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Old 03-01-2006, 12:01
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tvandfilm/shelleyvision/

and I quote:
''in a week of (mostly excellent) old skool-style EastEnders Christmas episodes''

although he said Nick Cotton is dead, but that's not true

Those who read his coulumn over the past few year have seen nothing but bad reviews, he even once said that EE was going down the Brookside route, so thankfully everything is rosy, like we needed to be told
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:06
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Wonders if the heart-ache will stop here for Sharron ... will she now loose the baby ?
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:10
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Probably not, she will probably give birth to the baby and then the scriptwriters will kill it off. Or she could have twins and they both die. Or even octuplets and then they all die, I wouldn't put it past the morbid scriptwriters.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:23
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Zoe is actually on the run anymore though, she in the clear.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:46
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it was a good x-mas for EE.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:47
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yip.. it must be true of Jim Shelley says so eh?
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:49
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I agree with him about not missing Alfie and Nana but missing Kat and Dennis.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:50
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I don't think I'll let a tabloid newspaper dictate what is good or not for me.
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Old 03-01-2006, 13:03
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Originally Posted by lala
I don't think I'll let a tabloid newspaper dictate what is good or not for me.
Here here!

Why should anyone need confirmation from a newspaper tv critic to prove whether a soap is good or not?
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Old 03-01-2006, 13:11
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I don't know what Jim Shelley was watching, but it can't possibly have been the same episodes I watched. For me Eastenders was the same old depressing and groundless rubbish, full of character changes, ludicrous and hole ridden plots and tenuous links as to how they are going to finish the stories they have started; not to mention the exit of a further four characters, from an already dwindling cast.
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Old 03-01-2006, 13:37
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Originally Posted by Caramel
I don't know what Jim Shelley was watching, but it can't possibly have been the same episodes I watched. For me Eastenders was the same old depressing and groundless rubbish, full of character changes, ludicrous and hole ridden plots and tenuous links as to how they are going to finish the stories they have started; not to mention the exit of a further four characters, from an already dwindling cast.
You better duck and put on your Flack jacket
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Old 03-01-2006, 13:39
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Originally Posted by Safra
Here here!

Why should anyone need confirmation from a newspaper tv critic to prove whether a soap is good or not?
I know.
There's plenty critics on this forum.

-Brodie
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Old 04-01-2006, 12:47
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Originally Posted by Caramel
I don't know what Jim Shelley was watching, but it can't possibly have been the same episodes I watched. For me Eastenders was the same old depressing and groundless rubbish, full of character changes, ludicrous and hole ridden plots and tenuous links as to how they are going to finish the stories they have started; not to mention the exit of a further four characters, from an already dwindling cast.
Seconded. I thought it was absolute rubbish - particularly the Xmas day episode. The teenies can big it up as much as they like (it is, after all, aimed at their age group now) but it is still terrible. Some of the plots appear to have been lifted from one of those teenager's comic photo stories.
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:15
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Jim Shelley didn't like the Stacey/Jean storyline, which IMHO was one of the strongest and most character driven in recent years. That was very much "old-skool" EE.

EE is very "plot" oriented, yet it is at it's best when it is character driven, as exemplified in the "two-hander" episodes.

The plot should serve the characters, not vice versa.
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:17
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I think Sharon might have a boy and call him Dennis! It would be nice if she could have the baby and be happy for once!
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:19
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Originally Posted by Relugus
Jim Shelley didn't like the Stacey/Jean storyline, which IMHO was one of the strongest and most character driven in recent years. That was very much "old-skool" EE.

EE is very "plot" oriented, yet it is at it's best when it is character driven, as exemplified in the "two-hander" episodes.

The plot should serve the characters, not vice versa.

Yes I agree with everything you just said. It seems some of the Corrie fans on this board cannot take the recent success EastEnders has been having.
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:28
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Originally Posted by Relugus
Jim Shelley didn't like the Stacey/Jean storyline, which IMHO was one of the strongest and most character driven in recent years. That was very much "old-skool" EE.

EE is very "plot" oriented, yet it is at it's best when it is character driven, as exemplified in the "two-hander" episodes.

The plot should serve the characters, not vice versa.
Well said Relugus. The only decent story of late has been Stacey and her mum, but it looks like they've given up on any complexity, which may cause headaches to their target audience, and have just used it as a vehicle to bring in another 'teen.'

This story had great potential; maybe there are plans to continue it, but I'm not holding my breath. Stacey visiting her mum, or to hear her mentioned on Christmas Day would have been good continuity, but I 've long given up on Eastenders improving their continuity; the 'hot potato' syndrome which plagues the Eastenders writing team is still rampant.
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:33
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Originally Posted by katyshipp
I think Sharon might have a boy and call him Dennis! It would be nice if she could have the baby and be happy for once!
That seems quite possible (apart from the being happy bit).
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:41
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Originally Posted by Caramel
Stacey visiting her mum, or to hear her mentioned on Christmas Day would have been good continuity, but I 've long given up on Eastenders improving their continuity; the 'hot potato' syndrome which plagues the Eastenders writing team is still rampant.

You don't watch at all do you? Stacey did go to see her mother on xmas day as Charlie took her.

You just admitted you don't follow it so its no wonder your lost off.
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:47
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Originally Posted by ~Carla~
You don't watch at all do you? Stacey did go to see her mother on xmas day as Charlie took her.

You just admitted you don't follow it so its no wonder your lost off.

Yes she did see her mother on Christmas day. Charlie took her to the hospital while Mo sorted out the turkey.

Your right Carla I don't think Caramel watches at all.
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Old 04-01-2006, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Crystal Clear
Yes she did see her mother on Christmas day. Charlie took her to the hospital while Mo sorted out the turkey.

Your right Carla I don't think Caramel watches at all.
I must admit I was very busy on Christmas Day and may have missed a few bits; however, only time will tell for me if it is back on track. I have watched since episode one, but my interest has waned, but I don't feel able, quite, to give up on it completely, but I'm sure there will come a day when I do.
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Old 04-01-2006, 14:45
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Im not really listening to him because what if he just said it was rubbish i wouldnt believe him even if he dosent like it dosent mean its rubbish.
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Old 04-01-2006, 15:05
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You can't even enjoy EastEnders anymore because it makes you a teen? What's that all about then? I'm getting sick of all these statements that EastEnders is a soap aimed at teens. Yes it's likely to have more teen fans than the other two big soaps (which isn't a bad thing atall) but they're likely to have more younger kids watching because they're considered more family soaps so it works both ways in my opinion. There's no HARD evidence that teens make up the bulk of the EastEnders audience or that the programme is aimed at teens atall, how many teens are likely to appreciate the Armistice day episode or the episodes with Stacey and her mother? Very few I'd say!
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Old 04-01-2006, 15:12
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Originally Posted by Pansiks
You can't even enjoy EastEnders anymore because it makes you a teen? What's that all about then? I'm getting sick of all these statements that EastEnders is a soap aimed at teens. Yes it's likely to have more teen fans than the other two big soaps (which isn't a bad thing atall) but they're likely to have more younger kids watching because they're considered more family soaps so it works both ways in my opinion. There's no HARD evidence that teens make up the bulk of the EastEnders audience or that the programme is aimed at teens atall, how many teens are likely to appreciate the Armistice day episode or the episodes with Stacey and her mother? Very few I'd say!
On Des and Mel last week(well it was mel and Bradley Walsh) they had a quiz for soap fans and three people were on it all in their 40s two women and one man andguess what each one said EastEnders was their favourite soap. Bang goes the teen market claim
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