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Old 02-01-2006, 00:35
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What are peoples thoughts on this storyline?

Sally and Kevin are annoying me, considering Rosie is being responsible perhaps a more tentative approach is in order rather than being locked away.

But I also feel its slightly out of character for Sally to approach the situation in this way.

So whos right and whos wrong?
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Old 02-01-2006, 00:38
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They are underage (to be fair to Kevin and Sally) but I still think that Kevin and Sally would go ballistic even if Craig & Rosie were both 16. They're not talking it through with Rosie atall instead they're just kicking off at her and that's not going to help the situation in the long run.
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Old 02-01-2006, 00:43
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Obviously Kev and Sally can't be condoning it but they are obviously pushing her more towards Craig by their actions. Though TBH if it was my 13/14 year old daughter who knows how I'd react. In my opinion teenage sex is a bi issue these days and it needs to be dealt with more responsibly.
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:28
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Originally Posted by Laurat
Obviously Kev and Sally can't be condoning it but they are obviously pushing her more towards Craig by their actions. Though TBH if it was my 13/14 year old daughter who knows how I'd react. In my opinion teenage sex is a bi issue these days and it needs to be dealt with more responsibly.
I agree - they are all bi!
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:36
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Like Kevin said, they should have spoken about it to Rosie months ago.
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:44
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I think its an interesting storyline really, normally teenage sex ends with pregnancy so its good to see them being responsible as teenagers. Rather than the normal quick in and out oppps Im pregnant storyline which teen sex seems to focus on.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:00
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I think Kevin and Sally are being too ott,15 isn't as ridiculously young as they seem to think. I guess its only natural for them to be dissapointed but they should talk to Rosie instead of ranting and raving. I suppose alot of parents would react like that though,It's a good storyline i think.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:08
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Originally Posted by RadioMaxMusic
I agree - they are all bi!
sorry big!
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:11
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I can understand why Sally is going ballistic. She sees Rosie as a child prodigy who can do no wrong. She goes to a posh school and everything and so obviously Sally thinks she should be 'prim and proper', like a young lady should be. It's really pathetic in my opinion but it's definitely in Sally's nature. I think Kevin is just being a dad. Most dads react badly to this sort of thing, especially if its the daughter.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:11
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I feel sure that some on here think that it's all fine and dandy. Others think that Kevin and Sally ar being OTT.

For those who do not think it's NOT fine and dandy but think that they are OTT, what do you think they should do to improve the situation

My solution would be for Keith to return to Sheffield and take Craig with him.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:21
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Their reaction is infuriating and stupid, but totally realistic of some parents. It's believable for Sally to react this way especially, even if it reflects badly on her. Kevin strikes me as more of a person who would take time to talk to Rosie, but I suppose they felt the need to give him some drama as well....

I think parents should come to expect these things and kind of prepare themselves for it...what good is ranting and raving over an issue that isn't even that big. They're old enough to know how things work, they're sensible, they aren't hurting anyone. The most a parent should surely do is be disappointed they didn't wait a year or two maybe, and give them advice and make sure they know what they're doing etc...IMO
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:52
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Originally Posted by Drifter
Their reaction is infuriating and stupid, but totally realistic of some parents. It's believable for Sally to react this way especially, even if it reflects badly on her. Kevin strikes me as more of a person who would take time to talk to Rosie, but I suppose they felt the need to give him some drama as well....

I think parents should come to expect these things and kind of prepare themselves for it...what good is ranting and raving over an issue that isn't even that big. They're old enough to know how things work, they're sensible, they aren't hurting anyone. The most a parent should surely do is be disappointed they didn't wait a year or two maybe, and give them advice and make sure they know what they're doing etc...IMO
I have to totally disagree with you. No responsible parent would want this situation to continue and with them living opposite each other drastic action would be needed.

No responsible parent could condone the situation continuing either.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:59
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Aren't you just going by the law though SULLA? Which I suppose would be fair enough, there has to be a limit somewhere...but it's not like the law is ever likely to be involved, I thought it was only really relevant when ONE (especially the girl) happens to be under-age.

You aren't going to be able to stop them, and by attempting to do so they'll end up hating you. I'd just be happy that they haven't turned to smoking, drinking or getting ASBOs or something, which are far bigger issues.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:59
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Originally Posted by SULLA
I have to totally disagree with you. No responsible parent would want this situation to continue and with them living opposite each other drastic action would be needed.

No responsible parent could condone the situation continuing either.
But it's not like they've behaved irresponsibly is it? They've been careful and it's happening everywhere these days, kids as young as 11 and 12 are even doing it and they're not behaving as responsibly as Craig & Rosie are. It's sad but it's true, I think this storyline is great, yes they've done wrong and Kevin and Sally have a right to be angry but on the other hand it could have been a lot worse if Rosie had been taken advantage of or they hadn't been careful and she ended up with an STD and up the duff like Sarah Platt did.
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Old 02-01-2006, 03:03
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Originally Posted by Pansiks
But it's not like they've behaved irresponsibly is it? They've been careful and it's happening everywhere these days, kids as young as 11 and 12 are even doing it and they're not behaving as responsibly as Craig & Rosie are. It's sad but it's true, I think this storyline is great, yes they've done wrong and Kevin and Sally have a right to be angry but on the other hand it could have been a lot worse if Rosie had been taken advantage of or they hadn't been careful and she ended up with an STD and up the duff like Sarah Platt did.
Commiting a crime is not acting responsibly.
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Old 02-01-2006, 03:08
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Originally Posted by SULLA
Commiting a crime is not acting responsibly.
I'm not condoning it but the whole situation could have been a lot worse, Kevin and Sally need to realise that they've been lucky, other parents have to go through this and the situation can be a lot worse.

