[bayards]

Happy New Year 2006 - hi-def starts this year in a big way - at last!!

Howard

[bayards]

and hey my 10 year old Port is now 11 years old - neat!

H

[mmace]

yeah, but at £500 for the box and an extra £10 a month I don't think there'll be too many early adopters

[Jarrak]

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Originally Posted by mmace

yeah, but at £500 for the box and an extra £10 a month I don't think there'll be too many early adopters

At £200 a box and free HD sub it's too cheap.

My figures have as much accuracy as yours do until SKY officially announce prices

SKY will sell every single SKY+ HD from the first batch, no question about that since there are plenty of people who have HC/AV gear worth thousands and HD hardware would probably be the cheapest component of their setup

[mmace]

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Originally Posted by Jarrak

At £200 a box and free HD sub it's too cheap.

My figures have as much accuracy as yours do until SKY officially announce prices

SKY will sell every single SKY+ HD from the first batch, no question about that since there are plenty of people who have HC/AV gear worth thousands and HD hardware would probably be the cheapest component of their setup

they're not my figures, it's what I'm reading on another Hi-Def forum.

I've just ordered my HDTV at £1,500 and the missus will now not allow me to spend anywhere near £500 on Sky HD as we've just spent a fortune on a wedding and bought a house so for people in the same boat as me there's no chance of Sky HD until they drop the prices a hell of a lot (unless you wanna buy an upgraded Sky+ box and a 32" CRT widescreen TV off me?)

[Jarrak]

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Originally Posted by mmace

they're not my figures, it's what I'm reading on another Hi-Def forum.

I've just ordered my HDTV at £1,500 and the missus will now not allow me to spend anywhere near £500 on Sky HD as we've just spent a fortune on a wedding and bought a house so for people in the same boat as me there's no chance of Sky HD until they drop the prices a hell of a lot (unless you wanna buy an upgraded Sky+ box and a 32" CRT widescreen TV off me?)

Yeah SKY have allowed speculation and rumour to run riot and no doubt it's put off many who may never even consider HD this year having spent money elsewhere.

I'll pass on the SKY+ and CRT, got myself a HD panel last year and well my 4 year old SKY+ keeps rolling along

No question that for the mass market SKY+ HD and HD hardware in general will have to drop in price but we are not talking mass market, the initial supplies will be snapped up by those who have no money issues or consider HD a must have and have made the money avaliable from other areas

[mmace]

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Originally Posted by Jarrak

the initial supplies will be snapped up by those who have no money issues

I can only dream of having no money issues, I think I was 16 the last time I had no money issues!
I suppose an HDTV with a link to my PC will have to do for now (as long as my ISP don't cap me, downloaded a few hundred gig this holiday period of HD stuff!)

[Jarrak]

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Originally Posted by mmace

I can only dream of having no money issues, I think I was 16 the last time I had no money issues!
I suppose an HDTV with a link to my PC will have to do for now (as long as my ISP don't cap me, downloaded a few hundred gig this holiday period of HD stuff!)

Everything is relative.
For arguments sake lets say £500 all in then the majority of the population could put their hands on that amount of cash and even more via credit.

In reality someone spending £1000+ on a TV could be described as not having money issues.
Even people with a decent PC and broadband have no money issues when it comes to that expenditure, they choose where to spend there disposable/entertainment income

[camaj]

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Originally Posted by mmace

they're not my figures, it's what I'm reading on another Hi-Def forum.

First off don't quote them as fact, second if you cite your source or describe it as rumor. When you don't do that people either believe them and spread them or think you're spreading false rumors.

That said it's not as bad as some of the ridiculous speculation posted as fact although the £500 STB price is probably a bit high. I think £300 is probably closer. Even so £500 isn't that much all things considered

[mmace]

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Originally Posted by camaj

First off don't quote them as fact, second if you cite your source or describe it as rumor. When you don't do that people either believe them and spread them or think you're spreading false rumors.

That said it's not as bad as some of the ridiculous speculation posted as fact although the £500 STB price is probably a bit high. I think £300 is probably closer. Even so £500 isn't that much all things considered

£500 is a lot to a lot of people, and all things considered, it is a lot of money for the parts that will be involved

also, I'm not a kid, no need to tell me how to write a post. People can read what they want from what I put, if they think I'm spreading false rumours then that's their problem, if they spread it themselves then that's up to them

[camaj]

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Originally Posted by mmace

£500 is a lot to a lot of people,

That's beside the point! It's not a lot relatively speaking

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also, I'm not a kid, no need to tell me how to write a post.

