just make myself clear.

I have nothing against Darren/Lilia winning if people thought they danced the best in the most entertaining routines throughout the series.

I don't but that is my personal opinion.

It is the way they went about getting a sympathy vote that I'm taking issue with.

The fact he made out that he was the only one who had not danced before/ a fat lad from Barnsley/ a man's man/
etc. got on my nerves.

I don't think they did that consciously!! If that's the way it came across then blame the editors!

They just did their thing and people fell in love with them!

Bruno's opinion isn't worth toilet paper, he proved that all through the series with his pathetic verbals and rediculous marks, so him shaking his head probably meant he was trying to clear it of the obvious stupidity that lurks inside.

I was very disappointed to see Darren win. Both Zoe and Colin were far superior dancers, not just in the final but also throughout the whole series. I am furious that people voted for Darren just because he is popular. Surely people should have voted for the most talented dancer, not the one they liked the most. I believe that Zoe and Ian deserved to win.

Ian Waite????

As for what u have written - a) Isn't that why we all vote for our chosen couples, because we like them, therefore making them popular?

and:

b) If what u are actually trying to say that we voted for him because of his good personality, I voted for Darren, I did not vote for him solely because of his good personality. I just would like to know what u'd be saying if the best dancer had a good personlaity - if I then chose to vote cos of his personality, that would be ok with you would it cos he is the best dancer??

SCD is not solely about being the best dancer!! How many times do I have to say this!!!! It is not purely a dancing competition!! If it was u would not be allowed to vote!!!!! They would not have ITT, a show that allows u to get to know the celebs personalities!!!!! It would all go on the judges votes!!!!

Although Darren may not have been technically the best, he wasn't a bad dancer by any means, so if the likes of Chris Parker had won,you may have had a point but I bet the majority of those who voted for Darren, liked him cos he had the whole package! Great dancer, great personality, most improved!! It is what SCD is about, and the sooner u lot who want the best dancer to win realise that, the less bother and annoyance u will save yourselves!!!

*and breathe*

Nat
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Well said! Sadly, it all comes down to popularity and because of that Darren won. In no way was he the best dancer. Zoe and Ian and Colin and Erin were both far superior dancers. It infuriates me that Zoe scored 76/80 and got knocked out first. What a complete farce!

Please see my post just above yours!!!

Nat
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Because the high marks awarded were utterly rediculous and most of the public seem to have been able to see through the judges obvious bias. All three finalists were worthy of their place IMHO, and on the night Darren and Lillia performed better than the other two.

Zoe's Samba looked gawky on occasions with her arms and shoulders all over the place and in one or two places, Ian's efforts to stop her going wrong were obvious. I would not have chosen the Samba for Zoe as her final dance.

Colin does dance very, very well indeed. He, Like Zoe, has the physique and suppleness of movement to make them look more accomplished. there is just something "not quite there" for me with Colin, I wouldn't say his dancing leaves me cold, but it just doesn't have it all for me, and I honestly think his performance on the night was acceptable but not outstanding. His rise and fall appears too sharp for one thing, not smooth and controlled probably as a result of his skipping the steps a little. Then he was finished off by that rather odd "Dancing Doll" routine, which for me was the final nail in his coffin.

Darren's Ballroom is much better than his Latin. His Ballroom hold, rise and fall and footwork are all commendable. The Passo is by far Darrens best Latin Dance and that is what they chose for the final. I think he chose the right dances for the final, then when they danced their disco "show Dance" he was excellent. I think all in all, Lillia put together the right package at the right time for Darren and he carried it off brilliantly, putting the most complete package together and again IMHO out performing the others on the night.

I totally disagree that the "wrong" dancers won.

Minihoy & Retired Pre am

Wonderful analysis & summing up, both rational & can't be faulted.

Hello (this is my first post so please be nice).

I have to disagree, Darren and Lilia did brilliantly in all their dances, and I think they should have scored higher for their paso, it made me tingle to watch it. He always seems to put everything into the dance, and entertains as well as dance.

Colin always seemed to be technically good but I never really felt anything about his dance, and as someone already said, his showdance didn't really work.

Zoe seems to have gotten a lot of flak for one thing or another, but she has been good. However, I agree that her Samba was a bit uncontrolled in places, though I was pleased to see that she and Ian have fixed the gap problem.

All in all I really do believe that Darren and Lilia should have won, and I'm glad they did.

[quote=retired pre-am]Because the high marks awarded were utterly rediculous and most of the public seem to have been able to see through the judges obvious bias.

I completely disagree. I think the judges were fair to all the couples, not biased like you claim. Darren may have improved throughout the series, but he should not have won based on his performance. Because he entertained people doesn't mean he was the better dancer!!