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ITS NOT OFFICIAL INFO so don't hold me to this(unless it turns out to be true!
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DW: Series 2 - Last Episode...POSSIBLE SPOILER ?
Shame that with the next episode being a Christmas episode, it sort of prevents them from doing a cliffhanger at the end of a season, as they can't pick up straight after the end of the previous episode, as they seem to want Christmas episodes to be set at Christmas.
They could do something like this, and this is all just speculation by me:
They could do something like this, and this is all just speculation by me:
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I would be very surprised if the Cybermen and Daleks ever meet. We all seem to be expecting a Cyberman story in the middle of the series and then a surprise reappearance by them at the end just because this is what happened with the Daleks in the first series.
I'm sure RTD wouldn't be that predictable.
However, if the Doctor's last word to Rose really is "Run!" then it does kind of suggest we'll be ending on a cliffhanger (which is only to be expected since series three has been confirmed).
I'm sure RTD wouldn't be that predictable.
However, if the Doctor's last word to Rose really is "Run!" then it does kind of suggest we'll be ending on a cliffhanger (which is only to be expected since series three has been confirmed).
Originally Posted by stuart62:
“I would be very surprised if the Cybermen and Daleks ever meet. We all seem to be expecting a Cyberman story in the middle of the series and then a surprise reappearance by them at the end just because this is what happened with the Daleks in the first series.
I'm sure RTD wouldn't be that predictable.
However, if the Doctor's last word to Rose really is "Run!" then it does kind of suggest we'll be ending on a cliffhanger (which is only to be expected since series three has been confirmed).”
“I would be very surprised if the Cybermen and Daleks ever meet. We all seem to be expecting a Cyberman story in the middle of the series and then a surprise reappearance by them at the end just because this is what happened with the Daleks in the first series.
I'm sure RTD wouldn't be that predictable.
However, if the Doctor's last word to Rose really is "Run!" then it does kind of suggest we'll be ending on a cliffhanger (which is only to be expected since series three has been confirmed).”
Perhaps the Cybermen are featuring twice (5 & 6 and then 12 & 13) as they are in some way involved in the storyarc in the same way the Daleks were with the Time War/Bad Wolf theme that ran through the last series. Plus as the budget is already over stretched it would be cost effective to have them reappear later on.
Last edited by Black Guardian : 22-12-2005 at 23:39
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“Perhaps the Cybermen are featuring twice as they are in some way involved in the storyarc in the same way the Daleks were with the Time War/Bad Wolf theme that ran through the last series. Plus as the budget is already over stretched it would be cost effective to have them reappear later on.”
“Perhaps the Cybermen are featuring twice as they are in some way involved in the storyarc in the same way the Daleks were with the Time War/Bad Wolf theme that ran through the last series. Plus as the budget is already over stretched it would be cost effective to have them reappear later on.”
Is it? I hadn't heard that.
The episode descriptions on Outpost Gallifrey claim that episodes 12 and 13 see
Don't know where you read about money already being stretched, everything I've read has gone on about how they've been better with money this year because of what they learnt last year.
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Don't know where you read about money already being stretched, everything I've read has gone on about how they've been better with money this year because of what they learnt last year.
Originally Posted by stuart62:
“Is it? I hadn't heard that.”
“Is it? I hadn't heard that.”
It is just speculation on my part that the Cybermen are featuring twice in the new series and that it might be something to do with the storyarc..as the Daleks were in series one with the Time War.
Stephen Fry's script has been moved to series 3 due to budget constraints..his episode was relying heavily on sfx and as the money will only stretch so far..make of that what you will. The reason was given in the last DWM and reported on OG.
I believe they had the same probs in series one.
The only thing I've heard about the budget is that stephen frys episode has officially been dropped from season 2 (it may appear in S3) as it was not believed the budget could do the script justice. Matthew Graham is now writing episode 11.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The only thing I've heard about the budget is that stephen frys episode has officially been dropped from season 2 (it may appear in S3) as it was not believed the budget could do the script justice. Matthew Graham is now writing episode 11.”