Likewise!

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People can read what they want from what I put, if they think I'm spreading false rumours then that's their problem, if they spread it themselves then that's up to them

Actually it's everyones problem! Why deliberatly compound problems?

[bayards]

Once Sky One HD is beaming away - I hope that they repeat some of the earlier series shot in HD again - maybe Star Trek Enterprise, series one of Battlestar Galactica, etc etc.

I suppose a lot has to do with whether Sky bought HD copies of US series at the time or will have to re-purchase from US studios?

Howard

[chriswatts]

Well I think it's more like either £399 or £299 for Sky HD+ plus £10 extra sub. Sky's been doing the old extra £100 for the next upgrade in technology, first for Sky+ then for Sky+ 160 so why do you think the leapards going to change it's spots now and have a £200 to £300 price hike?

You've also got to take into account that Sky's now got competition with Telewest/NTL launching their HD with no charge for the box but a similar £10 monthly charge.

[camaj]

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Originally Posted by bayards

I suppose a lot has to do with whether Sky bought HD copies of US series at the time or will have to re-purchase from US studios?

It doesn't really work like that. You're talking about the tapes, which are essentially free but the broadcasting rights cost a lot. They won't have been given HD tapes, just SD.

I imagine the costs are the same whether they show HD versions or not so it would be a case of requesting HD tapes from the distributer if they exist.

I think showing old episodes in HD would be a great idea and pretty cheap, I just hope they don't go too far and skim on newer programmes. Mainstays like ST:TNG and animation aren't available in HD so it'd be stuff that's 8 years old at worst. Angel and Buffy in HD would be sweet

[Digimonster]

Well i just recived an email from Sky, about Sky HD. A simple survey asking you how much you'd be willing to pay for the HD service, options range from £10-19 and upwards. Also asked when you'd be likely to purchase the new Sky HD service, within the first month, first 3 months - 6 months and so on.
It also asked how much you'd be willing to pay for the Sky HD box itself. Several different options on that. £300-399 range is what i plucked for, seeing as the first Sky+ box was around that price range if memory serves me correctly.

[chriswatts]

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Originally Posted by Digimonster

It also asked how much you'd be willing to pay for the Sky HD box itself. Several different options on that. £300-399 range is what i plucked for, seeing as the first Sky+ box was around that price range if memory serves me correctly.

Just out of interest what were the ranges for monthly sub and box cost?

[andybno1]

just out of curiosity here has anyone recieved any feedback from the Sky HD website after registering interest? I have registered 4 times to try and get some info off them and nothing

[Jarrak]

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Originally Posted by andybno1

just out of curiosity here has anyone recieved any feedback from the Sky HD website after registering interest? I have registered 4 times to try and get some info off them and nothing

Had a couple of emails, one for the Robbie concert and a chance to view the EURO1080 Event broadcast at a swanky location and the other was promotion for a AV event where SKY were going to be showing HD, in theory


When they finally release specs/prices then you'll know it.
Half the posts saying it's the best thing since sliced bread and orders have been placed, the rest saying it's a rip off and HD isn't any good anyway

[andybno1]

personally I'm not gonna jump on the HD band wagon straight away as I am looking at it from a point of view of its going to be expensive and the lack of HD channel choice I would probably end up jumpin on board in maybe a yrs time when there will be more channels and most likely be cheaper to buy

[Digimonster]

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Originally Posted by chriswatts

Just out of interest what were the ranges for monthly sub and box cost?

Monthly sub less than £10 to more than £60

And the box cost ranged from under £100 to over £700.

There were other figures, but i can't remember what they were. Those were the low and high end of the pricing choices.

[hxbro]

Box costs :

Less than £100
£100 - £199
£200 - £299 (I went for this)
£300 - £399
£400 - £499
£500 - £599
£600 - £699
£700 or more

Sub costs :

Less than £10
£10 - £19 (I went for this)
£20 - £29
£30 - £39
£40 - £49
£50 - £59
£60 or more