An easy solution to solve this problem is lowering the age limit to about 14, afterall that's quite old when you consider the fact you have kids as young as 12 and 13 pushing prams these days
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Old 02-01-2006, 05:12
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Well, i'm Craig and Rosie's age and I think Kevin and Sally should be grateful that Rosie isn't out every Friday getting drunk and doing it behind a skip like a lot of the people in my school.

Rosie is being remarkably responsible compared to them, shagging lads they barely know, getting completely off their heads on alcohol and they aren't certainly aren't using precautions when they do it as well.

Rosie doing it responsibly with her sensible boyfriend of 18 months seems like nothing compared.
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Old 02-01-2006, 07:33
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Originally Posted by Scissor*Sister
Well, i'm Craig and Rosie's age and I think Kevin and Sally should be grateful that Rosie isn't out every Friday getting drunk and doing it behind a skip like a lot of the people in my school.

Rosie is being remarkably responsible compared to them, shagging lads they barely know, getting completely off their heads on alcohol and they aren't certainly aren't using precautions when they do it as well.

Rosie doing it responsibly with her sensible boyfriend of 18 months seems like nothing compared.
I totally agree, so many people behave irresponsibly at that age, I can remember it well
Kevin and Sallys reaction is totally believable tho, I think my parents would have reacted much the same. I also agree with the person who said they would've reacted the same even if Craig and Rosie had been 16. Sally does seem to have a big problem with her 'little girls' growing up. Look at the way she is behaving because Sophie wants a padded bra Again, totally normal IMO.

I could see the story developing with Rosie and Craig running away together if Kevin and Sally continue to keep them apart
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Old 02-01-2006, 08:05
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I have a good few years before I have worry about this thank god. But being a teenager myself (many years ago), I know this will only push them together even more. Although i do not condone underage sex at all, the reality of the matter is that is does happen, and at least they have had the common sense to use protection.
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Old 02-01-2006, 09:20
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I think they are clsoing the channels for any openess there might be between parent and child. It is much better to know what your child is up to even if you don't approve. Then you can have a rational discussion about it all. It's notlike Rosie and Craig only just started going out with each other either, they aren't just doing it for the sake of doing it.

I have always tried the open approach with my daughters, they both managed to restrain themselves longer than I did, one was 17, for nowadays that is a lot older than most. She is still with the same boyfirend too. I think leaving it that bit longer means that they tend to develop an idea of placing a higher value on it all and not just allowing it to happen with whoever happens to be around at the time.

Sally sets such a terrible personal example too, if I was a 15 year old in Rosie's shoes, I would be very tempted to drop heavy hints to Sally about her own behaviour and use it against her.
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:10
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I read a post here the other day about this, saying that Sally was afraid of her girls growing up, cos she only got back with Kevin for the sake of the girls... they grow up and leave home and what is she left with?? I think this is a big part of Sally's reaction, as well as the private school prim and proper thing she has. Kevin is bieng a dad... a man isnt allowed to touch his little girl... my dad was still struggling with this when I married... I couldnt understand it at the time, now I have kids, the eldest is 17, and I see it from the parents side... But I do still remember that the more parents try to control your life as a teenager, the more you want to rebel and dig your heels in..

Rosie and Craig have been together for 18 months, she is not sleeping around. She keeps saying she loves him, so she clearly wants to make love to him rather than just have a quick drunken fumble with whoever is available. They are being very responsible for their ages, and remember all that she has helped Craig through, emotionally, over the last year or so, that mustve matured them both.

In the eyes of the law they are too young, but I feel that life has matured them in a way Sally and Kevin will never understand, due to Craig's family history. They are emotionally older than their physical years, and are being sensible... They have waited a long time, discussed it first, they have used protection, I only wish that my teenage son lost his virginity in such mature and loving way...

With the love and support of thier families, they could grow into a very strong and loving couple... without that, I fear they could become more irresponsible in their desparation to be together. They are at a stage in life where they need understanding and support, not bullied into submission and resentment....

Just my opinion
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:24
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Very thought provokeing responses. I was thinking what I would do in the situation of the parent and I guess I would have 2 concerns, one being pregnancy and the second is sexual health. The wise thing for Sally to do would be to sit down with both Craig and Rosie and treat them as adults in terms of giving them information. At the moment the perception is that sex is bad and dirty, very Victorian.

What did Sally and Kevin think they would end up doing? Play ludo for ever.
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:56
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Well probably the best thing to do if Rosie or Craig were my son/daughter, would be to sit them down give them a good telling off and state the risks of underage sex even ifs its safe sex and maybe use a few scare tactics in the way of sexually transmited diseases. I would not seperate Craig & Rosie as a punishment, I would find another means of punishment that could be just as effective, and I would tell them that relationships without sex can be just as satisifying but I would not encourage them to have underage sex.
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Old 02-01-2006, 12:50
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I think Kevin and Sally's reaction would be pretty typical of most responsible parents in that situation. They are only trying to protect Rosie by keeping her awy from Craig. However this will only make Rosie and Craig more determined to carry on seeing each other.

Its a difficult one.
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Old 02-01-2006, 21:39
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Originally Posted by Pansiks
An easy solution to solve this problem is lowering the age limit to about 14, afterall that's quite old when you consider the fact you have kids as young as 12 and 13 pushing prams these days
Brilliant idea and if we have a problem with burglary or some other crime , we can legalise that at the same time
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