Lol, get excited about Derek Acorah in DW?

Certainly not! It happened when DS went totally screwy around lunchtime. I tried to reply, the page crashed so I typed my reply again and pressed submit.

It didn't seem to go anywhere so I tried it again - just a couple of times.

But where do they start drawing the line as to who is going to appear next? Remember we went down this road in the 80's with cameos from comics and LE folk and it didn't work back then. The Big Brother pastiche worked as it neatly fitted in with the plot but Derek Accorah! Hm.......

I'm almost afraid to respond to this as my submit button went a little crazy earlier today.

It's purely a popular culture reference, isn't it?

Derek Who?

The trouble with topical nods and winks, is that they date so quickly it just succeeds in damaging the content further down the line. I'm against it myself, but then every topical nod and wink in Season 1 just made me cringe in embarrassment.

er........no.

Well considering the effort that Den went into getting the actual words from the video, something about 'these chances are ours',....it looks like somebody has stolen all of the Doctor's remaining regeneration lives.

Now hold that thought a minute.....

The Doctor said in The Christmas Invasion...."I'm not a second chances sort of guy"
Bit of a cryptic clue there possibly.
If The Doctor had no regenerations left then he really wouldn't have any 'second chances' left, and what he said would literally be true...he wouldn't be a 'second chances' sort of guy due to losing all his regeneration lives.

Good to see you...have you taken a look at the debate re:the silver devastation and the Face of Boe?

So do you think The Doctor is going to lose his remaining regenerations and to whom?

But the Gelth were just using gas.
The gas was blue in their story because the gas supply they were using was the gas that we use that burns with a blue light.
There's nothing that says that if they used a different kind of gas then they might appear to be the colour of that particular gas when it burns.

I would agree with you regarding how they can quickly date a story - I think they have to be picked very carefully so as to avoid this.
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Good point and when I get the opportunity I'm actually going to open my series one box-set and watch it!

So wouldn't they be looking to house themselves in a more permanent 'arrangement'?

Not a bad idea, BG.

My thoughts exactly Mr Den!

Perhaps the Face of Boe does has something important to share with The Doctor regarding the silver devastation.

Interesting theory put forward by Alrightmate though think he should share his one that he PM about..that is even more spot on. Spill to the others ol wise one.

I liked AM's idea about Casandra teaming up with the Cybermen (I think it was yours, AM - if not, apologies to the OP.)

I rather liked that idea too as Cassandra would sell her family if it facilitated another face lift!

Not to mention she considers herself the last [pure] human and wouldn't think twice about selling out the rest of humanity, which she considers inferior.

Possibly just my sense of humour then.

i also think that adam could have a big part to play he does hold alot of useful knowledge

I was just pulling your leg!

By the way did Don Warrington provide one of the voices for the Time Lords on the audio adventures?

You can sort of understand why they used a 'catch 'em all' kind of approach in the last series, because the priority was to ensure that the series survived past one series and a level of success was demanded of the show.

But in series 2 you would have thought that now that they have a core amount of fans, they can now concentrate on improvements and stronger stories......they really, really shouldn't be resorting to gimmicks in series 2.
As you say, there reaches a point where you keep trying the same kind of gimmick and it reaches a level of diminishing returns.

And I'm not happy about the show trying to promote The Slitheeen as a major enemy (if that's what they're doing according to another poster in this thread).
I'm just getting a feeling that the PR behind the show is trying to push stuff onto us, in a way which a cheaper, tackier kind of show might do.
Not just with what I just mentioned, but I just get a general sense of some kind of cynical control going on with the marketing of the show, where it gets to the point they will just bullshit us, or tell us what we like instead of letting us make our own minds up about something.

I don't remember enemies such as the Daleks, or the Cybermen originally forced down our throat when they first appeared, and us being told what we like. I thought that it was the viewers response which informed them what we liked.
In fact, I might be wrong here, didn't they have some serious doubts about the Daleks at first?

I have to hold up my hands and say I've never listened to any of the audio adventures.

(That's it - I am now to be outcast from this forum! )

Stick the kettle on, Den - I'll be with you in a minute!

(I notice you've beaten me to 6k BTW!)

I noticed you credited with me with that silver devastation thing...but to be honest I can't remember if it was even me who you're thinking of as I can't remember
I'd have to do a forum search and see if it was me who noticed it, said anything else about it,..or if it was somebody else.

I don't know who is likely to have nicked his regenerations BG, I'd have to wait and see what new info we get, or what new ideas anyone has.
'Nicked' would be the right word too, because if that's what's happened, it's happened already.

Good evening, AM - good to see you back!

I think they have to continue the "catch 'em all" kind of approach due to the wide-ranging audience they target. (I put down some thoughts along those lines in an earlier post.

That said, I think you already know my thoughts on the Slitheen (does anyone know for sure that they are returning in series two?) and I think RTD can afford to be a little edgier.

There was a time (during Pertwee's era) when the Daleks were thrown into a story practically every other week. I'm fond of Daleks but it did smack of laziness on the part of the people in charge.