“The only thing I've heard about the budget is that stephen frys episode has officially been dropped from season 2 (it may appear in S3) as it was not believed the budget could do the script justice. Matthew Graham is now writing episode 11.”
Whatever happens in series 2 I am sure we are in for a treat.
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“Whatever happens in series 2 I am sure we are in for a treat.”
“Whatever happens in series 2 I am sure we are in for a treat.
”
True.
The www.amazon.co.uk treatment for 10th doc spin off novel "I am a dalek" is interesting; but it could, on the other hand have zero baring on season 2:
"Equipped with space suits, golf clubs and a flag, the Doctor and Rose are planning to live it up, Apollo mission-style, on the Moon. But the TARDIS has other plans, landing them instead in a village on the south coast of England; a picture-postcard sort of place where nothing much happens. Until now... An archaeological dig has turned up a Roman mosaic, circa AD 70, depicting mythical scenes, grapes - and a Dalek. A few days later a young woman, rushing for work, is knocked over and killed by a bus, then comes back to life. It's not long before all hell breaks loose, and the Doctor and Rose must use all their courage and cunning against an alien enemy - and a not-quite-alien accomplice - who are intent on destroying humanity. Featuring the Doctor and Rose as played by David Tennant and Billie Piper in the hit series from BBC Television." Out may 11th 2006.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“True.
The www.amazon.co.uk treatment for 10th doc spin off novel "I am a dalek" is interesting; but it could, on the other hand have zero baring on season 2:
"Equipped with space suits, golf clubs and a flag, the Doctor and Rose are planning to live it up, Apollo mission-style, on the Moon. But the TARDIS has other plans, landing them instead in a village on the south coast of England; a picture-postcard sort of place where nothing much happens. Until now... An archaeological dig has turned up a Roman mosaic, circa AD 70, depicting mythical scenes, grapes - and a Dalek. A few days later a young woman, rushing for work, is knocked over and killed by a bus, then comes back to life. It's not long before all hell breaks loose, and the Doctor and Rose must use all their courage and cunning against an alien enemy - and a not-quite-alien accomplice - who are intent on destroying humanity. Featuring the Doctor and Rose as played by David Tennant and Billie Piper in the hit series from BBC Television." Out may 11th 2006.”
“True.
The www.amazon.co.uk treatment for 10th doc spin off novel "I am a dalek" is interesting; but it could, on the other hand have zero baring on season 2:
"Equipped with space suits, golf clubs and a flag, the Doctor and Rose are planning to live it up, Apollo mission-style, on the Moon. But the TARDIS has other plans, landing them instead in a village on the south coast of England; a picture-postcard sort of place where nothing much happens. Until now... An archaeological dig has turned up a Roman mosaic, circa AD 70, depicting mythical scenes, grapes - and a Dalek. A few days later a young woman, rushing for work, is knocked over and killed by a bus, then comes back to life. It's not long before all hell breaks loose, and the Doctor and Rose must use all their courage and cunning against an alien enemy - and a not-quite-alien accomplice - who are intent on destroying humanity. Featuring the Doctor and Rose as played by David Tennant and Billie Piper in the hit series from BBC Television." Out may 11th 2006.”
Not sure whether or not the books are considered cannon, but this would pretty much confirm that Rose didn't make it so the Daleks had never existed, she just destroyed the ones that were involved in that particular invasion of Earth.
Originally Posted by ormistonjames:
“Not sure whether or not the books are considered cannon, but this would pretty much confirm that Rose didn't make it so the Daleks had never existed, she just destroyed the ones that were involved in that particular invasion of Earth.”
“Not sure whether or not the books are considered cannon, but this would pretty much confirm that Rose didn't make it so the Daleks had never existed, she just destroyed the ones that were involved in that particular invasion of Earth.”
I thought Rose destroyed the last of the Daleks as they were supposed to be the whole fleet that formed the invasion?
I always wondered whether that was all the Daleks in the fleet at the end of the last season, if the Doctor had already nearly completely wiped them out once, wouldn't it make sense, once there was a lot of them, for them to split up, rather than all remaining in one place.
Did all of the Daleks and Time Lords fight in the Time War, didn't they think what might happen if they lost, or did both sides see it as all or nothing.
Did all of the Daleks and Time Lords fight in the Time War, didn't they think what might happen if they lost, or did both sides see it as all or nothing.
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“I thought Rose destroyed the last of the Daleks as they were supposed to be the whole fleet that formed the invasion?”
“I thought Rose destroyed the last of the Daleks as they were supposed to be the whole fleet that formed the invasion?
”
Yes, I remember they said it was the entire dalek fleet.
I honestly don't think we will see the daleks back in series two - and the idea of a dalek/cyberman war is quite silly, imo.
Unless RTD wants to get rid of the daleks forever.
Originally Posted by DenWatts:
“Yes, I remember they said it was the entire dalek fleet.
I honestly don't think we will see the daleks back in series two - and the idea of a dalek/cyberman war is quite silly, imo.
Unless RTD wants to get rid of the daleks forever.”
“Yes, I remember they said it was the entire dalek fleet.
I honestly don't think we will see the daleks back in series two - and the idea of a dalek/cyberman war is quite silly, imo.
Unless RTD wants to get rid of the daleks forever.
”
Do you think the Daleks and the Cybermen would make compatible allies anyway?
Originally Posted by Black Guardian:
“Do you think the Daleks and the Cybermen would make compatible allies anyway?”
“Do you think the Daleks and the Cybermen would make compatible allies anyway?”
Nah.
And sorry, BG - I meant a Dalek v. Cybermen war - which I think is unlikely, to be honest.
Originally Posted by DenWatts:
“Nah.
And sorry, BG - I meant a Dalek v. Cybermen war - which I think is unlikely, to be honest.”
“Nah.
And sorry, BG - I meant a Dalek v. Cybermen war - which I think is unlikely, to be honest.
”
They both want universal domination and would both want the pleasure of killing the Doctor so I can't see a harmonious 'working relationship'......
Be interesting to see if the rumours circulating amount to anything...
Regarding the Daleks being destroyed...if there are episodes dealing with an alternative earth, then that could confuse issues, presumably?
Originally Posted by Vonbloodbath:
“Regarding the Daleks being destroyed...if there are episodes dealing with an alternative earth, then that could confuse issues, presumably?”
“Regarding the Daleks being destroyed...if there are episodes dealing with an alternative earth, then that could confuse issues, presumably?”
Lol, I don't even want to think about that one, VB.
We already have two alternative timelines for the daleks - one featuring Davros and one without. Any more and I think my brain will explode.
You raised a good point though.
Originally Posted by DenWatts:
“Lol, I don't even want to think about that one, VB.
We already have two alternative timelines for the daleks - one featuring Davros and one without. Any more and I think my brain will explode.
You raised a good point though.”
“Lol, I don't even want to think about that one, VB.
We already have two alternative timelines for the daleks - one featuring Davros and one without. Any more and I think my brain will explode.
You raised a good point though.
”
Falling through time, alternative timelines...whatever next?!
Originally Posted by DenWatts:
“Lol, I don't even want to think about that one, VB.
We already have two alternative timelines for the daleks - one featuring Davros and one without. Any more and I think my brain will explode.
You raised a good point though.”
“Lol, I don't even want to think about that one, VB.
We already have two alternative timelines for the daleks - one featuring Davros and one without. Any more and I think my brain will explode.
You raised a good point though.
”
I know what you mean, my head was fit to burst after considering that for a few moments.
VB
Originally Posted by Vonbloodbath:
“Regarding the Daleks being destroyed...if there are episodes dealing with an alternative earth, then that could confuse issues, presumably?”
“Regarding the Daleks being destroyed...if there are episodes dealing with an alternative earth, then that could confuse issues, presumably?”
It could be like in HHGTTG where if you destroy the Earth another one slips in from an alternative dimension
That's the problem with Temporal Physics, everything ends up possible - and impossible - all at the same time.
One of the results of the Last Great Time War is that it has led to events at other times being changed otherwise half of the last series would have been impossible
